He's an anchor to ur group. Cut the rope and sail away. He's obviously lacks a brain on tanking. And elite gear w/o doin any 10-25mans? lol. Just laugh at him! =p

Unfortunately for our guild he is one of two warriors amongst a sea of paladins. For some strange reason everybody loves playing pally here. And after a gear inspect, (shock horrors) his idea of epic gear is blue quest rewards...EEEeeek!

The other warrior has respecced to prot and reshuffled his gear accordingly.

Since the warrior i mentioned doesnt look like he is gonna change ever...do you have any tips on how i can groom/train/practise run with this other protection warrior...you know just to get him comfortable with tanking.

Being a healer, one tends to remember good tanks and mediocre tanks. So, least healing required is Prot Tank < Fury < Arms. When I'm in a group with Arms Warrior, I tend to heal a lot more. Believe me, it's a lot more.

Edit:@kidicarus, yes fundementaly they do BUT there are fury tree talents give the warrior some healing if he is critted or using a skill like bloodthirst.

Well, initialy i was about to say what you said to myremi but then i remembered about BloodCraze.

Getting critted with 12k armor in defensive stance is not nearly as bad and as getting critted as a clothie and is easily healed through.

Regenerating 3% of your total health where usualy tanks have more than 10k helps. It might not seem like alot but maybe thats what myremi means.

very eh.  put it this way, the other factor is the players' playstyle. Again, only from what I see. No, not making things up as this was only observations. Reasoning behind the observations, I'm open to what u guys are saying mah. Besides, all conclusions are up for discussion.

Tsk tsk Kidi, chill. Want ice-cream? I know it's a hot day but...  Screaming at people? 

Yah, those days of being Dual Wield Tanking were awesome to say the least, pre-BC. Although I did have an Arms Warrior saying to send in a Caster Pet in for tanking while she dual wield for DPS in a PUG. Was thinking that "Wah! Now that's a lot of expectations from everyone in the group. "  It was a PUG through botanica with all complete strangers.

everything everybody says about arms/prot tanking or fury/prot tanking is bullshit... your idea of tanking is your surivability in when it comes to tanking... the only reason why ur still able to tank in those specs is not because ur good, ITS BECAUSE THE HEALERS ARE EXCEPTIONAL AND THE DPSERS ARE MINIMIZING THEIR DPS!

from my poitn of view as a dpser and a healer (i play both up to gruul, and goin on for mag now)...

DPSer - if my aggro chases yours, RESPEC!!
healer - if i cant heal the spike dmges u take, RESPEC!!

ur hampering the 9 (kara) or 24 (major raids) others full capabilities with your selfish mind set. if you're not full prot, i dont intend to see you in any raids unless we make room for 1 dpsing warrior. that also is just 1, to boost rogue's dps and synergise with other meleers (druids, rogues)... usually we are better off with none

and dont tell me dpsers should watch aggro... all fights are a dps fest right now, either you dps it down in a certain time or u die. watch aggro? no time for that... the only situation i've faced so far where the dpsers have to watch aggro is in gruul where the meleers have to be lower than the OT to not eat hateful strike. a test of measurement for your tps check, make a 3 warlock 2 shadow priest team, and make them push their maximum dps... the top 5 should be them, and the only threat reduction skill to be used is by the priest spamming fade whenever its up...
that group will contribute at least about 50% MINIMUM of your raid dps... and if you cant cater for them then ur in deep trouble.

yeah u can say wear kara epics and respec, but respec to go what raids? farm kara for anotehr 6 months...? congrats on your progression then.

well, at the end of the day, it's still the player's choice on what he wants to do. admitting that one cannot play way is very hard on them. truth hurts. pride gets in the way.

stefanong, status update please. we're curious to know what happened.

xiaosin, everyone dramatic. even kidi and kurei. but different experiences being shared. noticed how if anyone says something not right, all these hardcore players are the first one to response? 

Aren't you?

Sometimes off topic comments helps, sometime not. Sometimes it just helps to diffuse a situation, sometimes to fuel it. You could chose to ignore it you know. Or you could chose how you should be responding to it, in red fury or with blue coolness.

isn't what these boards are for?!!!

As long as the guild has at least 1 protection spec tank or 2 would be better, i couldn't care less how other warriors wanna spec their char. Tell ya the truth, i love having fury warrior / feral drood as my offtank for kharazan. doesnt rly matter if the fury warrior has pts in defiance or not.

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