Ok .. Hello there guyss ...
Erm , i dun wanna spoil any relationship with customer ,
but i have to post this thread because it involves hard earned money of my dad =)

ok . here's my trade .. I sold this AMD Athlon64 3000+ to Nitekiss .
His a nice guy btw , i COD wit him in little bali cafe , Klang ..
Before i brought the proc to him , i already checked with pczone ,
and they assure its working . And before i brought to him i also
checked whether there is any broken pins or maybe broken fan
but everything seemed alright ..
So we met in that cafe , nitekiss opened the box ( which also has the proc box which is a small box to put the proc , assured that the proc wont spoil or pin breaks ) and checked the condition ..
he touch touch the pin abit to check whether there is any pin broken or not
but noticed there is not a single pin break . So he gave me RM 100 for that
proc and the trade had been done .

When i went back for some meeting with my parents , he sms'ed me and
told me that there is a pin broke edy .. so i asked him to test the proc and
see whether it can work or not cause i'm very sure that pczone checked the proc
and i myself see it working . then he said the next following day he will
confirm wit me which is yesterday . Where he told me that the proc
really can't work and needed me to pay back RM100 ..
I m a very generous and kind person . I dun really need to bother much bout this
RM100 . But its my dad hard earned money le , he won't just simply buy for me
things one . but because my mobo and proc at that time took for checking , he go buy one new dual
core proc , ram and mobo for me .

So to nitekiss , i'm really sorry for everything .. but to really think bout
the trade , i think i have the right of returning nothing because
the broken pin might be done by you itself . Which is a possibility , might not
be done by you too . But then a trade is a trade laa , sometimes it succeed and
sometimes it wont . Alot of people get conned too , but i'm definitely not that kind
of person. That is why i posted this tread which i never post in this dispute corner before .

For others , please leave down comments cause i really need it .
I wanna listen to more comments to assure that what i'm doing is right =)!
thank you guys ..
Cheers nitekiss . =) !

Do you have proof that pcZone says it working.

THis is another he says she says. =_= .

But nitekiss accepted it after checking, suddenly go home then got broken pin ?

Either he needs new glasses or he must have been freaking clumsy after he collected it from u

Buyers Fault, Don't bother about him at all.

yeapp . i do have proof . i can take the receipt and go pczone ..
the guy that checked for me is always working in pczone workshop ..
his the one that assured me the processor is working ..

yeaap . he accepted it after checking .. if the pin never break , at least
i can claim warranty . but pin broke le , warranty also cannot claim laa ..

ask him to come explain here. As he did checked the pin during the trade, let him explain how the pin got broken.

I have had similar problem myself with a motherboard. I sold took the board back from warranty (my fault didn't test it) and then sold it to someone in forum with poslaju. He then told me the board is not working. I ask him to sent back to me and I refund him the money. I made losses from bearing poslaju cost sending to him. Luckily he beared the cost for sending back to me. Anyway, I then tested the board and it's working 100%.

Well, what can I say....sometimes unlucky to get noobie buyer. BUT, in my case, the board still have warranty. In your case, broken pin means warranty void. So...goodluck.

u got the picture of ur sold proc?
and i would like to see the picture from Nitekiss oso..

actuallly in this case, the seller has the right not to refund the money since u said u already have proof. Nevertheless, it is unfair to the buyer to just accept a trade whereby his purchase product is faulty. Ask him to come over to explain and negotiate. As far as i know, avengerz88 dealt with me b4 and he wont sell a malfunction product. If the buyer really did check the product b4 buying, i wud say most likely that the pin is broken by himself

But sometimes it's hard to tell. I wud say, negotiate with the buyer first..
A reminder to all buyer, pls check the product first b4 agreeing to buy a product.

yeah.... buyer fault.. dont give him refund, u have a proff!!!

Ask him to come to this thread for his side of the story
Don't make a thread here simply to get ppl's oppinion for support

dun worry kiljim .. i already pm him ..
he'll come when his on =) ! his a good guy . no worries ..
i open this thread so that he could read my reviews and my wants on
the trade which had been done .

lol.... i think COD there's no refund de... except u send by pos then he said the pin is broken lar... then it's ur responsibility already. But this case is you COD with him, then he check the item and SAID no problem then deal. After go back home, he tell you pin broken. What's this? Seller sell good item to customer then customer confirm it and now ask for refund when the pin is broken? There's no need to judge this anymore... No one's fault and no refund also.

well,actually is buyer fault,cause he check the processor on the spot and seller said he has proff to proff that the processor is working.....

but.....u think that u can see the 939 pins at a time?eye blur lo.....

Seller also didn't urge buyer to check quickly. Buyer still can take their time to check it. If they spot it at that time, buyer still can refuse to buy it ma.

yeaapp .. true . i didn't urge him ..
sumore i go find him in the cafe when he is eating dinner wit someone .
hehe .. maybe he rushing kua .. i dunno .. but then as i know ,
u have to check the goods , once check , pay for it , once paid ,
the trade has been done . then from then onwards , the responsibility
is to the buyer edyy .. anyway , i'm still waiting for nitekiss to come
here lo ..

well but u can realise wen a pin is missing or broken right...so whihc also means..the buyers fault.

During COD, buyer has every right to see, touch and try the item they are purchasing to make sure it is working. So he did checked the stuff and agreed to pay for it. So once he agreed and bought the item from the seller, whatever happens after that will be his very own responsibility as he had agreed to purchase the item. Even if he did purchase an item which is faulty from the seller, he could only blame himself for negligence.

Anyhow, i'm still interesting of hearing the story on the buyers side. Seller, ask the buyer to send you a pic of the proc that he claims has a broken pin. And make sure that the proc is the very same one u sold to him as there are many people who try to con others here with methods like this. This is not the first case...

i saw this post on Active Forums section.. i really thought it was a "blow me a kiss" trade or something.. hahaha... so weird my brain works..

geee u two gila
ure not suppose to be touching those pins..

processor pins alwis not to get touch unless they'r noobies. Well i could say this not sellers fault. He let the buyer check it slowly n its proven by the shop that tested is ok.

Well if any faulty pin we can c on spot anyway. This could be mostly careless inserting to the mobo cause broken pin.

yup,i also say seller no fault,but buyer not checking carefully and maybe he sendiri buat rosak and now claim for refund,COD u see urself,satisfy,pay,then walk away.

This post has been edited by AceCombat: May 5 2007, 04:19 PM

Acecombat, i think u overturned the whole situation. Buyer and seller mix up. Should be seller no fault lar...

from the story..i assume that before the buyer pay u the money..he had checked all the pins are not bent / broken rite?

ya .. he asked me ' ok , let me check a while ' . then i said ok .
then he opened the box and check lorr .
he never online till today le .. sigh ..
already sms him . hopefully he gets on today to clear the issue =) !

alamak....me stim already la
sorry,already edited liao.

even under Contract Act 1967 , if buyer has checked the item b4 he/she bought it , it is assume that the item is merchantable quality and hence he/she has no excuse on it ....

(if not mistaken lar)



This post has been edited by steventan85: May 5 2007, 06:56 PM

aiya .. but i'm really sure the proc is working before i sell it de ..
so assurance on the quality of the product is absolutely positive ...
but i dunno why suddenly nitekiss said one pin putus lo ..
thats why i need him for his explaination but it seems like his not on
for a few days already . And i already sms'ed him but no reply so far ..

i m nitekiss....u all kn wat the situation of cafe right, the place is dark and busy...i just simple take out pro and see..total time not more then 30 second. u told me no problem one, got 7 days personal waranty...ok..i trust u...i hav dinner at there until time 11 something...when i back home, i open the box to check againt, i found 1 pin is missing, then i direct call u, 3 time....u not pick up phone, then i sms u tell u the thing, u say u r busy...nvm, i sms u tell me the thing, u ask me check and confirm to u...ok, after i test, i sms u agint, tell u the pro got problem, u sall u wanna ask ur father to giv back my $$, ok, nvm, i wait u...but yesterday u sms me ask me online check forum....

wat attitude the seller?? wat is 7days personal waranty?? would we trust LYN seller againt??

RM100 just a small money....if the seller want, i can give him, no need to lied and make my name busuk......

regard,
nitekiss (06-05-2007)

Personal warranty usually doesn't cover physical damage, you're supposed to check that when dealing

ya lo,suppose to check mah.....he's not urge u fast fast check....physical damage is not in warranty....

There's nothing wrong with my attitude and you have no right to blame my attitude . I'm being very nice trying to convince my dad for you and
this is what u do for me ? Saying wat attitude and stuff .. And , please watch words , whats up with the LYN seller ? a trade is a trade . why bother asking the
question of trust on LYN seller ? There are alot of LYN seller which are actually
good and kind , i did tons of tradings wit tons of people , on that particular day
when i sold my proc to you , i sold my high performance ram to this other guy too,
you want me to pm him for his reviews here ? and for him is even more difficult , he came down from sunway , and i have to meet him in jusco , but he apparently parked somewhere quite complicated and i drove 15 minutes or so to searched for him , i'm not like some ' selamba ' seller which likes to make my buyer's wait ok ,
my customer are always my first priorities so stop teasing LYN people like that .

And whats up wit the LIE
thingy , what in the world i lie to you ? i treated you well enough and u say
i lie to you , lie to you as in waht ? 7 days warranty is for you to test the proc
whether its working or not , physical damage is not included ok ! you sell me your
stuff la , then when i COD wit you , i go break the stuff and i come back to u
saying its broken , what would u feel ? nice ? no right ? name busuk busuk all ..
u read this whole thread la , i got say anything BUSUK bout u ar ? although now
ur really being busuk la .. i keep saying ur a good buyer good buyer all ..
but this is what you say me back .

PS : LYN has its own reputation , and its good , no doubt bout it .

Don't worry, the noobie buy things and COD at dark places to check up the thing. (Aynways, got any parents or teacher ask you to read in dark?) Just hope you understand that the prinsip of COD is any damage on item after selling is not seller responsible anymore. If in that case, I can buy a set of computer and COD at shop. By the same day, I call back and said the monitor is missing. ?? (Huh?! WTF) then should seller take out another monitor to replace for you or refund?

Make sense now?

Wow how does your personal waranthy works? You are at fault, for not thoroughly checking the item before purchase. Like that you better don't trust any seller. Waranthy doesn't include damage done physically.

Let's say someone buy something from you, he checked it upon COD and find it to be fine but then he decides that it's not a worthy purchase and breaks it. So you will refund him?

facing this kind of buyer got a bit pening la....

Well, I am the one who bought his performance ram and just want to say he is a nice seller. Actually that day when I COD with him, I am not familiar with Klang, so I waited for him at one area which is quite 'sophiscated' to find. But he took his trouble to locate me as he knew that I am not familiar with the surrouding and if i were to lari here and there, even worse. Basically I can tell u (nitekiss), he is not the kind of person who is irresponsible.
Anyway, if you were in his shoes, what would u do? Would u believe that a person who check and bought something from u then suddenly tell u that the thing broken? It hard to believe and moreover it is a physical damage and not functional damage. I believe in avenger88 will refund to you if the processor not working but not the damage u mentioned.
Lastly even if u bought from any computer shop, then you give them a 'broken pin' proc, i am sure that u cannot claim the warranty. Cheers.

i keep my finger crossed .
how about share the loss RM50 : RM50 ?

there's nothing wrong with the seller here, so why should he bear the responsibility?

seriously dude,u gotta to come up with better excuse. dark and busy is really LAME excuse. get a better one and it is yr fault that u didnt check it properly. it is yr own money,why u want to stress that u took 30 secs to check it. it is yr own fault,dont point fingers to other.

In my humble personal opinion, nitekiss, you buried yourself with the whole "I took 30 seconds to look at the proc" statement.

When I took delivery of my phone from a LYN seller, I took alot longer than 30 seconds, at great personal expense to the seller and me (cos it was late at night and we were at a tollbooth rest stop). But it was worth it.

And dude.. calm down, the only person giving you a bad name.. is yourself.

Hmm come to think of it, I don't see any dispute here.

This post has been edited by altie: May 8 2007, 12:34 AM