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niakulah
post Jun 2 2020, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 2 2020, 04:46 PM)
.. so many pieces. to me i just slap 2 layers and be done with it lol

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a gb for tx springs and switch films organized by quovadis123 will be live at mymkb fb page, https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalaysiaMec...75975885971968/

the good stuff to note in this round is the brand new tx 67g springs. (usually their springs are with incremental of 5g, e.g., 45g, 50g, 55g, 60g, 65g, 70g, 75g, 80g, 85g, and 90g)
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Cannot la boss. Come look at my case.
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Hmmm...I don't need more springs....or do I?
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post Jun 2 2020, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 2 2020, 06:45 PM)
i wish its not cmco so i can directly test urs.  ranting.gif

mostly using cherry reds(which i think is 45g?) and cherry blacks(80g) now.
last i heard, cherry and tx spring measure their springs differently, so i have no clue.

maybe its either 65g or 67g for me.
how is 70g for u?
i think u using this all for linears, and after so long using only linears(lazy to korek keluar kibod from shelf), im quite attract to linear only now too.
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67g is a nice weight. My spring swap I did recently for my Cherry RGB browns was 67g. Not TX though, generic China springs.
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Buy first think later right? Hahaha
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post Jun 2 2020, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jun 2 2020, 09:32 PM)
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Stock Cherry red is already a very light switch. Maybe you are bottoming out too hard and find the impact too jarring.

Maybe you can try some o rings under the keycaps?
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post Jun 2 2020, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jun 2 2020, 09:59 PM)
Maybe im too excited when gaming, (thought press harder will run/drive faster  whistling.gif ) , but I most probably im too use to low profile membrane switch.

Yeah been thinking to try O rings under the keycaps and hope it will give a better feel. May I know for O rings, if there is a difference is quality? I check lazada is around rm 50++ per pack
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Just try the cheap ones first? RM10 and local stock.

https://shopee.com.my/product/181597743/773...3854?smtt=0.0.9
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post Jun 3 2020, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 3 2020, 03:53 PM)
base on all the kibods i have, i like my gateron blacks the most. smoothness aside coz its optical, the weight is pleasing. but i never tried yellow which most ppl who like heavier switches, like oso.

so 65g-70g is ok for me i guess.
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60g, 65g, 67g, 70g, 75g. 1 pack each. Campur shipping baru RM178. Bereh boss.
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post Jun 4 2020, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 4 2020, 01:34 AM)
now u really make me wanna pejam mata and buy the tx springs.

bye bye money for switches  bye.gif
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Aiyo..... same la

QUOTE(horns @ Jun 4 2020, 01:01 AM)
hahaha this current build is my first build with tx springs. it really does not disappoint. (.. and i finally understand the true values of these branded custom springs)
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This statement very poisonous.
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post Jun 4 2020, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 4 2020, 09:48 AM)
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Very helpful. Thanks. Just that that is just more poison. Lol.

Good to know about different springs in stock switches. I was surprised by this recently as well. My first MKB(Cherry brown), when I lubed them, had all the same dull gray springs like the colour of pipes.

The recent MKB (Cherry RGB brown) that I lubed and spring swapped had 2 different springs. Slightly different colour and slightly different length.
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post Jun 5 2020, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Lybrary @ Jun 5 2020, 05:16 PM)
I joined in on the GB for the TX springs for some 67g springs to put into gat yellows and also got some Krytox 105 to lube them with, just wondering how much oil is recommended to bag lube ~87 springs
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2ml is more than enough.
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post Jun 6 2020, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Jun 5 2020, 11:29 PM)
hmm...is there any decently priced switch with transparent btm housing with decent contact leaf? I was testing out aliaz from kbdfans recently and the quality was superb, as well as the transparent case makes my backlight way nicer  biggrin.gif
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Aliaz looks great but sound is lacking. Last week I just ordered 30pcs of Outemu Sky, which has a green nylon bottom with SMD cutout. And also 30 pcs of transparent polycarbonate Outemu top cases. Hoping to get best of both worlds.

Will replace my 80g Aliaz I currently have on my XD24 cospad and see.
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post Jun 7 2020, 02:33 PM

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I'm bored and started randomly browsing MKB related Taobao stores and viewing all their items. Too late I found switch films (stickers actually) on Taobao.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d....id=520482469888

And I remember someone asking about prebuilts with Holy Pandas? If I understand correctly, you can top up a bit and get imitation Holy Pandas on this hot swap full size board.
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d....id=596015725633

QUOTE(horns @ Jun 6 2020, 03:06 PM)
right, aliaz is a silent tactile. its sound is muted by silencing sliders significantly. you can just replace the sliders with normal ones to restore the sound.

also, there are tactile users that have some tactile switch formulas that are worth trying out at mymkb.
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Yes I'm aware. But after having a few boards only I realised I like the thock sound of Cherry nylon black bottoms. Which led me to ask about black nylon bottoms with SMD cutouts recently.


QUOTE(horns @ Jun 6 2020, 08:04 PM)
these were stuck at gdex for quite some time. (their online tracking is down too)

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Not really excited about anything smaller than 75%, but happy for you anyway. Looks like some high end stuff.
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post Jun 12 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 1 2020, 04:01 PM)
have those switch films arrived? would like to know your opinions on the mods
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Just an update. TX films are in Malaysia, so I should get them any day now. Aliexpress stickers still in transit somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle.

But I 'assembled' my board anyway without soldering. Whoa! Very nice sound. Very close to the thock I'm looking for. Kinda like https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvSuMLM3grY except mine is slightly higher pitched.

Here it is on my lap. Crotch portion has been cropped out so everyone can keep their breakfast.
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So since it was not soldered, I tried it without the foam between plate and PCB. My god the sound is so harsh in comparison! I don't remember if the stock board sounded like that, it's been like 2 months since I desoldered this board and embarked on my mod journey.

The foam in the bottom case on the other hand....almost no difference with or without it. It's still not finished though. I still have 5-7 pieces to cut out.

Edit: forgot to add, my 'perfect' sounding stabs now sound bad to me. I guess since the foam cut out most other sound, it is now noticeable. It was already factory lubed. Will try to relube and see. Or maybe I will hunt around for genuine Cherry plate mount stabs. So far I can only find them in stock at Zeal.

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post Jun 12 2020, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 12 2020, 11:18 AM)
finally lol

now you know how crappy it is at stock configurations. with love and care, the sound and feel have changed to the much better ones smile.gif that's why mods must be done to get most of the real potentials out from any stock board.

correct, foam in the bottom case helps only a little, if you compared to mods like switch lubing and plate foam. to be fair, these effects are stacked so we include it also.

as for stabs, 2u should be ok, while the one for space bar is usually causing issues. 90% of the times, they can be fixed by clipping and lubing accordingly. you should check if the wire can lay flat on a flat surface.

for genuine cherry plate-mount stabs, i'm not sure. it might need to dig a bit at taobao/aliexpress. (i believe they have it but not sure which shops are selling it)
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Yeah they are being sold on Taobao/Aliexpress. But no one has stock. You'd go to the listing and select the options and see OEM and Cherry but Cherry is greyed out.

At this point, I'm going to complete the foam for my bottom case just for bragging rights. My prebuilt is fully pimped out yo!
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post Jun 12 2020, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 12 2020, 05:16 PM)
well since i dont do any others, it does makes a diff to me compare to stock. but thanks for the clarification.
as said to u, still finding my kerajinan to start major modding.
this is harder to find compare to finding parts. lul  whistling.gif
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Online shopping is fun...but don't just leave them in their boxes ya. Lol
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post Jun 12 2020, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 12 2020, 05:35 PM)
hahaha. that's what im doing now.
buy buy, leave aside.

now wanting to buy a solder station, but no stock.
after buying that, ill start the journey of modding.
i have all the small2 parts oledy. just need the major part to desolder my kibod.

anyway, what solder iron u use to desolder ur board?
is it hard to desolder the factory solder?
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I'm using a Hakko Presto with chisel tip plus a cheap desoldering iron. If I didn't already have the Hakko, I'd probably go with a T12 type iron below. Based on the product review on Lazada, I believe one of the regulars here already bought it but he found some issues with the housing?

QUOTE(niakulah @ Feb 20 2020, 05:36 PM)
KBDFans have not resumed shipping yet, on Discord they said 2 weeks from 11/2/2020, so I have some time to decide on soldering equipment.

Here comes a new contender:
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ksger-t1....4d5d49fbOAY6aR

Using the supposedly vastly superior T12 tips which are directly heated instead of using a ceramic heating element. With a good review as well:
https://www.rchelicopterfun.com/t12-soldering-station.html

Decisions decisions.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 1 2020, 02:30 PM)
Mini review of this desoldering iron.
https://shopee.com.my/product/40205456/1568468273?smtt=0.0.9
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It works! It really does. It doesn't really get hot enough to melt lead free solder, but there are ways around that:
1. Melt/reflow the solder joint with a normal soldering iron, add some leaded solder with flux to the joint.
2. Use the desoldering iron, it should be able to melt the joint now.
3. Suck!

Once I established my technique, I had about 12 switches left to do in the numpad, so 24 pins. All but 3 I cleaned out with a single suck. Just under 90% success rate. The other 3 I just added more solder and sucked it again.
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My harvest this morning.
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So happy with this very cheap tool!
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post Jun 12 2020, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 12 2020, 06:58 PM)
another new info for me.

any diff the t12 type iron compare to old one like those 936 soldering stations?

i am actually looking at one specific kasada936. cost only rm70 on shopee without shipping.
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Quick heat up time. T12 is also a Hakko design. Used in the 951 which IINM is the successor to the 936.
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post Jun 12 2020, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(taf89 @ Jun 12 2020, 07:37 PM)
the plate is just like hanging/held by switches.
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Generally that is how it works for most case types. Is there an issue that you are trying to solve?
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post Jun 13 2020, 05:51 PM

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Bottom foam done, finally! This is as far as I'm willing to go.
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And I think I took it pretty damn far. 52 individual pieces.
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So for keeb science, I tested the sound with and without the bottom foam. For the test I removed the foam between PCB and plate.

The sound is nearly the same. Minor improvement only at certain locations, notably the navigation cluster.

Well at least I can say that doing it was not an entire waste of time.

Oh and in case you say that tuning a keyboard is a waste of time in the first place; shoo, this thread is not for you. Lol.

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