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TSeugene_tan6
post Jan 31 2018, 09:12 PM, updated 8y ago

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Hello guys, I live in a double storey house with about 10 devices connected to my 30 mbps maxis fibre internet.
Need help from all the sifus here in choosing a new router. My old router is Asus rt-n12 which was not good enough gave me unstable wireless networks and lags.

Recently I have been looking at these few routers on Lazada but I do not know which is better for my home.

Tenda AC1200 AC6 Dual Band Wireless Router 4x5dbi - RM 155.55
https://www.lazada.com.my/tenda-ac1200-ac6-....59470ca6qY3jmf

TP-LINK Ultimate 450Mbps Wireless N Gigabit Unifi Router TL-WR1043N - RM 168.55
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-ultimate-....3a3b62dbfheEbm

D-Link High Power Cloud Router DIR-619L Wireless N WiFi 300mbps - RM 129.55
https://www.lazada.com.my/d-link-high-power....59470ca6qY3jmf

TP-LINK 2 x 9dbi High Power Wireless N WiFi Router TL-WR841HP V3 - RM 174.55
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-2-x-9dbi-....59470ca6qY3jmf

D-link 450Mbps High Power Wireless WiFi Router DIR-629 - RM145.55
https://www.lazada.com.my/d-link-450mbps-hi....5e2056cdUgLgim

OR if any sifus have any other router models that are better can recommend.
Any advice and recommendation is appreciated. Thanks in advance thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by eugene_tan6: Jan 31 2018, 09:14 PM
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post Jan 31 2018, 09:36 PM

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I would suggest you just forget about upgrading since the difference is not enough to justify the spending. Come back to ask for suggestion if you could stretch your budget to at least RM350
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post Jan 31 2018, 11:00 PM

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I agree with bro zher4883. Your budget is too limited for anything good.

Since you are using Maxis Fibre, you will need to bridge the Maxis router for VoIP, to the new third party router that you will be getting, or only two D-Link routers that can support VoIP.
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post Jan 31 2018, 11:04 PM

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guys, dont need to bash him about this. What you need is a router that supports VLAN on WAN and LAN (some call this IPTV), im sure some on your list supports it. You should remove dlink from your list.

Bridging is fine as even for TM you have the modem then the router. For maxis its pretty much similar too but i believe maxis uses the modem as a router too while on TM they only use the device as a modem only.
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post Jan 31 2018, 11:26 PM


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It would be irresponsible for me not to suggest a Mikrotik router. So Mikrotik.
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post Jan 31 2018, 11:28 PM

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my friend,i will share a proper procedure to determine if the new router suits/will suits you. first of all, all you need to do is, scan your existing network. If your network is congested with 2.4ghz bands, then throw away the single band routers out of your sight. In the price range of 100 to 180, you will get tenda ac router. Next, if you're willing to pull cable from the maxis router to the upstairs / downstairs. Normally, every sifu's will to put the router at upstairs for optimum performance since the antenna's fires the signals downwards and not upwards. If you wish to get a decent dual band router, i will suggest you to try some tplink models such as archer c7v4, however you need to add few more bucks. If you're in the plan to upgrade to higher bandwidth in future, then i would strongly recommend you to take a decent dual band router which comes with gigabit ports. If you're a gamer then you definitely concern on pings and internet stability, so most of the dual band routers will give you a decent gaming experience. If you planning to invest for your future network, then do it from now. and as SilentVampire bro says, you need to bridge your new router to the maxis router or you can opt to buy the dlink's vdsl/adsl router - modem combo.
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post Jan 31 2018, 11:37 PM

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if u can stretch ur budget a bit and don't mind a deep learning curve,

i suggest mikrotik hAP ac lite as router and use back ur current Asus rt-n12 as repeater for better wifi coverage.

This post has been edited by Ebony & Ivory: Jan 31 2018, 11:38 PM
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post Feb 1 2018, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Jan 31 2018, 11:26 PM)
It would be irresponsible for me not to suggest a Mikrotik router. So Mikrotik.
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i normally suggest mikrotik too, but think about his experience, you wouldnt want him to be stuck with a working paperweight that he couldnt figure out how to use without wanting to chuck it out of the window.

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post Feb 1 2018, 09:27 AM

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With a low budget, you can try adding a dual band access point. Btw even a router with no dedicated 'access point mode' in the configuration can act as an AP, e.g. tplink archer C20 (about RM160)
Since there are 10 devices at your house, this will ease the load on your main router (since you mentioned unstable wifi and lags). The 5Ghz coverage on the archer C20 is weak though.

link:
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-archer-c2....1393d303PvVSe6

another 'cheap' option, perhaps can even use this as main router?
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-ac900-wir....436ee3c88jhUBF

another seller: https://www.lazada.com.my/3-years-warranty1....436ee3c8Qs47Ru
not sure if all variants (v1,v2 etc) of it supports unifi though..

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Feb 1 2018, 03:07 AM)
i normally suggest mikrotik too, but think about his experience, you wouldnt want him to be stuck with a working paperweight that he couldnt figure out how to use without wanting to chuck it out of the window.
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post Feb 1 2018, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Jan 31 2018, 11:00 PM)
I agree with bro zher4883. Your budget is too limited for anything good.

Since you are using Maxis Fibre, you will need to bridge the Maxis router for VoIP, to the new third party router that you will be getting, or only two D-Link routers that can support VoIP.
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I'm not using voip
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post Feb 1 2018, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Jan 31 2018, 11:37 PM)
if u can stretch ur budget a bit and don't mind a deep learning curve,

i suggest mikrotik hAP ac lite as router and use back ur current Asus rt-n12 as repeater for better wifi coverage.
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Where did you buy your mikrotik hAp ac lite from?
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post Feb 1 2018, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Feb 1 2018, 09:27 AM)
With a low budget, you can try adding a dual band access point. Btw even a router with no dedicated 'access point mode' in the configuration can act as an AP, e.g. tplink archer C20 (about RM160)
Since there are 10 devices at your house, this will ease the load on your main router (since you mentioned unstable wifi and lags). The 5Ghz coverage on the archer C20 is weak though.

link:
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-archer-c2....1393d303PvVSe6

another 'cheap' option, perhaps can even use this as main router?
https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-ac900-wir....436ee3c88jhUBF

another seller: https://www.lazada.com.my/3-years-warranty1....436ee3c8Qs47Ru
not sure if all variants (v1,v2 etc) of it supports unifi though..
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Thanks for your suggestions man. Really appreciate it.
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post Feb 1 2018, 06:33 PM

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i tumpang thread, my asus rt12hp is start to fail me. the wifi is not stable, keep disconnecting hence planning to get a new router

any suggestion for new router, mainly using for browsing youtube and some online gaming. budget RM500+/-
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post Feb 1 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Feb 1 2018, 05:50 PM)
I'm not using voip
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Ok bro. If you are not using VoIP, your choices just get bigger. You can go to the Mikrotik route, or double your budget and get the TP Link Archer C7 v4, which is the minimum I could recommend to you, if you do not want to bother with configuration. See here: https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-ac1750-wi...is-1774185.html

They mentioned V2, but will send the V4 to you.
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post Feb 1 2018, 06:54 PM

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Guys, what about huawei WS5200? Anyone using this?
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post Feb 1 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Feb 1 2018, 05:52 PM)
Where did you buy your mikrotik hAp ac lite from?
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Can buy from sublime @ lelong.

Btw, I am using hEX.

QUOTE(kyu85 @ Feb 1 2018, 06:33 PM)
i tumpang thread, my asus rt12hp is start to fail me. the wifi is not stable, keep disconnecting hence planning to get a new router

any suggestion for new router, mainly using for browsing youtube and some online gaming. budget RM500+/-
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If budget around RM500,

Want a powerful and capable router, can consider mikrotik. But u may need to spend some time to learn and tweak its configuration.

For set and forget type, just get Asus ac86u from taobao.

Both is good enough.


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post Feb 2 2018, 11:51 AM

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some of us may learn mikrotik via google easily, but many people just arent able to learn and figure out networking. The thing about mikrotik is that its not just adding a bunch of rules, you have to know what you're doing. For instance do you know how to use pcq to get the best quality and bufferbloat? To use the NAT, firewall and mangle to get good security and do all sorts of weird routing?

theres also pairing up mikrotik with another device to do IDS/IPS.

Mikrotik is powerful and capable but only if you know what you're doing. Just copy pasting rules online without knowing isnt helpful. How many here remember to drop connections marked as invalid?
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Feb 1 2018, 05:52 PM)
Where did you buy your mikrotik hAp ac lite from?
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Hi, did you get it?

I'm looking for mikrotik router as well wink.gif


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QUOTE(kyu85 @ Feb 1 2018, 06:33 PM)
i tumpang thread, my asus rt12hp is start to fail me. the wifi is not stable, keep disconnecting hence planning to get a new router

any suggestion for new router, mainly using for browsing youtube and some online gaming. budget RM500+/-
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Will recommend the TP-Link Archer C7 v4: https://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-ac1750-wi...is-1774185.html or the ASUS RT-AC1300UHP.

QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Feb 1 2018, 07:11 PM)
Can buy from sublime @ lelong.

Btw, I am using hEX.
If budget around RM500,

Want a powerful and capable router, can consider mikrotik. But u may need to spend some time to learn and tweak its configuration.

For set and forget type, just get Asus ac86u from taobao.

Both is good enough.
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I agree with you on Mikrotik. But, getting the ASUS AC86u from Taobao is risky, as ASUS Malaysia will not cover your warranty if there is any problems with your unit if you buy it from overseas. Just something to keep in mind,

QUOTE(System Error Message @ Feb 2 2018, 11:51 AM)
some of us may learn mikrotik via google easily, but many people just arent able to learn and figure out networking. The thing about mikrotik is that its not just adding a bunch of rules, you have to know what you're doing. For instance do you know how to use pcq to get the best quality and bufferbloat? To use the NAT, firewall and mangle to get good security and do all sorts of weird routing?

theres also pairing up mikrotik with another device to do IDS/IPS.

Mikrotik is powerful and capable but only if you know what you're doing. Just copy pasting rules online without knowing isnt helpful. How many here remember to drop connections marked as invalid?
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I agree with you bro. I am still learning about networking in general and configuring Mikrotik as a router as well. No point getting something if you can’t really use it to its full potential.

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