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post Mar 6 2022, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ Mar 6 2022, 09:05 PM)
Did they change their stance since this news?

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No. That is old 2018 comment lah. User also lari liao.
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post Mar 7 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 7 2022, 10:04 AM)
Lets say once you are retired, no more income. Not doing any investment etc. Would you still continue putting money in EPF via Self Contribution? Its either FD or EPF.
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Depends on the situation. If the tier dividend shit comes to fruitation, No. If it's still like current, then depends on what you need.

Say if you want RM5k/mth, then you need 60k a year. Assuming 5%, you need RM 1.2mil to generate this. So u top up till this figure lah.

Top up sikit get Fellali... laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2022, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 7 2022, 10:27 AM)
Yeah if tiered then dont want la haha...
Actually what I am thinking is I have got FDs and right now they aint paying much. I want to take out and put in EPF as much as possible.
If tiered dividends comes along then ma take out lor if FD rates is better than Tiered

Reason - EPF safer and more interest compared to FD
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Yes, this is a good move, many people here are doing, including me. biggrin.gif

Especially if you are near 55, it's a no brainer move rather than having money in FD. For people above 50, they can sapu all Acc 2 if needed. Just keep topping up until 55, then tak suka, can take out money as much as you like.

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post Mar 7 2022, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Mar 7 2022, 02:25 PM)
Why mods sus good content provider
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 7 2022, 06:32 PM)
Sei sohai 7 million poorfags...even if give them another 2% extra, will it save them? No! This is because the gov has failed the people by not creating enough high value jobs and upskilling people to these higher paid jobs.

Instead, we now all reversing with majority opting to become food pandan riders. How is that going to help in the long rui?

Matha farkers useless oren gov!

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post Mar 7 2022, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Mar 7 2022, 08:36 PM)
Among the proposals was having the withrawals as "interest free loans." So, dividends is paid on the withdrawn money too. LoL.

This is cooking the ledger... interest paid to non-existing money.

Since there is no proposed deadline when the withdrawn 'loans' must be returned back to EPF, we should be more adventurous and give everyone future "imaginary loans".

Give everyone an "imaginary loan" of 200k for their future earnings. So, 200k added into each account, but the 200k is non-existent.

This would be better than the initial proposal, because more dividends will be paid on the non-existing 200k than on the non-existing 10k that have been withdrawn.

Brilliant!
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I withdraw all, put in FD and get interest + dividend from both sides...Profit!
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post Mar 8 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 8 2022, 01:23 PM)
Yes better leave as much as u can in epf n use other money with low returns unless u have better investment but at 65 i doubt there is any others with epf's risk factor.
After wothdrawal then want to put it back it will be limited to 60k/year.
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Good idea...i will use most of my free cash first until no more cash then only touch EPF dividends.
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post Mar 8 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Mar 8 2022, 11:57 AM)
Offsprings will be grateful.
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post Mar 8 2022, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 8 2022, 03:27 PM)
Recently I read a comment in fb at kwsp about this 50 year old that died of Covid. The step dotter whom he had named as beneficiary had problem getting the money….here is the rest of the comment. How can one person have two epf acct? Doesn’t makes sense but had me worried.
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I think this is abnormal case. Just to share from personal experience, normal account with nominee, it's very easy as long got nominations. No need surat kuasa or anything.
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post Mar 8 2022, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 8 2022, 04:25 PM)
yeah i think so too.

Okay here is another one - lets say a couple with no children. Husband left 100% to wife but both died. According to EPF's FAQ, it says "If the nominee passes away before the death of the member, the member’s next-of-kin is eligible to apply for Death Withdrawal. But, if the nominee passes away after the death of the member, the nominee’s next-of-kin is eligible to apply."

Like that who can claim the Death Withdrawal? Husband's next of kin or Wife's next of kin? And what if the nominee has no next of kin?
Will "last will and testament" take over?
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Put it in your will. If no nominations, need probate letter from court which will settle everything.
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post Mar 8 2022, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Mar 8 2022, 04:25 PM)
yeah i think so too.

Okay here is another one - lets say a couple with no children. Husband left 100% to wife but both died. According to EPF's FAQ, it says "If the nominee passes away before the death of the member, the member’s next-of-kin is eligible to apply for Death Withdrawal. But, if the nominee passes away after the death of the member, the nominee’s next-of-kin is eligible to apply."

Like that who can claim the Death Withdrawal? Husband's next of kin or Wife's next of kin? And what if the nominee has no next of kin?
Will "last will and testament" take over?
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Put it in your will. If no nominations, need probate letter from court which will settle everything.
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post Mar 9 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Mar 8 2022, 11:53 PM)
Yea, may need to run to their office once. You also plan to do it for your parent?
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Why don't just try live chat first at their website or call them? Maybe will get you the info.
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post Mar 10 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Mar 9 2022, 10:59 PM)
If I performed Self Contribution, the money will be transferred to my Akaun 1 only or they will split into Akaun 1 and Akaun 2?
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Split 70:30
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post Mar 14 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Mar 14 2022, 01:54 PM)
Cash only, good question, i didn't ask about cheque, sorry about that.

Yea, online transfer is easier but my parent, not tech savvy.
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Maybe they scare Duit Haram...there is a recent story of a robber who robs the bank and then not much latter tries to bank in RM350k CASH into another bank....doh.gif
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post Mar 17 2022, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Mar 17 2022, 04:26 PM)
The thing is, even if wanted to withdrawal, we can’t withdrawal out. And it is by law , EPF is mandatory for employees in Malaysia. Basically, like it or not, they can do whatever they want
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Those reached 55 can withdraw all. Those 50 can sapu Acc2. Just reduce it as much as possible.
.those below 50, use it buy house, invest and find other ways. Probably will need to work with Employer on how to reduce future contribution if possible

 

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