I have heard that IMU will no longer be offering pms route soon. is it true?

may I know why would IMU want to shut down the PMS programme ? thanks.

Thank you very much Jckc and limeuu!

Assume that it happens to be what Jckc says(one PMS will drop one by one until like 2 unis in the UK are left), how would IMU to about allocating their 100++ students to such few numbers of PMS? What could happen?

Thank You!

There is a pathway in IMU and it has allowed many to do med overseas, esp those with money.

You said they can match up with their university mates, so effectively they are there on merit. Unfortunately UK is going to change the quota for internationals.

I also believe that gaining direct entry into UK med can be considered as a game of chance. For Malaysians, many are equal in academic performance and PS. Whether you make it or not is at the interview and this depends on the interviewer, though he has a guideline.

When I conduct interviews, if you have a pleasant personality, you will have a more than even chance. That's life.

Tends to agree with you on this, as its selection processess/procedures are really demanding ..... having money only

is not enough to confidently gain entry.

How would you explain that most successful applicants ONLY received one offer and not multiple offers if you think that a successful applicant met the tough criteria as stated by you.Unless most of the universities has different criteria. MABECS has indicated that one is LUCKY if one manage to get one offer.

If you are talking about recruiting a CEO, there is only one main criteria. If you dont perform within 2 years, you have to walk through the door taking into consideration that the first year is a honeymoon year.

I don't know because I did not ask.

As the Sunway College applications went through them, I went to seek more info on the number of places available for internationals, the place of interviews, the preference of Malaysian students and whether certain unis have a preference for Malaysians.

The counsellor was helpful but at the end of the session, we just walk way and she wish us Best of luck!

And for your info, University of Edinburgh used that tag line that you mentioned.

And I dont think British High Comm will provide such details as the college itself would have to get the details from the students.

I don't know where some people have heard that IMU is stopping PMS pathway, but I can tell you that this is definitely not true. This is one of the most deciding factor why many students choose to do medicine in IMU. This credit transfer provides a backdoor into the unis. Stopping PMS = Less Students = Less Money for IMU. (Although, the number of students and fees have been increasing steadily throughout the years) Remember, education is a business.

However, regarding PMS universities pulling out is a fact, and is due to a number of reasons: 1. Those universities have filled up their quota for international students.  2. The quality of IMU students who  transfer are appalling(seriously, this is a true) 3. A number of PMS uni have change to graduate pathway(esp. Aussie)

For the UK universities, it's usually the 1st reason. There are a huge number of a 'certain type' of students transferring to UK, thus filling up the quota. It's not that they pulled out. They will reappear again in the PMS list, just not for a year(or maybe, two) to balance their local:international student ratio.

Unfortunately, it's a discrete matter but, if you must know. I can only tell you that there is a certain group of sponsored students who are only match to unis in the UK, hence, filling up the space meant for other students.

Every uni has a certain local:international students ratio. Most people just look at the limit of international students numbers for a uni, many don't realise that there is such a ratio between local and international students and as well as, between international students. This is just to satisfy the local students. Well, of course, most unis want higher international student intake, since they pay a higher amount for fees. But (as a local)would you feel happy, if >80% of your class are foreigners.

It was an exaggeration to point out my point. What course or uni would even have >10‰ as you have pointed out. In medicine, a highly competitve course they even try to keep it as low as possible. Nevertheless such a thing exists and have a big impact on the number of international students admitted.

About the credibility, PMS pathway is a backdoor and much easier entrance to unis. Students who opt for it are guaranteed a place, they just need to scrape a minimal pass for their exams. Of course, bear in mind this shouldn't be generalised to all the students.

Common sense? Want to profit? This is business we're talking about. Do you know how many times more are international students paying compared to local students? Do you really think these unis are playing by the rules? Just a quick search on google will report numerous articles of unis bending the admission rules to allow more international students in.

Went they realized that "Oh no, we have admitted too much for the year, what should we do?" They will take up the quota for the following year. At least they have the brains to do that, look at the glut here. And all for what? To balance the student ratios.

Seriously, you can't just google for yourself.
This isn't much of a choice for the PMS uni. There is an understanding between PMS uni and IMU such that the PMS uni will reserve a certain number of places for IMU students unless there are certain reason/s that they couldn't afford to.

PMS uni sometimes are taken off from the PMS list for certain batches. Most often the reason is no placing. The reason behind is up to your own imagination. Once they resolve their 'placing' problem, they#ll reappear in the list.

the patchy standards of imu students pales in comparison with the range of students in russian med schools....

Effective this Sept 2014, IMU students transferring to Liverpool U will pay 3,750 pounds additional per year and next year onwards it will be raised to 10,000 pounds.

Wow, another additonal RM200K and we hope the Ringgit at least maintain its current value.

IIRC, schools like KCL accept students with AAaab. Worth a shot I guess.

Well in SG we take a standard SIPCAL (singapore integrated programme Cambridge a levels), so no way to take CIE unless one is a private candidate.

Some UK med schools are now charging GBP 158xx per year of pre-clinicals.

then you are lucky....i understand new offers now state that fees are not locked, and MAY be increased yearly based on inflation.....the key word is 'may', and i do know cases where they actually did NOT increase, although the offer letter says it 'may'....in that sense, uk unis are more lenient than oz, where there are no more lock fees....and they do increase yearly....

question is, do they tell you what year 3 fees will be, from year 1?....since they do not fix fees until just before the academic year starts, each year....

Suppose to be locked for all 5 years. Since the pre-clinical and clinical years' fees are the SAME, they can afford to. The high margin in Year 1 and 2 provides for that.