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post Oct 4 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(znlwinvk @ Oct 4 2012, 11:20 AM)
my financial situation has improved since when i was in the uk last  year  smile.gif i m applying to imu cos i dont want to wait for another application cycle in uk, which will take another year...(course starting in sept 2013). and thats the exact reason why i dont want to get postponed to august intake as there wont be a difference for me anymore. plus it would mean that this year would have been a waste of time.


Added on October 4, 2012, 11:20 ami just want to know if I am likely to get in or not.
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That means you are hoping to get to UK in Sept 2015 or oz in Feb 2016.
An august intake may set you on a gap year.
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post Oct 4 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 4 2012, 04:36 PM)
Thought you missed it so I'm bringing it up again. Can you show me where you got this information?
400 quid a month? How is that possible?  rclxub.gif

When you mention it isn't much more than living in KL (I assume you converted 400 quid to ~RM2000), you did not factor in quality of living. I am sure with RM2000 a month in KL as a student, you can live very much luxuriously and far more comfortable than a student living in UK with 400 quid a month.
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I dont think rent is included in the 400 quids.

If you are doing your own cooking, you can. Many of the food items are much cheaper than KL and the quality are comparable or better.
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post Oct 4 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 4 2012, 05:06 PM)
limeuu mentioned "all inclusive", so I assumed accommodation is included.

I have no idea about food prices in UK, but for me, I prefer to eat out for every meal (doable only in Malaysia). No cooking and more importantly, no cleaning!  laugh.gif
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If its all inclusive, I would like to know as well. It would be a nice place to squat for a month long holiday.

If you require hotel-like accommodation and food services, just pay.
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post Oct 4 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2012, 05:31 PM)
in some cities, rentals can be as low as 50 quid a week, or just over 200 a month, plus utilities.....

if you buy food and cook, you can do with 20 quid a week shopping....food is generally cheaper in uk than oz.....

if you want to eat out everyday, then i suppose if that is your priority, stay in msia.....
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Mind sharing which cities come close to the rental of 200 quids per month?
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post Oct 4 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Oct 4 2012, 06:31 PM)
I think if you share accommodation, it will work out to be something like that...
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Not that I know of, even for sharing.


Added on October 4, 2012, 9:33 pm
QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2012, 06:31 PM)
leed and nottingham comes immediately to mind.....
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Tks. I hope other accommodation for travelers are comparable.
Not too sure about renting whole unit of those private residence. But 50 quids a room per week is definitely a steal.

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post Oct 5 2012, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2012, 10:32 PM)
glasgow will be more expensive....

if you intend to travel around uk, and can plan 3-4 months ahead, i recommend travelodge chain, many 19 quid rooms in many cities and towns.....and during sales, even 15 quid only.....
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Oh yeah. Tks.
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post Oct 6 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(aong @ Oct 6 2012, 10:55 AM)
Hello I'll be having my IMU interview in 3 weeks' time.

May I ask do most students get within their top 3 choices of PMS? If you do well academically and in your ECAs, will you be able to secure one of the top 3 choices? Someone in this forum said that EACH school takes some weak and some strong students - I do not think this is true, because if you are strong, you get ranked higher, and therefore, if all strong students apply to the more 'sought-after' or reputable schools as their top 3 chocies, they will in fact attain what they want! My top 3 choices are Edin, Glasgow, and Dundee in order of preference. I understand that some 'A' students may not get their choice, probably because their personal statement does not contain enough volunteer work, etc.
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It is a mix of top and weaker students to give a balance to the partners. You may not even get uk and get sent to other countries. That's the risk in IMU.
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post Oct 8 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 8 2012, 12:39 PM)
time has changed.....there was a time not too long ago, when people are desparately trying to get aussie pms.....now it is uk ones....

there is no guarantee.....but if you are in the upper 1/2 of the cohort, you almost certainly will get one of the 14 uk pms you list as the top 14 in the matching ranking.....

at least there are 14, and the majority of pms slots.....the aussie places are very few now....and with the strength of the aud, and the possibility of not getting a houseman job at graduation, i suspect oz is not popular at all now.....i know at least one student trying to change a match to unsw to a uk uni.....an unheard of thing in the past....
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IMU should try to expand the no of uk partners knowing that the unis need the full fee paying internationals. Now should be the best time with their wobbling economy.
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post Oct 9 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Oct 9 2012, 10:59 AM)
Doctors not from Australia or New Zealand will have to be assessed by the Australian Medical Council before they can register with the Medical Board of Australia as doctors.

AMC Assessment Pathways: Click here

Medical Board of Australia's Types of Registration: Click here

For UK doctors, you may be able to obtain registration via the Competent Authority Pathway.

Also, you should keep in mind that internship shortage are happening in Australia, UK and Malaysia. You may not be able to get your internship in the UK by the time you graduate.
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Don't worry if you are graduating from UK. Malaysia also no need to worry but whether you get adequate training is a different matter.
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post Dec 28 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(irisss @ Dec 27 2012, 11:40 PM)
does it help if i am international applicant?
international applicants normally will not apply to monash sunway and numed programme anyway.and the places for international student is fixed.
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There is an increasing trend of sg med students in UK universities and this is affecting the number of Malaysians offered places in these universities due to the "fixed" quota for international students.

I hope the number of places offered to pms students from imu will not be reduced in the near future as this will have serious repercussions on existing students.

Sg has also decided that incentives be given to their med students in uk by sponsoring their last 2 years of the med studies in return for a 4 years bond, which I think is fair.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 28 2012, 03:46 PM)
actually, the pms do NOT create extra places for the imu students (and brunei unversity, which has a similar arrangement with some uk uni, as well as taylors college with st georges).....

they know that there will always be a drop out rate in any cohort, from either failures, or lost of interests....so by the time the cohort reaches the clinical years, there will always be a few places empty....and they allocate them to partnerships like imu.....
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How can that be?

If I recall correctly, you did mention that at the end of semester 5, screening will be carried out to ensure that only those who "qualified" are given places in partner medical schools. Just a question - is the selection process transparent and are the students convinced that their grading is fair?
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 28 2012, 05:22 PM)
why can't that be?....i am talking about the pms, NOT imu...
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Recent trends in UK have also shown that more offers are made than places available, presumably from conditional offers, resulting in students being asked to take a gap year. So, the chances of such places happening in future could be slim indeed.
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post Dec 28 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 28 2012, 07:41 PM)
that is the norm, all the unis know that in some courses the acceptance rate can be as low as 20%......for medicine, it's likely to be higher, and i know for a fact that one make about 350 offers for 259 places....., making a 75% acceptance rate...they of course do not always get it right, so sometimes they will over offer, resulting in over-enrollment.....

but what i am referring to is the drop out between entry, and the start of the 3rd year....about 2-5% will have dropped out....and it is too late to take in new students....except from places like imu...
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This won't apply if the dropouts are from domestic or EU, rite?
Anyway, such places could be very minimal coz it could create a lot of uncertainty for pms bound students.
What's the success rate like for pms students? And the demand for pms places is getting crazy with offers being made for next August intake. Certainly, not many students and parents are giving much thoughts to the uncertainty and prospects of the medical profession.
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post Dec 29 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 29 2012, 12:11 AM)
i get the feeling from this, that you do not know how the imu-pms system works....but am not sure what/how you are thinking....
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Fair comment. Relative did got the pms offer before she left for UK but I did not manage to get the finer details of how the pms works. That's why I raise those queries. Seems to me that students intake are more than pms places available resulting in some students failure to get the matching despite being "qualified".
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post Dec 29 2012, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 29 2012, 12:59 AM)
no, that does not happen......

they know how many places there are, as committed by the respective pms, at the start of every batch....however, imu always take in more than that, as historically, they weed out the bottom 15-25% of each cohort, usually at eos2 and 3....so by the time the cohort is into sem 4, you are more or less assured of completing phase 1.....

ALL pms stream student who successfully complete phase 1 are assured of a place at one of the pms.....

the uncertainty is which one.....and in fact which country!

the majority of students will NOT get their 1st choice....maybe only the top 20% or so may get it, and the lucky ones lower down who choose the 'right' choice.....how they match, the controversy involved, i have detailed in previous posts.....

if on occasions, the cohort coming through is bigger than the number of places, some of the pms can quite easily absorb the extras....some bigger pms can be quite flexible, as demonstrated by the varying numbers they accept from year to year.....
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Thanks. I also went back to some of the earlier threads. I feel sorry for those weeded out which is pretty high considering that these are the cream of the students.
Doing it for commercial reasons are not acceptable.

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post Jan 8 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 8 2013, 01:12 PM)
imu has always maintained that there is no difference between the pms and local programme...the students are all mixed up during phase 1 anyway...

however, it is a fact that the cut off are higher for pms compared to the local programme...the local licence has been increased to 150 per batch, or 300 a year, so they have to fill the vacancies.....

there is no information on what the results of exams are like, and how the 2 cohort compare to each other, but anecdotal experience suggest more failures from the pms cohort....why that is so, and whether there is different assessment standards for the 2 is unknown.....but certainly, the pms generally set a high requirement for their selection....

since 2010, the minimum cut off is no more bbc, but bbb, based on the directive from mmc....

the pms-undergraduate programme remains very popular for obvious reasons, and places are always fully subscribed and restricted, in fact less than the past, due to several pms backing out from the arrangement....that is compensated for by increase in the pms-graduate entry stream....but that is quite unpopular.....never seems to fill up all vacancies...
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if the "assessment" of local medic graduates is true and IMU grads rank highly, the local programme could also be very popular due to its overall reputation.

Also looks like the pms stream is the only option for many who wanted to go to oz and uk. Not sure how many will get to uk direct for this Sept 2013 intake. Just hope that the authorities there consider bolehland more favourable as most if not all the applicants meet the minimum requirements. Most lost out on the personal statement.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jan 8 2013, 01:14 PM)
Anyone know someone who got bbc, and now undergoing local MBBS? How is this student doing/coping compared to say, a student with AAA. Just curious as many have said that even AAA students struggle in the course (not specifically in IMU).
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the guy who got into medic should be in third year by now as the bbb requirements was implemented about 2 years ago.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Jan 8 2013, 03:44 PM)
I think doing medicine is a terrible idea, in light of existing and potential issues.
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It could be very stressful for the sponsors as well!
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Jan 9 2013, 09:30 AM)
I heard a year ago that our Health Ministry conducted a closed survey amongst senior doctors on the HOM in the GH. HOM's from IMU was ranked no 1 and those from UM was no 4. This survey results were never made public.
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But it was accessible to doctors registered with their association. If IMU can maintained its position in the next survey, it will be a big boost to its reputation.
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QUOTE(irisss @ Jan 9 2013, 05:48 PM)
Do they ask about you clinical involvement or volunteer work during interview?anyone knows?and is the case scenario hard to answer?
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Just a mere formality. If too many applicants, can be a bit subjective though.

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