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Proton Suprima S - NVH Improvements, Basic idea for betterment
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nebula87
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 Mar 23 2018, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 22 2018, 02:01 PM) Kl auto price is on high side. For cheaper alternative on autofoam, u may try speed mod. 1 car ~RM400. For doors, price should range from rm700-RM1k, roof ~RM400 and boot too. For floor, i never try b4. Should be more expensive since taking out all chairs & carpet. I am wondering...will the foams causes the car body to be too solid and can't even absorb the collision force?  (Because like our car bumpers mostly are soft and bendable) |
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nebula87
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Mar 23 2018, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 23 2018, 09:13 AM) Do you really think that foam will be harder than steel used for cars? Snake oil la chassis foaming. I dont see Lambo, Porsches, Ferrari using this revolutionary product. if you got the extra cash to splash, dont waste it on foaming, just donate (for karma points!) For sure i will not tempered something that car manufacturer wouldn't do. A video from Bobby Ang in KL Auto, showing the foam in a plastic bottle that became solid hard, no room for bending. And this leads me wondering about the collision force...did someone notice that? |
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nebula87
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Mar 23 2018, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 23 2018, 12:24 PM) Bobby Ang will say anything people ask him to say. He cant really offend car manufacturers and industry players. As he wants to continue getting cars for reviews and products to recommend. Bread and butter le.. I didn't bother about what he says, but in his video, he shows something he found in KL Auto. Comparison of 325ml Sprite bottles filled with and without foam, few inches hollow steels filled with and without foam, Those foamed one makes lesser sound when being thrown onto ground. Back to my question, can someone proof (by scientific view), whether it will affect the collision absorption compare to the not foamed one? |
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nebula87
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Mar 23 2018, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 23 2018, 03:27 PM) can foam of that density (max 30kgs per car) absorb force of min. 900kgs (assuming the lightest of cars) If doesnt work and that is why no one is using this technology. So what if metal makes lesser noise when thrown on the floor? Doesnt mean anything. can foam with tensile strength of a few tenths of Pa be as strong as steel few kPa Lol, I think you misunderstood my intention for asking those questions. I just wanna ask, can someone proof (by scientific view), whether it will affect the collision absorption compare to the not foamed one? Seriously i just want to gain more knowledge, not like I want to proof someone is wrong for doing foaming.  |
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nebula87
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Mar 23 2018, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Mar 23 2018, 03:54 PM) If KL auto is so confident with their product, they should just buy 2 proton iswara and send to crash test.. 1 with foam and 1 without.. cost of doing that isn't expensive and can be return of investment to the company, since it would be better marketing. But nope... they just talk talk talk and expect u to believe them . what a joker company. So it is somewhat a scam?  |
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nebula87
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Mar 23 2018, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Mar 23 2018, 04:49 PM) Chassis foaming is scam. If that is what you want to know. Lol. Anything i said triggered you? Seriously you seems so angry with my comment..  |
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