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post Nov 16 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Dembeee @ Nov 16 2021, 09:25 AM)
My update after 2 years

Job Title : System Developer
Job Desciption : Maintain/enhance system based on client's requirements
Age : 26
Years spent in company : 3.5 Years
Company : Local Company
Industry : IT
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : degree
Location : KL/PJ
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 42.5

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance :  RM5600
Contractual Bonus (months): -
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : -

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : RM 2000/Year Medical/dental . Insurance RM40k/year
Transport Benefits :
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : -
Flexi Working Hours : -
Other Benefits :
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Pretty good increment in 2y. What language do you code in?
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post Nov 16 2021, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Dembeee @ Nov 16 2021, 03:16 PM)
Mainly in RPGLE.

Got small increment in 2020 to 3800. But earlier this year they announced no increment for this year due to all the economy bla bla bla hahaha.. And I planned to find a new job early next year suddenly got Salary adjustment  biggrin.gif
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Nice. Silverlake?

Do you code in other language too?
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post Dec 8 2021, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(RavagerX @ Dec 5 2021, 10:12 PM)
Job Title : Consultant
Job Description : Deploy SaaS products for customer
Age :32
Years spent in company : 1 week
Company : US MNC
Industry : Tech - Software consulting
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Experienced hire
Experience before joining (years) : 4.5 years in Consulting + 3.5 years in hotel
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Hospitality
Location : Kuala Lumpur
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 (project dependent, really)

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 10,000
Contractual Bonus: 15% of annual salary
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : n/a

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Insurance + Medical (limit 4k USD, global policy)
Transport Benefits : Travel & expenses covered when traveling for projects.
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : Work laptop and other peripherals, claimable internet
Flexi Working Hours : Yes, when not rushing for project timeline. Doesn't matter what time you start or finish as long as task completed. Permanently WFH.
Other Benefits : Claimable medical check up+ eye exam+ glasses, free LinkedIn Learning subscription

Just started a new job. Recently only felt that I'm 'qualified' to post here, since everyone seems to be high earner here.  biggrin.gif

I studied hospitality - shit degree, realized too late and my fresh grad salary is 1.9k  sweat.gif
Landed software consulting role due to the tech company is hiring for the consultant role for the product that my hotel was using. However I'm also underpaid for years in that tech company before jumping twice to this current job.
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Interesting. How did you manage to transition from hospitality to IT?
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post Dec 8 2021, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Dec 8 2021, 09:39 AM)
It is in his last paragraph.
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I'm referring to his technical abilities as IT is quite difficult to go into
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post Jan 3 2022, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Dec 1 2021, 06:31 PM)
Update:

Job Title : VP of HR
Job Desciption : Heading the Rewards team
Years spent in company : new
Company : - Int Bank
Industry : Banking
Employment Level : permanent
Experience before joining (years) : 9
Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM40,000
Contractual Bonus (months): non
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : average 4 mths, normally 3-4+

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : 8k med, annual medical checkup
Transport Benefits : car allowance, parking, travel claims
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : 200 p/m
Other Benefits : normal bank benefits
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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Jan 3 2022, 07:57 AM)
Yes, have been offered C-level roles but I don't think I'm suited or keen on a broader management role as the skillsets required are much different than a functional head.

However, given I am kinda pricing myself out of the market, this is likely the only move I will have if I want to progress, pay wise.
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For a Head of Rewards, it is really high to be honest. I read back your posts, what motivated your new employers to pay such a steep mark up to you? From 22k to 33k to 40k, at the function head level, it is considered a steep mark up.

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post Jan 3 2022, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Kelangketerusa @ Jan 3 2022, 04:26 PM)
Honestly, scarcity of talent, especially for these positions.

Bear in mind, I am not even the highest paid around, so I am considered relatively cheap vs some of my other peers.
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At 40k, it is considered as on the higher band for most functional heads in the bank. And with HR being a cost center (granted am not familiar with HR's scale), I do find it not easy to believe that 40k is on the lower scale. I know both front office, middle office and back office, 40k for functional head is definitely on the high side for all 3 of them. For front office, probably above average, but still on the higher side.
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post Jan 4 2022, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 4 2022, 07:42 AM)
I guess it depends, I know that in one of the previous banks that I have worked at, 40k and above is usually at the GM level regardless of whether you are in the profit centre or support role (e.g. compliance, risk, finance, etc..etc..).
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GM is usually C-suite. Or considered senior functional head with 2 to 3 functions below the person.
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post Jan 4 2022, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 4 2022, 08:28 AM)
No, they aren't C-Suite. Most of them report to Heads of Departments who then report to the C-Suites. Each GM basically manage a function below them whilst the Heads of Departments manage the GMs.
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My post above refer to Hods. Even for HoDs, 40k is really on the high side. If GMs in your definition is below HoDs, their pay should be lower.
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post Jan 4 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 4 2022, 11:24 AM)
Oh i am not guessing, I know for a fact that their pay is between RM40k-RM50k. HOD's tend to get about 60-100k whilst C-Levels compensation is in the millions depending on their function which is a mix of equity as well. C-Levels all have 2-4 year contracts.
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Hods for banks 60 to 100k? That's definitely out of range. Just check the many salary guide from Hays, Robert Walters, Michael Page, etc. Those in the 60k to 100k are outliers.
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post Jan 5 2022, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(teddie @ Jan 5 2022, 10:06 PM)
i'm surprised with the range too. The hod i know from oversea bank, hold HOD position (ED title) he/she is earning 25k per month approx, excluding performance bonus.

As for local bank IT HOD that I know, he is earning about 20k approx. SVP title.
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The range quoted is definitely on the high end. Those are usually reserved for key positions within back office or Heads of front office like Corporate Banking or Treasury. I call them Senior Hods, definitely not the normal HoDs.

The ones you quoted is definitely the norm outside of those senior Hods, though can go up to 35k or 40k depending on specialty.

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post Jan 6 2022, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(teddie @ Jan 5 2022, 10:30 PM)
One holding retail secured/non secured loan , another holding channel department. So probably you are right, senior HODs
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In Retail Banking, the senior Hods by default is usually the Head of Branches / Distribution. That should hit this range. Other than that, it is Bank dependent.
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post Jan 6 2022, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 6 2022, 09:39 AM)
No wonder there is such a high turnaround for IT especially within the banking industry. My ex-colleagues who were mid level managers already with a VP title were already earning 20k onwards. Some of them had no direct reports and just individual contributors.
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I also know of a few cases like this. There are individual contributors who are lower ranked than HoDs, but earning higher than HoDs. But again, those are uncommon and not the norm. You will find that the gap between senior individual contributors and HoDs not to be very big at times, probably only 15 to 20%. A real weird structure we are in.
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post Jan 6 2022, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(teddie @ Jan 6 2022, 09:58 AM)
I assume your ex-colleagues are/were from business or revenue generating department? The SVP/ED who I mentioned above, she is leading nationwide branch managers. Probably my network isn't strong enough, the Ops and IT within my circle who are in banking, they are not earning that much. And bonus is around 3 months or less. Another close circle who I know, he is local bank head of it security drawing around 20k too, VP title.

So when you guys talking about a HOD can potentially draw up to 100k, it is a big eye opener to me  notworthy.gif
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Yours is definitely the norm.
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post Jan 6 2022, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 6 2022, 10:05 AM)
No, they were under the support function (non-revenue generating) within the Chief Strategy Officer's purview of teams focusing on digital initiatives.

I am surprised as well as I was recently hiring a full stack engineer and most of them were already commanding RM18k salary and their expectation was at least RM20k and my budget at the time was only RM15k  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

I ended up hiring a contractor instead for RM15k a month as it is cheaper for the company as we don't need to cover medical, EPF, etc..etc..

Edit: sharing some job postings online that offered up to RM20k for full stack and data engineers  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
https://my.hiredly.com/jobs/jobs-malaysia-h...b-data-engineer
https://my.hiredly.com/jobs/jobs-malaysia-t...stack-developer
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I would not use the higher end of quoted scale as benchmark. For the 2 ads you posted, I would say realistic pay would be circa 15k. Usually hiring managers will not pay max amount.

For full stack (real ones), yes, range should be around what you mentioned.
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post Jan 6 2022, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 6 2022, 10:13 AM)
Which i think is the issue and why many are jumping ship and joining tech companies and startups who offer higher salaries. I definitely do see HoDs in the couple of banks that I have been on the higher scale of salary but these are long term vested bankers, been in the firm for >20 years type. There are also exceptions where the HODs were hired from overseas and I knew one who made about RM3mil per annum (because needed to top what the person made overseas with the exchange rate and all).
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Seems like your field is IT, and yes, today IT pay in banks has gone up due to much competition in the market. But even then, for 60 to 100k, it is usually for roles like EA, Head of Data, etc.
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QUOTE(sieghart7990 @ Jan 18 2022, 09:27 AM)
Hi guys, i dont see much posts from FMCG industry, please do share if any...

Below is my current job:

Job Title : Commercial Finance Manager
Job Description : Manage company P&L and Budget
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 2
Company : Manufacturing
Industry : FMCG
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining (years) : 8
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Currently pursuing Professional Qualification
Location : Selangor
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 60

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : RM 13,050
Contractual Bonus (months): 1
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 2-4 months depending on company performance

Benefits (where relevant)
Health Benefits : Medical, Dental
Benefit-in-kind : Monthly free products worth RM500
Mobile / Internet / Gadget Benefits : RM50 handphone allowance
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Are you the financial controller? Or do you report to FC?
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post Jan 28 2022, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(diaboli @ Jan 28 2022, 04:23 PM)
To be frank, the company with the new opportunity seems like having a lot of bad reviews online. My concern would be if I accept the new opportunity, of course the pay is higher but I don't want to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire if you know what I mean.
It seems like current company seems to be more stable and better than the new company.
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Always make sure where you are going to is at least bearable. If not, you have much to lose.

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