No idea.......... u'll have to wait for the great limeuu to answer ur question.

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And, I've got something to ask here..... If i'm not wrong I did hear somebody saying that the graduates from unrecognized med schools can take the final year of NUS MBBS final exam and if passed, will be able to get registered in the littleland across the sea? They got to know this after the singhealth team visited us on friday.........

I was like at the same time~~ It'll be great for the local grads.... a pathway of venturing out of bolehland......

you never know......

Anyway, you may be one of the donkey pms freak who looks down on the local counterparts when you know exactly you're no where far in terms of academic and clinical ability and it's just that they don't have enough money to go to pms and while the rich gets to enjoy the backdoor provided by IMU so, shut up and recognized the fact here.

If you're not, then don bother what I've said lo, ok? XD

I'm just happy for the local grads, that's all. Of course I hope they can make it, if they really can go and pass the NUS final exam, it'll be something that makes all IMUians proud, isn't it?

Yes Tqeh.... I'm refering to the seremban graduates.... Not all other students from the poorly educated medical graduates from those unrecognized universities such as...... cannot say la......

I believe Singapore has its reason to not recognize IMU MBBS degree....... Based on political reason....... I suppose many of the seremban graduates have the intention of going to overseas but it's just that their degree doesn't permit them to do so....... Imagine if Singapore recognizes IMU MBBS, what would happen? Even if it's not all, still more than half will opt to go to singapore for training rather than staying here and wait for the masters programme, isn't it? And remember, masters programme is quotaed, mainly for the bumis.............. While UM and UKM is recognized, why? It's because Singapore knows that no singaporean can enter our public U........... Or else, these singaporean NUS rejects will come to do our local program, hence end up with a degree registerable, no bonds to sg government, cheaper, who wouldn't want it?

I'm highlighting the fact that the seremban grads, some of them are really good and hardworking.... And they should be given a chance like what Singapore gives them to prove their ability.... Going to pms is good, but if you feel you are a step higher than the local counterparts, that's very wrong. A lot, in fact, most of the pms student, are so-so students....... There's nth to shout about with all the C's and B's, some with D's on the result slips....... And they are no where far from the people going to seremban......

And it doesn't mean you are damn good if you go to PMS...... Your results will reflect your ability of becoming a doctor........ Academic transcript will be provided to each medical students....... And for certain medical council like the SMC, they heck care where you're from........... They look through your transcript and see whether you're deemed a leecher, or a leader.......... When these leechers find no oced countries want them, eventually they come back to Malaysia........... That's why..... Further flooding occurs......

And if that any of "you", thinks that the IMU grads cannot pass the NUS MBBS final exam, by all means look down on them....... And don't ever let them see you in singapore because you're rejected by UK or OZ....... I bet my local counterparts will laugh their asses off at "you"........ While they become your seniors instead.... coz 1 year ahead of you mar.... They 5 years oni.......

And to that idiot from the post above us...... They are not seeking backdoor....... It's the NUS MBBS FINAL EXAM....... If anyone pass it, that means their MBBS(XXX)=MBBS(NUS)...... Nobody will seek a backdoor that may torture them as NUS is a no kidding university.......

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Sep 27 2010, 03:33 AM

so, whether australasia or uk is the more likely one for us to get a PR ler???

And a last reply to that somebody who wants me to call him by his name which, I just simply don wan.... I'm going to graduate with my MBChB or MBBS or what so ever anyway . We will one day and always be and definitely be regarded as highly intellectual human beings as what you think you are. And lastly, we........ like............ ba... Bac... Back.... Backkdooorsssss....... And stay out of imu's thread when you are a monash medic geek....... Your degree is not recognized in singapore ok??????

Sorry ya zstan I know u're doing pharmacy in monash, that's why I put, ''medic'' geek. Haha... Don be offended... I like pharmacist from monash.

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Sep 27 2010, 03:34 PM

Finally an angelic medical student arrives..... lol..... Thank you for having such expectation and respect on us...... Apparently we are not angels.... XD

I guess going to a cheaper dental school is the best way for your friend............. 500K is half a million........ Even if you sell a house, also need a semi-d at Petaling Jaya................. PTPTN will only loan out 100k to dental students....... Plus other loans that your friend may be able to take up, the most will be a total of 200k only.....................

And believe me, he won't like the feeling to be dead dried up because of choosing Medicine or Dentistry........ A lot of us are almost dried up to be honest.............

AIMST and Manipal would be better alternatives........... IMU can throw out of the window liao if he really can't afford........... I hope russia and indonesia are not part of his desirable destination..........

If housemanship.... Maybe..... As australia has too much home students, they might not be or are unable to cater for the international students' need anymore..... Sadly to say, you'll have to leave the country if you're not employed.... =(

But nobody knows what will happen in 8 years time if you twin to sydney..... Maybe by the time you graduate, there will be enough spaces to accommodate you in..... Who knows?

As for Hong Kong..... You'll have to pass the national licensing examination if you graduated outside the HKG......

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Oct 3 2010, 11:58 PM

good question..... What i can say about this is, if you're doing the local program of dentistry in imu, I'm sure it's not worth it at all..... if u do pds, then different story lo... It's just not worth paying that much and its price is almost the price of doing pms.... 420k for a local degree.... Imu must be mad.....

To be honest... The reason why they charge so expensive is because they do not have enough facilities to teach.... Students need to pair up because imu does not have... Err... I don't know what is that called... The ''chair''???... to learn individually.... You know the big machine u sit on when u visit a dentist?? One chair cost about a c-class benz...... That's why.... They have to charge the cost of buying the new ''chair'' into your fees..... Remember, imu's final aim is just to make huge profit...

Manipal doesn't charge that much because they already have the facilities there...

So if I were you, I will not come for imu dentistry local program.. And would opt for manipal or aimst instead....

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Oct 5 2010, 05:42 PM

Well..... Been there twice with my dental friends..... Not all can get access to the lab... Our ID's cannot open their door.... They are paying 400k but yet they get very little materials during their practical.... Giam siap, no?? Half of their dental lab is still empty.... Lecturers... most of the time have to wait until 5Pm for one from UM..... This isn't what they should be getting with 420k, no??? =(

ooo... 150k har?

Lastly, a 70k difference is not "about the same" my friend..... And don't say their degree is ''almost'' equivalent to a medical degree.... It's a TABOO(they can fight with u all day)..... In fact, dental students in imu have to study both medical and dental sciences..... =)

I believe that the cost is a major consideration for that yew wooi.... And to that, I salute manipal, instead of imu dentistry local. If he's choosing PDS, by all means come.

Not much but there's an increasing number of mature students...

With pms-graduate pathway on the run, I believe there will be more in the next few years.

These mature students may range from age 25<x<45.... For the recent batch there is a person in his 40's enrolled into our medicine... =)

OH MY GOODNESS~!!

I just came across to know that IMU has increased the fees for all the courses........ Medicine is 37k per semester, which means 74k per year, 370k for a local degree! This is crazy crazy................. Dentistry is 450k now!! ARRRRRRRRR........................ Heatlh sciences is WORST........... Hundred thousand over! I really can't stand with imu having so much students and yet still charging them so freaking ridiculously high already!

IT'S NOT WORTH IT TO BE IN THIS SCHOOL ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!! I seriously think I'll die of suffocation one day while walking around in imu! It's freaking crowded and I can no longer find a place to study in the library, a computer to use either in the elab or the library, nor a proper place to eat! It's always occupied and for some they even leave their belongings unattented there to "secure" the computer!

I cannot help but feel sorry for the upcoming new students! 74k per year for those lecturers from the south asia and 2 hours of lecture per day?!?! Oh come on I'm not being racist here but I feel that the whole imu teaching faculty is filled with non other than middle eastern plus indian with some cheap local lecturers! My friends from health sciences told me some lecturers don't even speak proper english and would probably score only band 5 in IELTS! I don't even have classes this friday! It's two empty columns filled with "PS" in my timetable with the big big "Friday Prayers" occupying the whole day!

To all of the prospective students who wants to come to IMU, you better not think twice but thrice. IMU is not living up to their names as a premier medical school anymore..... For now, it's none other than a money slaughtering kanasai school in my opinion! Messed up seriously, MESSED UP....
There must be a certain reason for Auckland, Otago and Calgary leaving us......... I wonder which UK school will be the first to leave us next!

It's a very good school!
Remember to just rank it as 1st choice. =)
B- isn't that bad mar.
But, study hard ya.
Coz, the people whom I know that got glasgow,
mostly are A students....

Out of 12x PMS students for my batch, 40 got their 1st choice.
I personally know some C students getting their top 3 choices.
Popularity of the school + your performace + a bit of luck will determine where you will go.
Good luck.

Ahem... You should know it well if you can afford to do the credit transfer program or not mar, right?
If I were you, I would put my choice for credit transfer program first.
I think IMU will never say NO to your money if you were to switch to the local program, as they are eyeing only for your money. =)

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Added on June 25, 2011, 11:46 amOh? New batch?
I think IMU has changed its curriculum which they will squeeze all semester 1 and 2 stuffs together for the new upcoming batch.
So, for your semester 1, you will be studying all foundation stuffs like
--> Biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, general pathology, immunology, parasitology, microbiology, pharmacology, community medicine, behavioral sciences....
Starting semester 2 will be system based, like cardiovascular system and respiratory system.

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Jun 25 2011, 11:48 AM

Err.... I don't think it's suitable to use "downgrade" la....
It would be nicer if you have used "switch" instead coz it sounds a bit degrading....

I think no one can give you an exact answer here....
Both graduate and undergraduate PMS share the same quota for international students. =)
Usually it is like, out of 230 people, around 20 are international students.

Fail--->Resit--->pass(proceed)/fail(kick out)/fail borderline(repeat semester)
Even if you've failed in eos 2 3 5 in med or eos 2 4 5 in dental but yet you passed all your resits,
you are guaranteed a place in PMS/PDS.
Only in the most unlikely event that no PMS or PDS would want these students,
they will be given the local option.

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Jul 11 2011, 02:19 PM

Yes. I'm sorry for your unfortunate. IMU used to take in students regardless of their performance in SPM and only take in students based on their pre-u results. Right now, no more.

Around 3 slots per intake will be given from TJU.
Competitions are strong as you'll be competing against 2 intakes of students, one yours the other whichever batch that is affecting your matching to US PMSes.
Let's say you have 6 slots per year but 10 people are fighting for it, then TJU will take in the top 6 who got the highest USMLE marks and drop the remaining 4.

I think now IMU has a new partner in the US, which is University of Miami.
Starting 2013 or 2014, there will be a few slots more to US if you wish to go there.

About the switching part, I guess IMU will not say no to your money if you wish to go to seremban.... But there are people who are denied switching to seremban before as the places are quite limited as well, judging from the current situation that more people are taking up our local program due to monetary reasons.

I think no one will be able to answer for your 3rd question here in lowyat? Only the seniors who have done it are able to tell you that but I don't think any of them are active here. But, chances are quite low as you'll be competing against the doctors in the WORLD, tapi kalau you graduate from US then different story la.... Coz you'll be treated as an US grad if u graduated from any uni in the US.

Ok. Good luck.

Around 20 per batch, 35 per year. Grad-PMS are not hot at all, if only 17 out of 20 seats are given for one batch, the remaining 3 will be carried forward to the next batch, making the next batch with 18 places.

ANU only offers 3 places per batch while Queensland(around 12) and Warwick(around 5) offers more. ANU always get filled up during the first round of matching and this leaves you UQ or warwick to choose from if you were to switch.

And, I beg to differ. There's a bunch of people who switched from local to PMS but they were only given graduate pathway. Undergraduate schools are always fully filled and even if they have extra slots, AAD will hardly announce it coz it's a big hassle to send all your documents over to the said PMSes(AGAIN) just for you and it will be too late for you to get your UCAS letter as well.

Q1: Hey... it's a requirement for you to get to the graduate schools. If you opt to go UQ or ANU,the duration of studies is the same as the undergrad students as all of you will be spending a total of 5 1/2 or 6 years(if u join the feb intake) to finish up your studies. Plus, it'll definitely boost your CV... It's an extra degree after all.

Q2: All of our PMS have their own teaching method and they will make sure you come out as a good doctor with adequate knowledge to diagnose and manage patients.

Q3: Adik, who the hell told you this.....? Australia is already facing a problem right now whereby more doctors are graduating than the places for housemanship are available. But, if you are talking about any sorts of working opportunity, unless you don't mind working in rural areas, Australia indeed has more jobs for u... Hmmm....... Postgraduate wise, read about limeuu's post.....

Q4: It is prestigious. It's in fact considered our best PMS of all. But, it's none at all important to you because your chances of being able to get into UK's postgraduate training lies in the question that whether you, are more eligible than anyone else in the EU or are you that brilliant for them to ask you to stay. If you do, they'll take you. If not, sayonara...

This post has been edited by Yeyechan: Aug 10 2011, 12:05 AM