Legend has it that one day over a century ago, November 1, 1897 to be exact, a group of youngsters age 14 to 17 from the D'Anzeglio High School in Turin, sitting on an uncomfortable bench on a street called Corso Re Umberto, decided to start a sports club with the aim of playing football. The same legend has it that the club was called "Juventus" more or less by chance, and that the name was immediately loved and adopted as a way of life.


The Club, who's first president was Enrico Cafari, changed headquarters often but soon made a name for itself against many more expert teams in town. The players weared pink jerseys. Juventus made their debut in the Italian championship in 1900, wearing this uniform. The black and white one was imported directly from Nottingham in 1903. The team played in Piazza d'Armi. Meanwhile some of the early games were played on a field near the current train station of Porta Susa. This field was soon covered by buildings and Juventus rented a field on the Motovelodromo Umberto I in the Crocetta part of town instead. Juventus played here until 1906. Juventus then moved to the north of the city and the Stadio di Corso Marsiglia. This small stadium was known as “Campo Juventus" in Turin.







Trivia

- The only European club to receive UEFA Plaque for their triumph in winning European Champions Cup/Champions League, Cup Winners Cup & UEFA Cup.
- The club is currently fourth in Europe and seventh in the world with the most international titles won officially recognized by their respective continental football confederation and FIFA
- In 1985, Juventus became the first club in the history of European football to have won all three major UEFA competitions, the European Champion Clubs' Cup, the (now-defunct) UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and the UEFA Cup (first Italian and Southern European side to win the competition).
- After winning the Intercontinental Cup in the same year, Juventus also became the first football team ever—remain the only one at present—to have won all official international competitions.



















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Juventus IN & OUT 2020/2021


In

- Arthur Melo from Barcelona
- Dejan Kulusevski from Parma
- Weston McKennie from Schalke 04
- Alvaro Morata from Atletico Madrid
- Federico Chiesa from Fiorentina

Out

- Miralem Pijanic to Barcelona
- Blaise Matuidi to Inter Miami FC
- Gonzalo Higuain to Inter Miami FC
- Douglas Costa to FC Bayern
- Emre Can to Borussia Dortmund






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http://bianconeri.tripod.com/index.htm
http://www.jfcm.com.my/v3/ (The Official Juve Fan Club Malaysia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juventus
http://www.goal.com/en/teams/italy/3/juventus
http://football-clickers.blogspot.com/2009...01_archive.html
http://www.soccerlens.com
http://www.soccerbible.com/
http://www.skyscrapercity.com
http://footballfashion.org/wordpress

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reporting in glad we finally back on top of the table, hopefully we will win this season again.

friday is the champions league draw, which club do you guys prefer to face in the last 8 ? my choice would be man utd(if they go through) or liverpool.

Real Madrid

i still feels that we kinda have an unfinished business with them, after that demolition in the 2nd half of UCL final due to team implosion lead by those 2 cunts Alves & Bonucci

Bayern would be my last choice due to Juve poor record against em in UCL knockout stage

I would have no problem to face anyone. We will always move forward the hard way. Bring it on any opponent. Forza Juve!!!

Good question dude.

I don't know if I have a preference; whoever we meet, I think we'll be prepared for them.

i just love to face english club as i think they are too overrated by the media, and i would like to avoid bayern and man city as they are in superb form right now.

i would prefer fc bayern munich. would prefer to knock them out by griding a result like how we did vs tottenham

prior to Agnelli era IMO Juve kinda having a bad record against BPL team in UCL

United 1-1 Juve
Juve 2-3 United

Arsenal 3-1 Juve
Juve 1-0 Arsenal

United 2-1 Juve
Juve 0-3 United

Liverpool 2-1 Juve
Juve 0-0 Liverpool

Arsenal 2-0 Juve
Juve 0-0 Arsenal

Chelsea 1-0 Juve
Juve 2-2 Chelsea

but after 2011 iinm we're unbeaten against any of them

Chelsea 3-3 Juve
Juve 3-0 Chelsea

City 1-2 Juve
Juve 1-0 City

Juve 2-2 Spurs
Spurs 1-2 Juve

No man utd for you, and no #pogback reunion for us

no possible Pogba reunion then..

anyway, i'm happy for Montella.

Sevilla usually branded as a "big team who does worst away from home" but after the result they got last night...its safe to say they're literally the darkhorse in UCL quarter final

and congrats to another Serie A representative Roma too. Its been a while since 2 Italian teams made it to UCL qfinal stage

Roma in QF means less money for our UCL

but Atalanta first, they are quite dangerous. hopefully Juve can cope ...

check-in

4pts clear baybehh

Wow, did you guys read this:

https://www.football-italia.net/118508/buff...id-juventus-jet

It’s reported that Gianluigi Buffon and Massimiliano Allegri paid out of their own pockets for a private jet to take Juventus to Davide Astori’s funeral.

The Bianconeri played Tottenham Hotspur in the Champions League last Wednesday, with the Fiorentina captain’s funeral the following day.

A delegation from Juve nonetheless managed to attend the final farewell to Astori, and were greeted with applause and gratitude from the Viola fans, despite the intense rivalry between the teams.

Now La Nazione is reporting that after the Spurs game, Buffon told his teammates in the dressing room that there was a private plane to take them to Florence for the funeral.

The goalkeeper told his teammates that anyone wishing to attend should meet in the hotel lobby at 4.30am, while stating that he understood if people wanted to sleep after such a tough match.

In the event all of the players turned up in the lobby, but there wasn't enough space on the plane for everyone to go.

The newspaper believes that Buffon and Allegri paid out of their own pockets for the 12-seater jet, meeting up with Federico Bernardeschi when the delegation reached Florence.

La Nazione also reports that the police proposed that Juventus enter the Basilica di Santa Croce by a back entrance, but Buffon urged all his teammates to walk around the front to show their solidarity with the people of Florence.

The story hasn't been confirmed, but Buffon did thank the Fiorentina fans for their reaction to the Juventus players' arrival.

JYEAHHH!

Gigi Buffon, what can i say. Captain, leader, hero, gentleman, role-model, brothers, to the team

A class act for sure.

It appears that our opponents will only consist of either RM, BM or Sevilla

correction

in the quarter final stage its a "free for all"

any team can face any team, be it from the same country, or the same group from earlier stage

guys, any idea where i can find juventus car sticker ? been looking for it since forever.

Barcelona vs Roma
Sevilla vs Bayern
Juventus vs Real Madrid
Liverpool vs Man City

Wow!

Time for retribution!!

My early prediction barca,bayern and liverpool will move to semi. Ours are tricky. Madrid will push ucl harder as i dont think they can catch barca in liga. Liverpool somehow they hv the ucl luck since the last time i remembered them.

haha good luck

RM hard 2 pass over

also I smell barca will roast ROMA easily hahahaha

spirit of 2005 will kicked in when klopp fight pep

Nah, a 2 legs tie is forever easier to deal with comparing the grand final. Hopefully our injured players will be back in action by then. With current form of La Joya and Pipita we might get to cruise further

lets face it, with their current form, and their triumph in UCL back to back, any team would be the underdog against Real Madrid (perhaps
maybe the current Barca team) in UCL currently

but as history suggest, deep inside, they (true Real Madrid fans, not the bandwagon jumpers/cristiano fangirls) know, the last team they want to face in
knockout stage, is probably Juve. So lets keep our finger crossed. Both team with a different path in domestic competition (Juve fighting for
Scudetto & Coppa, while Madrid already out of both race), but still, if there's one team that wanted that UCL as bad as Madrid, its Juve

#doitforGigi
#doitforJuventini

This post has been edited by noir7559: Mar 17 2018, 10:55 AM

I've got to agree about the bit where they wouldn't really want to face us in the UCL either, especially at the later stages.

Both teams have a history together, Real edging us by just one win if I'm not mistaken. But save for the 97/98 and 2016/2017 finals, we've also had our fair share of wins against them, for me the most memorable ones being in the semis in 2003, round of 16 in 2008/2009, (that standing ovation for Del Piero at the Bernabeu still gives me the chills), and semis again in 2014/2015.

A one-off game is totally different from a 2 legged tie as I think many will agree, but at the same time it can also be argued that Real came out on top when it really mattered, i.e. the 97/98 and 16/17 finals. I'm not sure if playing at home first for us will be an advantage. We must draw first blood, hold our own, keep a clean sheet and if possible hit them fast with at least a 2-0 score line. Then at the Bernabeu we have the advantage of potentially scoring away goals. Easier said than done of course.

I don't know if we'll have Bernadeschi back in time; we sure could use his creativity, pace and aggressiveness for a tie like this.

97/98, Juve were unlucky. The better team, but losing to Mijatovic offside goal. Still pisses me off to this dat

16/17, Juve the better team in the first half. And then...a horrendous 2nd half. Bad memories

well, for the past season when Juve reached the UCL final, most of the tie has been played first in Turin

vs Dortmund
vs Monaco
vs Real Madrid
vs Barcelona

i think our talisman Dybala & Costa gonna play a very large role to try to breakdown Real defense. Higuain ineffective if he got isolated
Having Berna on the team would help a lot also. We lacked a typical offensive winger the last time against Madrid, now we've 2 of em

the last time Barca beat us in the final, we took em out in quarter final a year later. Now, its a similar situation with Madrid. Lets hope. Forza Juve

97/98 Final, sigh, what can I say.

16/17, meltdown during half-time team talk

As you mentioned some key players to breakdown the Real defense, I really hope we have a full and fresh team to choose from.

Just realised we have Milan before the first leg

well, 2 points dropped instead of a point gain, to put more pressure on Napoli (7pts lead would affect their mental as well)...

missed opportunity..

Really wanted a win but our players must be quite exhausted.

Can't help but feel we could've really stretched our lead.

Hopefully this international break will do good to recharge our batteries.

Of course Napoli had to win hehe

all the top 6 serie a teams won except Juve & Lazio

would made a race for scudetto & race for UCL spot a tid bit interesting for neutrals

anyway, international break time. Gigi got called up for the match vs Argentina & England

to be honest im still traumatized for our UCL lost to RM last season, everythings was superb until the final. 3 finals since i followed juve, and we lost all. still remembered the lost to milan in penalties, then barca then RM. the last time we won was in 1996, im just 10 yrs old at the time and no nothing bout football clubs other the MU. im still waiting for the day i will celebrating us as champion of the champions. will this year be it i dont know, realistically i can only hope but moderately. the pain of losing last season hits me hard.

now the best way i see if we win this tournament is beating RM, then Bayern in semi and then Barca in the final. perfect revenge. i have grudge with these 3 forza Juve.

the bolded part, more like, everything going great for us, until the 2nd half in Cardiff. Juve look the better team in the first 45 minutes, even the pundit tipped that
Juve would score another and win the coveted trophy during the halftime break show.

and yeah, being the Big 3 in the same tournament would be a dream come true...but at this point i don't care who we beat as long as we win the UCL trophy

Alex Sandro now added to the injury list.

The injuries just keep piling up; I hope it's not serious and that we have a full strength team for the rest of the season. We still have Napoli, Inter, Milan, the Coppa Italia final and a few UCL games if we go that far.

add Khedira to that list too. Injured in a match vs Spain last night. Gosh one of the reason i hate the useless international matches in the middle of the season

and speaking about international friendlies, by the way of Italy playing...the 2-0 scoreline seems quite generous to em. 4-0 would've been proper..and then u realized its Messi-less Argentina...
seems like not getting to the World Cup might've been a blessing in disguise for the current 'average' Italian squad. I'd expect this team would AGAIN, bow out of group stages, like they did
in their previous World Cup tournament, if they had qualify for Russia 2018...

Just read that Khedira said it was a precautionary measure and that everything is OK now.

We have Milan this weekend then Real next week. I'm getting quite nervous now.

Bernadeschi definitely will not be back in time.

Also Man U wants to poach Douglas Costa and PSG aiming for Allegri?

you are slightly "lucky" compared to me. I watched Juve since 95. Watched 6 UCL lost 5. Won in 96, lost in 97,98,01,15,17. I wonder if I ever going to see Juve win the UCL again

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Mar 26 2018, 09:44 AM

at least u experiencde we won ucl in 1996 bro, i havent. believe me if i say i'll cried if we won the next time, the question is when is the next time. i do believe in our squad, the quality and and the manager. allegri really shows his quality in leading out team. altho i love conte, but with allegri our European championship is much better. but somehow i dont have that ''feel'' we will win in the near future. i thought it was last season, i believed last year is that year. the journey from beginning till that first half is like a dream. really devastated bro.

yeah i think i will definitely cry of joy too if we win the UCL again. "IF" is the question here

yeap, unlike u guys who way earlier... i'd being Juve supporters back in 1998/99 IIRC...so imagine, the final i'd watch live (2003, 2015, 2017) all ended up losing. The bitterest came in 2017 due to circumstances.

2003 - Nedved yellow card still bemused me..i'd hate McManaman to this day
2015 - unexpected we get into the final, the lost was hurt..but its expected
2017 - all signs pointing toward us winning the first UCL since 1996..but u guys knew the rest...

and yes, the question is not only "if", but "when"...

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2003 still remembered nedved yellow card, really feel stupid to be suspended because of it. it was against madrid right, then final against milan, lost the penalty demmit.
2015 yup, really dont expect we reached the final, but it was my dream final against barca, but their attacking power prove very superior.
2017 just wtf.

to be honest i think we dont have that ''ucl luck" like others. or myb european luck. last season, it was sux to see some fan brag regarding pogba moved to MU, says something like we won ucl but pogba in europa, but end up pogba won the europa, we end up crushing the final. also teams like liverpool, real madrid and once milan, these teams somehow performed in the big matches. for team like bayern n barca, i'll they won with pure strength. well some will argue bout barca with their uefa favor ism.

Any thoughts on Asamoah leaving?

It sounded as though Marotta tried to keep him but he wanted to leave for Inter.

i think we will have problems with our fullbacks left and right come this summer:

- di siglio (DR) reliable in performance unreliable in physical fitness. Gets injured frequently
- lichsteiner (DR) old and is already one foot out the door
- alex sandro (DL) performance has dropped compared to last season. Probably got his head turned by Chelsea, PSG or Man Utd. High chance he is leaving
- asabob (DL) back to his reliable self but unfortunately not willing to sign a new contract. He is as good as gone

Next season:

- di siglio (DR)
- we will need one more right back thats for sure. Either put all the faith in di sigilio being our first choice or get a quality first choice right back. So its either Man Utd reject Matteo Darmian as sub or a quality right back
- alex sandro?? (DL) 50 50 chance of him staying
- leonardo spinnazola (DL) is not first choice material. if alex sandro is gone we need to buy another quality full back but one the left side as well

We look very light on full back options

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9 finals, 7 losses. We're an "unlucky" European team indeed..

out of all the team, he chose intermerda? I'd rather he went to Galatasaray...or anywhere else but there..

and i read Bellerin from Arsenal might be an option for fullbacks next season too. Him & Costa on the right flank..its like we're having both The Flash & Kid Flash on our team

on a side note

Spain dismantling the same team whose dismantled Italy

i doubt Spain would beat Italy 6-1, as bad as Italy currently..their defense are still better than the Argentina, but heck, we would have a one-sided match if Spain were to meet Italy right now

and talking about Italy, just watched the England-Italy match last night...my gosh, Italy's attack, toothless & cringe-worthy. If this same team qualified for Russia 2018,
they would surely bow out of group stage like they did in previous 2 tournament..

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immobile... parolo.. candreva... why are they still in the national setup i do not know. what the point of experience if those experience are shit experience

Immobile is the big fish in a small pond. I would even rank him forth behind Belotti,Balo and even Cutrone

Parolo is like looking at a pondan on the field

Heck, dollarumma is so bad with the ball at his feet and he's not even a great GK. All the hype lolol

MDS is a very solid RB, Spina is not too bad. Honestly I would trade La Joya for SMS. Our MF is too thin and easily getting destroyed.

and then Italy fans(other than Juve fans) keep on pusing for coach to drop Gigi Buffon...when a 40 years old Gigi are better than all the current Italian goalies, even Dollaruma

I'd give him a benefit out the doubt, as he can still improve bcoz of his young age

ya. i rank belotti, balo and cutrone ahead of him too. parolo

trade la joya for SMS? Why not have both if we wish to win the CL we need more world class players and not gain one lose one. like that we forever cannot bridge the gap with the top 3 clubs like real, barca or fc bayern

It'll be almost impossible, bro. We will always sell and buy. But, of coz I hope SMS can come while Dybala is staying

And maybe we can get Pellegrini as well. I'm dreaming a mid trio of Pjanic, SMS and Fabinho

Haha, 1 can dream right? Lolol

Hard fought game. My hollow man with a goal and assist lolol

Bonucci who??? He sure did a heck of a celebration out of his goal lol. Can't blame him after all the whistling though

Now bring on Madrid. #eathalalmadrid

LOL. There's a poll whether juve fans would cheer/jeer that sucker.

I chose the former. This guy didn't deserve any respect. He got all
that was coming for him last night by the way he left the team

And Napoli drawn against Sassuolo. I wonder what excuse Sarri gonna
bring on the table this time..

And yes, can't wait for the tie against Madrid

Some of u might not believe when i'd say this...there's a part of me wished he would score against Juve 2 nights ago(which he did) and then stopped himself from celebrating that goal, like Gotze did against Dortmund a few years ago(but unfortunately, he didn't). Imagined the amount of respect he'll get from Juve fans if he did that.

The rest was history, from now on, as a person, i wished all the best for Bonny and his family, but as a footballer, i hope he never win anything, starting from the upcoming Coppa Italia.

Man, is it me or has Allegri been on the money with his substitutions lately?

First against Tottenham and on Saturday against Milan.

Bringing on Cuadrado was genius, I mean, the impact was almost immediate.

Maybe Pjanic is having a bad run of form lately - can't blame players as everyone goes through highs and lows and Allegri probably realised that and took him off which allowed Khedira to run wild and unleashed the beast within.

I'll be honest though, after Dybala's goal which was a scorcher in itself, we were rather underwhelming and at times I found myself scrolling through instagram during the match . But boy did things change when Cuadrado and Bentacur come on.

This should set us up well for Real. I'm still nervous about the game although the guys over at the juventuz.com forum seem quite confident that we'll get the better of them this time.

well, Allegri has always been underrated ever since he came to Juve

sure, his tactics sometimes made us scratching our heads, but his merit speaks for themselves (2 UCL finals, 3 Scudetto and going to 4th now, 3 Coppa Italia trying to get the 4th now)

Real Madrid has been on fire lately, even with their weaker squad they managed to beat Las Palmas 3-0(which isn't an easy venue in La Liga). But still, i'm finger crossing that we got
probably a good chance to "upset" em since we've always been a better team against Madrid in UCL knockout stage. And Madrid record in Italy was not so good either. I'd expect a close
scoreline, maybe a 2-1 win..

You are right about his merit bro. It really does speak for itself; I mean when he was at Milan, he had a decimated squad and yet they did well in the league, I think not many managers are able to rotate a squad and bring out the best in a player/team with what they have at their disposal. You hear many managers complain about how clubs 'won't give them the players they want' in order to achieve something like the UCL for example. However, Allegri and Juve - I think have found a middle-ground where he is makes the most of what the club can buy in terms of talent.

Tonight is THE night! It looks like it's gonna be another sleepless night for me unless I managed to sleep around 9 or 10pm. Quite curious how we will exact our 'revenge' or perhaps in a more positive tone, redeem ourselves.

haha me too

a midfield of SMS (currently world best young box to box midfielder), pjanic (slick playmaker), fabinho (powerful defensive mid with great technique) will be truly awesome. nice selection

Man, anyone watching? Ronaldo just scored his second against us.

Great, Dybala sent off! Just when we need him most.

Wow, goal by Marcelo.. 3-0 to Real now.

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I don't mean to sound pessimistic guys but I really don't see us coming back from this. Real are just too strong and Ronaldo has a knack for scoring against us. Plus they have 3 away goals. It'll be nuts if we manage to turn it around next week.

This post has been edited by McF7y: Apr 4 2018, 04:33 AM

Wow what a trashing. I think its kinda lucky for me bcoz i'd overslept and missed this match

3-0 at home, which never happened b4 in Juve stadium...i don't think Juve can came back from this..but i'd expect the team to atleast to give some fight in Madrid and kept the scoreline respectable..kinda..

Hate to be negative, not this year again i guess. Miracle can happen, barca make a comeback from 0-4. However we dont have the same quality of players. I mean the wonder players. I wish the day we will hv someone like our beloved captain alex del piero n also nedved. Forza juve.

We were pushing for a goal and Ronaldo score a beauty of an over head kick goal just at the point where we were beginning to make a comeback. Also due to a misunderstanding between Buffon and Chiellini - if Chiellini had let Buffon take the ball, we could have avoided the goal.

I think that kind of broke us - we still don't have the mental strength to come back from that kind of an upset.

A huge disappointment, but true we don't have the players to make Barca's comeback - yet.

I'm kinda wondering what will happen at the end of the season, will Allegri leave or will the club make changes to the players.

At this point, i'd rather we go out with a bang and focus on the scudetto.

Continuing winning the scudetto is not the long term solution but the problem is we aint got the money

I am not faulting Allegri nor Dybala for this horror show. If we can look at the big picture, Dybala is a top talent but he is playing for a defensive team. It does not brings the best out of him

So why is Juve persistent on being a defensive team? Well, I think there are a few factors to it. One, keeping in tradition with the Juve way. Two, Allegri. Now Allegri is one smart cookie. Why? Because he knows that to morph Juve into an attacking team, where is he going to get the money from? Top attacking talents aint cheap nowadays. Heck, even top attacking managers like guardiola or klopp are expensive

So knowing his current situation, Allegri decided to use the defensive core of Buffon + BBC (bazagli, bonucci, chiellini and now bazagli, benatia, chiellini) to form a solid defensive unit instead. This works very well in the Serie A, hence he has won the treble of the treble domestically. However, because BBC is not at maldini's, nesta's or cannavaro's level, depending on them cant win us the big prizes in europe or at the national team level (euro 2012 4 nil defeat). This is our dilemma, our club's problem and it will continue to dog us moving forward unfortunately

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Apr 4 2018, 10:33 AM

man, ronaldo's goal wouldnt happen if chiellini let buffon grab the ball. nevertheless, what a goal by cr7

also, i might add, spanish football have been roasting italian football for the past 10 years

starting with spain's 2008 euro championship win over italy in the quarters, italy national team and club football always loses in finals against spanish teams. sad state of football in italy now. Spain used to be unable to beat even italy's b team

The gap is obvious

We're still far behind from the likes of Madrid, Barca & Bayern

I'm sure all these 3 teams will once again feature in either semi final or the final, with Madrid & Bayern ome foot there already..didn''t think that Roma would do much against Barca either

Its time 4 entire italy 2 rebuild with freshest blood ever like the germans in 2000 who used 2 be dependant on the old folks

Il Principino has issued a rallying cry for the second leg.

Wishful thinking (out of respect to Madrid and the score line) but if we kept a clean sheet and scored 3 goals too, we could bring it to penalties and win perhaps?

Just dreaming la but can't rule out the Old Lady of Turin.

It is the harsh reality of Serie A and of Juve.

Would you say money is a factor too?

Real had their Galacticos period where just their strikers and midfield would've been the same cost as our entire team probably. I mean, in the long run this has an affect on clubs. Skill transfer, winning mentality etc. They may not have the Galacticos now but they started out in that trend and with the money they have, it will follow suit for generations to come. The best of the best will be attracted to the top clubs and will not choose other clubs. Even now, we can't deny Madrid boasts huge talent that we cannot afford.

Success breeds more success and in the case of Madrid, the cream of the crop are there, similar to Barca, Bayern etc.

In Juve's case, and do correct me if I'm wrong, but our transfer guru, while he has a keen eye for great talent at good bargains, I guess this works for Serie A, but for Europe - you need the best of the best to win. I'm not sure our financial standing allows us to spend.

I know there are lots of other factors to be considered such as player fitness, our coach's strategy etc.

Actually what boggles me also is that, Real are friggin third in their league, 4 points off Atletico and 13!!! points off Barca, and we are first in our league. I know that straight up comparisons like this doesn't really work because we aren't talking purely statistics here, football has the human element to it so that is a factor too. But I mean, we had all figured this would be the year to beat Madrid seeing that they aren't top of the league but the result was entirely different.

As the saying goes, it ain't over till it's over and we still have the second leg, although our chances seem slim and the team is probably broken by now, I'm quite sure Allegri will have words to fire up the team and at least put up a fight at the Bernabeu.

you are right about the money part. In the UCL, there will always be the 3 main contenders: real, barca and fc bayern to an extend. Then you have the money clubs man utd, man city, psg. then only it will come to us, chelsea, liverpool and atletico madrid. Man U and PSG might not be a big threat for now but they have the money. Another few round of spending + an appointment of the right manager and they will be a huge threat instantly. Out of PSG, Man U and Man city, City has the highest chance of becoming the next behemoth. They have the money, the talent, the bench and the manager. But winning will still be hard as that 3 clubs still stand in the way

Actually a 3rd place la liga team can whopped our ass shows how strong la liga is and how the mighty serie a has fallen. it used to be a 7th place fiorentina can beat perennial english champs man utd managed by ferguson, those days have long gone now due to stubborness n complacency by the italians

aint over until its over? admittedly, its over. in fact, i can see us losing by an even greater margin over two legs. I would expect us to lose 3-1 or 4-1 in madrid. overall real madrid to go through 6 -1 or 7 -1 on aggregate. This juve team is weaker than last season's, we have been playing like crap and cowards for the entire season now

As much as it hurts, it's the truth. I'm in denial I guess. Still hoping for a miraculous come back.

Quite hard now to get fired up for the remainder of the season and next week's second leg.

i wouldn't argue with both u guys points, as the matter of fact, i'd agree with both.

McF7y with a more positive thinking, while Jusstatic with more realist approach

Me? i'm in the middle. I like to think that Juve are 99.99% out...but don't rule out the 00.01% chance. Who knows
Madrid might shutdown unexpectedly next week and Juve pounce, but i'm okay with the fact that Juve already out of UCL.
Just hoping that we could play to a more respectable aggregate scoreline instead of getting 6-0/7-0/7-1 on aggregate

as for the club tier, and which league is better. I think if Juve playing in La Liga we could fight in the 3rd or 4th place
between Atletico, while i think we're probably a bit better than let say, Valencia or Sevilla...Barca & Real are no doubt way ahead of us

with the result last night, Liverpool with a 3-0 lead against City might be an "outsider" against the "Big 3" of Europe

i agree with you that if we are in laliga, we will most probably be fighting for 3rd or 4th along with atletico madrid. some time ppl asked me why i am so realistic n have little faith, well, relegation to serie b and 5 UCL final defeats can do that to you

Was very reluctant to write in here. Few things came to my mind after the game (more like resurface). I didn't read any of your comments tho

#allegriout - not because of this game but as a whole.

Why the hell was Barzagli playing instead of Rugani??? My grandmother can mark CR7 better than him.

4231 = sure lose against RM. they're having Casemiro, Modric and Kross and yet we are playing with double pivot who can't even pass out from our final 3rd

Let Costa plays as a LW ffs! Fede is better as an inverted RW becos of diff skill set and gameplay. I know Cuads might not be 100% fit but at least he might have done something as Marcelo was high up our right side

Matuidi - Pjanic - Kedhira/Marchisio for return leg or else it's another 3-0. Let Pjanic advance further up field. He's no Pirlo and he is not a regista

Oh, please BENCH Buffon and let Woj starts

Just saw rumors that allegri has announced he's walking by the end of the season (I wouldn't mind that). Ancelotti's name pop out. I wouldn't mind him but a surprise candidate such as Inzaghi makes me more excited

Let's trade Dybala with Isco included!

This post has been edited by cyapd: Apr 6 2018, 03:05 PM

i'm sensing another hat-trick for Pau10

he'll not feature against Madrid this coming midweek, so why not go all out against this Benevento side

lol. again...poor marking to concede another soft goal...

We currently need that hat-trick and then some to secure a win.