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post Jan 13 2011, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 13 2011, 08:35 PM)
canada does not allow imu students to do their internship there......you will need to go to the us.......

if your intention is to eventually go to us for work and training, then you can do so from anywhere in the world......you just need to have the usmle step 1 and 2..........
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yea what i meant was residency in the US. The US prioritizes their own graduates first before the IMGs. And also it's hard for ppl to travel so far for interview ie from msia, india etc (of course it's possible). AND THEN u have to uproot ur family/ gf/ bf that was previously with u it's a whole lot of complication. If u start the uprooting process during med school then probably such complications are lesser.


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post Jan 14 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jan 13 2011, 10:27 PM)
The IMU rep acknowledge that the number of overseas pms will be reducing going forward and commented that there is an urgent need to look for new partners and/or new countries. Will such new pms be better, at least comparable but hopefully not worse. Commercialisation may be the ugly word!
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I dont think there'll be anymore better med schools that IMU can twin to unless it's to a new country. Or perhaps a few more US schools lol like Thomas Jefferson (for the fact that it is in US). They walloped almost all Aussie public med schools, and there's only few new UK med schools left for them to grab. I cant think of any other OECD countries that IMU did not twin to.
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post Mar 1 2011, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Mar 1 2011, 08:16 PM)
i've read the topic at hand. and honestly, from first hand experience. its very much due to luck and chance. so long as you're in the top 10% of the batch (1-20) you're almost guaranteed your top spot unless the uni gives out limited space and the top 5 in your batch are applying to it.

if not, this is my advice. if you're an average scorer like me. meaning your cgpa is breaching 3.0 or so. make sure you have variety in your top 5 selections. dont be so adamant on getting the best unis on your list, or focusing too much in one direction (eg UK) , make sure you mix and match it up alot. so lets say you wanna go to uk try:

1. UK (the uni you want the most)
2. UK
3. AUST
4.AUST
5.UK

something like that. at least if you land on your 3rd or 4th, you'll be getting an australian uni you either dont mind, or like but due to time constraints (speaking strictly to M1's here) you dont wanna wait and would rather start early

And for any repeat/resit students. you'll very likely be thrown to the uni no one wants to go at all (Leceister for my batch) cause you have to resit their EOS5 again, if you fail you go home. hence nobody in their right mind wanted to go. and m208 will be sending almost all the repeats there. So , if you're a resit/repeat, try BMED science, or USMLE. Especially if there arent many students competing for USMLE in your batch, just take it. Its worth while the knowledge to give it a go. This way you'll at least be going to a uni you would wanna go to! or better yet , just dont fail any EOS's tongue.gif

competition slots for Aberdeen and Dundee is now the highest. due to the fact you graduate a whole lot earlier and you spend less money in the long run. this year m2 will be sending 13 students to dundee (hence my logic in saying that DONT BELIEVE THAT ITS ENTIRELY DOWN TO MARKS ALONE)

finally, wishing you all the best future PMS students. it was an interesting time of your IMU life with alot of uncertainty in uni selection. just keep an open mind and you'll find almost any pms option a good option (actually not really smile.gif )
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To be honest coming this far i sorta disagree with what u said.

I think one should focus on the country rather than the uni itself.

And also, of course a faster- graduating program sounds good in a short run, but if you intend to stay a lil longer in the UK (ie be really competitive and apply for CT1), it's better for u to be well trained (means 3 years of UK training before coming out as an FY1 rather than 2 years - and then get screwed for FY1 and fail to get into CT1).
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post Mar 3 2011, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Mar 2 2011, 03:11 AM)
well, it depends on the student tbh. if he/she doesnt wanna stay back in that particular country but would rather want prestige that comes with the university i feel the technique i've mentioned would help spread the distribution a little.

i'll be undertaking 3 years in the uk. but looking at the current situation, my chances are looking slim as they have enough doctors over there dont they?
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hmm, yah i know what u mean but eventually one will realise it's not the undergraduate degree that matters anymore =(. It's like, nobody wanna go to Canada / Thomas Jefferson (except for some really enthu ppl) - coz they think those university are just average and they dont bother doing another USMLE - but it actually saves HEAPS of time to get ur specialist accreditation as compared to else where.

3 years UK training is definitely better compared to 2 years! =D
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post Apr 25 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Medico @ Apr 25 2011, 02:03 PM)
Hi Angela, about Australia not registering you as a doctor is it true? Because from what I heard is even if you cant do your housemanship there, you still graduate with an Australian degree which allows you to return there any time in the future if you can secure a job. Anyway that's just disheartening...

Oh Hi IMU seniors, I'm in quite a dilemma and I need your precious opinion. I'm already in the grad pathway, and I'm targetting ANU(well, If I'm really that capable..) and suddenly this friend of mine popped up this question:"If you're really that capable, why dont go Edinburgh?" Well that's how my dilemma started.
-I'm already in the graduate pathway, and to switch(which I'm not even sure if it's possible) will be messy.
-How do I say this U is better than that? As we all know the rankings dont necessarily count. And I've consulted my mentor on this, her answer was:"Edinburgh is prestigious, yes in the old days, now not necessarily. Unless oxbridge is in undergrad pathway, going through all the mess wouldnt be worth it."
-And I've checked with a couple of lecturers, technically, graduating from ANU or Edinburgh wouldnt even affect my Job prospects and my specialty training.
-I have plans to settle in Australia, but if Edinburgh is really so worth it, I wouldnt mind giving up that.
-Yes I have considered the difference in cost.
-Nonono I'm not being smug saying that Edinburgh or ANU wants me for sure... As in this stage I'm really just trying to find out an answer for the "Edinburgh is better than ANU" statement, comparison between Universities.

I'm composing this message in a rush, will edit soon. Thanks so much for any feedback!
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My advice would be to choose the country of your medical school (eg UK Aus Canada US) than to go for a specific prestigious medical school. And YES in graduating in ANU or EDINBURGH will affect your job prospect significantly - you cant work in the UK at all if you graduate from Aus, but you can work in Aus if you graduate from UK + after 1 year of Housemanship (aka FY1) via AMC competent authority pathway.

It's unfortunate that Australia is going through a medical student tsunami, and chances are there will be some international students who will fail to secure internships in Aus. I couldnt predict the future like what limeuu said things might turn around but my advice would be to go for a UK/US/Canada medical school.

And for UK wise, I am not sure about the chances of you securing a training position after 2 years of housemanship (FY1 and FY2) - someone could advice you better on that. Oh by the way, it's extremely difficult for you to get Permanent Residency in the UK, unlike Ireland or Aus.
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post Apr 25 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Medico @ Apr 25 2011, 09:23 PM)
Hey guys, thanks for your prompt replies, it really clears up some of my doubts.

I'm sorry that I forgot to mention that I dont plan to work in UK, as for now my ideal plan is to settle in Australia after graduation.
-My main concern now is still about choosing between these 2 schools, ideally I would like to settle in Australia, but then at this time I feel that getting the best degree and training out of these 2 is more important than PR.
-Honestly I still cant see how different they are. I asked my lecturers and apparently specialty is not affected by this also. But what if I really would like to "dream big"-John Hopkins(IMU does have an alumnus who made it there from Jefferson) are my chances different with an Edinburgh or ANU degree?
-Or Specialty differs among countries? Say, US will be dependent on USMLE scores(from what I heard) while in UK(I'm not sure myself...)
-Job prospects in Australia should be better(at least easier) if I graduate from ANU as compared to Edinburgh I suppose?

So in UK, you're allowed 4 months to find a job and to get a tier 2 visa, but then to get a PR there is really hard?

Again I sincerely thank you guys for your feedback.
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Just bear in mind by the time you graduate there might be no more internship places left for you in Australia and you have to cry back to singapore.

And if you want to go to the US your best bet is Thomas Jefferson, otherwise they do not discriminate overseas degree, ie a degree from bangladesh is no different from a degree from cambridge, if their USMLE score and CV are comparable. BUT most training hospitals have SPECIFIC NUMBER OF PLACES for TJU so if you graduate from TJU you wont take the leftovers, you take the reserved places instead.

While studying in the UK guarantees you 2 years of work, and possibility of going to Australia as a 2nd year or 3rd year doctor.

And hey, really, unless your from oxbridge, all degrees are essentially the same. This is speaking from experience wise. And "getting the best degree", "graduating from Edinburgh owns those graduates from Liverpool big time" are not true, but most of us probably underwent the same phase of life, lol.


Added on April 25, 2011, 4:50 pm
QUOTE(Huskies @ Apr 25 2011, 09:37 PM)
You don't really have to worry about your prospects after graduation. Just do your best in medical school and you will be head hunted by hospitals. And if you're really good, they'll somehow find some way to circumvent the immigration obstacles so that you may settle in the country (UK or Aus) permanently. In terms of career advancement, I would say US is probably the best for overseas doctors simply because of the USMLE. Generally a score of >230 on Step 1 will get you into most residency programs but for competitive ones will require 250 and above.

If you're expecting a smooth ride after graduation, you can forget about it. It's the same case for any field - I don't see why it should be any different for doctors. Survival of the fittest smile.gif
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Sorry mate hospital dont headhunt you eventhough you are the creme de la creme, you have to go through a centralised process and some top students may still ended up jobless in first round if they didnt put the selection wisely

No it's not easy to settle in UK permanently.

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post Jun 15 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(stupidpmsstudent @ Jun 15 2011, 10:36 PM)
arghhhh i want to go to glasgow T.T..... hope i wouldnt end up in the not good PMS!!!!!! what sem are you in limeuu


Added on June 15, 2011, 5:37 pmwait wait so b- is consider bottom students lar?!!! WTF
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I think the thought of "not-so-good PMS" should seriously be scrapped off. All PMSes are good.
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post Jun 19 2011, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(stupidpmsstudent @ Jun 18 2011, 10:57 PM)
woot then if i believe i stand no chance of going to there d T.T....
but i think the result is largely based on how you put your choice, if you're bottom student and put all those popular pms as your first 5 choices then im sure you will get 6th and 7th choice
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just rank all the UK universities and the end result will be the same....

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post Jul 1 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(morphedivory @ Jul 1 2011, 03:15 PM)
hey everyone,

i've been accepted into feb 2012 intake IMU-PMS.

if there is someone who is willing to trade with me for august 2011 IMU-PMS, I am willing to make some financial reimbursements.

thanks.
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if people can afford for IMU-PMS, i dont think they will want much of a reimbursement. lol anyway IMU doesnt allow that
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post Jul 24 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(whyyyyy @ Jul 24 2011, 08:01 PM)
imu seniors,may i know how many places in imu medicine twinning to thomas jefferson college for each batch?
isnt it competitive?
jefferson graduate has higher chance than imu seremban graduate to do residency in US?
is there any example of imu seremban graduate get residency in us?

ur help definitely appreciated!!
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IMU-TJU is the only way in the world you can get into a US university backdoor, without getting a degree. It is getting really competitive.

And yes, TJU graduates will be treated as a US graduate, so chances of getting into residency is really high, like, really high, as compared to UK AUS NZ.

The latest info I get was - Neurosurg 80% success rate, ortho 65%, ophthal 60%, and others are usually 80% ++.

IMU-TJU graduates usually become a fully accredited consultant before age 30. blardy hell
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post Oct 6 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 6 2011, 02:09 AM)
i see uq is also giving conditional offers for the double degree undergrad entry programme.....their minimum requirement for this pathway is very high....atar99/op1.......
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limeuu mind elaborating on the UQ DD undergrad programme?

6 years for 2 degrees!?
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post Jan 21 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(irisss @ Jan 21 2013, 01:33 PM)
From what I heard,you have to get through some sort of test before practise in china even if you studied in china.
However,I heard the test is not hard.
It is not easy to find a job in china as a medical graduate because there are more graduates than positions.
Normally,you have to had least have a master of medicine in china(2 yrs), this is like the residency training In western countries.many ppl in china has doctor of medicine (degree you obtained after master of medicine3 yrs).if you get really high grades in university admission test,you can get into accelerated doctor of medicine program which is 8 yrs.the md in china is different from md in US.salary varies a lot in china,if you have doctor of medicine from a reputable uni or you have finished residency training in US or other developed countries.
Your salary can be rm10k-15k+ per month.if you only have mbbs or master of medicine,your starting salary can be really low,like rm1k+ per month and it is also likely that you can't find a job.
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How long does it take in china to train up a doctor? Did you say 8 years? When do you specialize and how? How long does it take to be a specialist?

 

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