Hi. Need advice from all sifu on Tucson & Sportage. Tempting on Sportage 2.0D but worried on the maintenance on AWD & 19" donuts replacement cost. Anyone have changed their 19" donuts & whats the damage?

19" wheels definitely gonna cost more but it offers more stability. Given Sportage's 2.0D power + 19" stability, I got a feeling it's gonna be a beast on high way. Tuscon's Diesel specs is FWD only.

As for AWD maintenance...need other sifu to answer this. Regular maintenance like oil changing should be same.

Tucson FWD & 17" rim is the reason i'm considering it as less part to worry & maintain and the replacement cost of 17" tyres will be much cheaper. Would like to know more on the cost of 19" tyres replacement

This post has been edited by francislkh: May 16 2018, 05:41 PM

How much for 17" tyre though? Engine oil is double but the rest is the same?

This post has been edited by Duckies: May 18 2018, 09:15 AM

Wa...maintenance course also increase compared to normal FWD and sedan

That part is okay since the price difference is about 10 cent per litre?

Any tucson diesel owner here? Mind to share your fc?
Do u spin your wheel often since it's only fwd?

How does theSportage compare against the Tucson? Seems to be similar both in price and functions.

Great insights! Never saw it that way.

Killer wheelspin only happen if you purposely drive reckless and on uneven terrain getting the car to lose control.

Normal law abiding drivers and when necessary to avoid obstacles or overtake dangerous sand truck, no wheelspin on FWD SUV and cars.

Unless you like to step full pedal rev the car fist before shifting to D then any FWD sure feel wheelspin. I don't see many FWD Mazda CX5 lost control.

FYI, Landrover has 4WD but known to have bad moose test handling instead. So how do you justify this?

omg...Jap Pro King uncle jay is back, u should have draw an end right here or he will haunt u down with his logic

I was supposed to reply ts on his shortlist until I read your funny statements and replies to @selinix

Already tested the CX5 kawkaw, the shortage can't really beat it's handling whether on FWD or 4WD on demand. Any FWD car or SUV can have wheelspin if you purposely make it happen. When the cx5 is already moving and you floor the pedal to overtake, to avoid unexpected obstacles, etc it can do that without wheelspin.

So many fake news out there and anyone could purposely come up with such story on certain intention.

Back to @Duckies shortlist, if he chose Civic, he doesn't have to worry about resale value or after sales. Honda spent almost rm10 million on spare parts and facilities. Also the best marketing strategist are in Honda.

The sportage, it's just too ugly like China made copycar. Koreans keep throwing discounts like mad, but still can't sell because public lost confidence after the numbers of reliability incidents and worst after sales. A car has poor resale value becoz nobody want to buy 2nd hand. Which explains the high numbers of unsold old stock in the yard

Don't change the subject and twist here and there. TS thread is about his choices of upcoming car. It looks more like you trying to drag irrelevant things to steer the debate away from the shortlisted cars.

I have checked through local reviewers qualities and most of them are lousy with poor knowledge, some infected and some can be infected to write based on request.

Wow, now you drag political party into talk some more. You want to compare CX5 vs Shortage, here's professional review.

Design wise CX5 of course, futuristic with fighter jet air intake style grille. Build quality exterior and interior CX5 won with lots of nice premium soft dash, panels, seats.

Torque, acceleration, NVH, fuel consumption, resale value, long term ownership cost, won by CX5. Handling great and safety wise, needless to say Matsuda always scored well.

Reason why Sportage slashed price to rm110k B-segment range because it failed to take on CRV, CX5 so end up taking on smaller brother HRV. Uh, the CX3 also more expensive and can sell far more than Sportage, aduhai kesian..

So few Sportage sold, automatic spare part shops don't bother to bring in stock. Forte that sold so many also have cases of no spare parts, need to import. Now the current Shortage even worse then for being so rare on the road. Care to explain the numbers of Korean cars being towed to service cemtres and left with no spare parts and super expensive charges? The cost is almost equivalent to overhauling a Japanese 4 cylinder engine. Better i buy CX5, spare parts more expensive than Honda but at least still many.

Forever01jayraptor

Wow, what a heated argument you both have. I've personally test drive both and here's my simple experience.

Kia Sportage 2.0 AWD GT Diesel:

Okay interior but sexy exterior, at least to my preference. Pick up seems sluggish from 0 to 40 kmph but it does great after that. I can hear and feel the pick up sound, it sounds like the car is trying hard to accelerate. The price is great after GST and promotion rebates.

Mazda CX-5 GLS 2.0 Petrol

Superb exterior and interior. Car pick up is good but the road noise is pretty obvious. The car room size is smaller as well. The door also feels filmsy, like material cost cutting but salesman say it's weight cutting

I still can't decide between 2 of them

Additional update: I gave up on Civic after test drive it. Car seating is too low to my liking. I guess that's how sport car is. Also left out Hyundai Tuscon 1.6 Turbo due to it's dry clutch. Also don't really like CRV's exterior and interior although it's spacious and the pick up speed is great

This post has been edited by Duckies: May 20 2018, 09:48 PM

Did a test drive on the sportage this afternoon. for some reason interior feels just ok compared to the cx-5. I mean of course there's the obvious price difference but it suddenly felt more dated than the latter.

Performance wise I was quite happy with the CX-5. Unfortunately, I can't make a comparison as the available test drive unit this afternoon for the sportage is a diesel engine.

I tested the diesel Sportage as well! How did you feel about it? I felt sluggish on the pick up from 0 to 40/60 kmph but it's doing okay after that.

Interior and exterior wise definitely CX-5 is better but the filmsy thin door and the road noise is a major turn off

Price difference for the car is obvious but do also consider the maintenance cost for a diesel car should cost more. According to the salesman, a major service for a petrol Sportage would cost about 800-1000 while diesel would be 1800-2000. Additionally, the diesel Sportage is using 19" wheel so it'll cost more to change also in future

This post has been edited by Duckies: May 20 2018, 09:38 PM

Forever01 can't accept others opinion, you can see his argument with other forumners in your thread earlier. He probably didn't know that moderators and neutral forum need have certified that I am not trolling. Acquitted and a free forumner.

I see, you're looking at diesel sportage. The sluggish you're referring is turbo lag as the turbocharger only kicks in from 1750rpm. Diesel engine only works well with turbocharger drawing in dense air to burn well.

Before you choose Shortage, consider these questions:
- Do you know at least some basic knowledge in removing air intake? If no and you care about removing and replacing battery DIY then sportage is not suitable for you. The photo, you can see the battery is blocked by air intake inlet requiring you to remove air intake first before replace battery. If clumsy mechanic forgot to put back the air intake then debris and particles will sure enter combustion chamber which can be disastrous.
- Do you have 2nd car at home?
- Do you care about after sales service, spare parts cost and availability?
- Do you mind if facing difficulty in selling the sportage in 7, 9 or over 10 years later? Are you ready to face low resale value? Unlike forte, the sportage demand is low.

If you are heavily concern about these, then better you go for CX5 if you're more towards practicality and wanted safe. Yes 19" rims are costly replace and not practical especially when the sportage is not even a performance SUV. Luxury brands like BMW or Merc only fit 19" rim on models with powerful performance version for high speed traction.

Btw, how much does Kia offer you? Similar price as low or high spec CX5 2.0L?

This post has been edited by jayraptor: May 20 2018, 10:40 PM


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Not gonna consider VW and Peugeot. Been hearing a lot of bad news about them

I am pretty okay with turbo cars. I tried Civic and CRV and I kinda like how they work. I am checking on the maintenance cost/tyre/spare part/repairing cost as well because I do not plan to sell my car any time in future, so it's gonna stick with me in the long run. Therefore I need these information factored in when I am buying a car

EDIT: Oh!!! I think there's 3 mode on Kia Sportage Diesel: Eco, Normal and Sport. I believe I was on Eco or Normal mode so that's why the throttle response?

1. No basic knowledge in removing air intake. Most probably I'll send it to service center to do it.
2. No second car at home.
3. I care about after sales service, spare parts cost and availability. Is Kia after sales service that bad? I mean not all service centers are great, even some Honda's service center sucks.
4. I don't mind on the resale value.

Kia Sportage 2.0 AWD Diesel is roughly about 10k cheaper than CX-5 GLS 2.0L FWD.

This post has been edited by Duckies: May 20 2018, 10:53 PM

If I'm in the market for a suv...IL consider the Sportage. From far macam macan. .love the front design

I'm a diesel head so definitely diesel....no more petrol for me

Yea! Personally I like the exterior design! Interior...normal I guess. Nothing to shout out.

I tested the car this afternoon and I felt the sluggish in pick up. As explained by Forever01, it could be the throttle response but I think I am in Eco or Normal or something.

Probably the sluggishness will go away if I switched to Sport mode?