I purchased 4 years warranty, I think it is about RM400, but I plan to use it long term so I think it is fine.

Thanks for the info. I think paying like 4% for 4 years peace of mind is alright.

Mine was RM 8900 for 11700F with upgrade to the liquid cooling, 4 years warranty, and 32GB RAM

This post has been edited by yaphong: Apr 9 2021, 09:35 PM

I ordered mine on 7th April and it was scheduled to ship on 4th May.
I checked and they just shipped 2 hours ago.
Not one day earlier hahaha.

Returned? You returned your Dell to who?

On what basis? Change of mind?
I didn't know Dell accepts return of used item.

By the way, why you want to return it and get a laptop instead?

Thanks for the info. But do they accept return after you have used it for a few days?

The system is good if you are looking at today's market.

However, coming from a custom build system, I find a lot of limitation with the case, parts selection, heat management, and upgradabiility.

I can't seem to get my sound card work with the Alienware. Plus the 11700F seems to be quite a lot slower than I thought. Maybe I should have gone for 11900K straight for extra 1K but oh well.

My benchmark for Shadow of Tomb Raider at 1080p is only 113 FPS. I don't know it is so low, reviews are averaging around 250 FPS.

Anyway, most likely I will keep the system as it is still a substantial upgrade from my current system plus there is no GPU available now at reasonable price.

Indeed, I tried out on my 4k TV, the FPS isn't too bad.

No, in fact, the GPU is running around 50% load only. Vsync and frame limiter are all off. I suspect it is due to CPU bound, SoTR says my GPU is 0 bound. I was monitoring CPU, the temperatures all look fine at below 70 and usage below 60%. Unfortunately 11700F likes to throttle down to 65W TDP, I tried to mitigate this via XTU TDP adjustment but it didn't seem to help too much.

Now when I ran my SoTR at 4k, it was giving me 83 FPS (compared to around 90 FPS from reviews) and the GPU was maxed at 99% usage and boosted to around 1950 MHz. So it seems fine when going to 4k, so I don't think GPU problem.

The GPU scores around 16,000 in Time Spy and also capable to do up to 90 MH/s while mining. That's why I suspect it could be my CPU.

No, XTU does work to certain degree. I can't save the profile and it only works when I run it at the background. I can tweak the TDP to maintain at say, 175W instead of 65W, and my Cinebench R23 results went to 13,433 from a lowly 10,000. I believe Ryzen 7 5800x is around 15,000.

Yeah I think so, worse case scenario just get a new motherboard and of course, a new casing with better airflow. Maybe if I have the budget, I will upgrade CPU when Zen 4 is out. Then just do them all in one go.

My Shadow of Tomb Raider average FPS raised from 111 to 113

3200 MHz. Even with 175W TDP, which it will get there, the frequency is about 3.7 GHz at 171W TDP.
If you look at my screenshot, my GPU is not stressed at all, the bound is 0 lol

Kind of same story. GTA 5 is about 100 FPS at 1080p. Witcher 3 also around 110 FPS.
These games supposed to go over 200 FPS at 1080p.

Here is a video, even at early full boost, the framerate just seem so low.


This post has been edited by yaphong: May 7 2021, 08:03 PM

I have written to Dell and proposed if they allow me to upgrade to 11900K.
Let's see what they say.

The good thing is that I have Corsair AX1000 which I bought earlier last year for my new build. So PSU isn't a problem.

Can someone enlighten me, so the issue was the Z490 motherboard used by Dell that caused the bottleneck? If I get a new motherboard while using the same 32GB XMP RAM from Dell, will this resolve the issue?

Bro nrw, can you explain a bit more? The memory thing is quite technical, all I understand is that, Dell motherboard is running at Gear 2, which is like 3% to 5% slower than Gear 1. But this doesn't explain why my benchmark is like so far behind and unable to exceed over 110 FPS.

Here is a bit of my own finding after reading post from @nrw.

XMP disabled



My memory read is almost 40k compared to XMP enabled.



And just by disabling the XMP, my Shadow of Tomb Raider FPS increased by 16, that's like a 12% increase.



Seems like some improvement but I am still far away from over 200 FPS that I am supposed to get.
What else is missing?

This post has been edited by yaphong: May 8 2021, 01:07 AM

What do you mean? I thought GPU is running based on the demand, for example, when I playing DotA 2 at 1080p @ 60FPS, the card is only drawing 80W.

I guess it finally make some senses, as my FPS often capped at 110 FPS even though both my CPU and GPU are 50% utilised.

I paid my system for RM8.9k inclusive of 4 years in home warranty. If add another 2 to 3k, that's could to similar price range for a custom build.
Dang, it is a difficult decision to choose

Viewnet's build is around 10k for a 3070 system.

Haha sadly last year I sold my barely used HXi 1000 at a loss. Yeah I find Strix PSU are way too expensive, but this is true to all ASUS components like their casing and cooling stuffs.

I am planning to get a Z590, and was looking for either ASUS Prime-E or ASUS TUF Gaming both around RM1.1k. One advantage for me to get a more decent motherboard is that I will have far more control on what I can do my with PC. I get finally get my Sound BlasterX AE 5 to use and those motherboard have additional 2 more NVME slots (compared to Dell only).

Casing I am thinking about Corsair 500D Airflow for RM650.

Now I need cooler too as I don't think the Alienware one is movable. I can't resist but thinking to get Corsair H150i Pro XT for RM670 for the looks and a bit of blink blink.

And oh ya, I believe I need a Windows 10 license too. That would be around RM300?

In total it would be around RM2.8k to move over but I believe I will get maximum performance of my CPU and GPU plus much better airflow.

Is it? Didn't know about this, anyway if you want K processor then you would have go all the way to 11900K, that's the only K version Alienware is offering now. Rest all F processors.