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 Best PSU For Overclocker V2, Which One Is The Best? ^^

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post Jun 1 2007, 11:09 PM

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by the way will dirt kill psu?
cant open it to clean cus warranty will void....
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post Jun 2 2007, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Jun 1 2007, 10:19 PM)
well said. the explanation you gave is very informative, especially for fellow forummer. but if you notice, that part wasn't a question after all. it's just that i put it in a 'nice' way to those who just jump in and say 'I just bought a XXX Psu and it's rock solid and no problem so far after XXX year,' or ' XXX is really a good solid psu cause so far so good.'

i'm really offended when ppl say XXX Psu is good. XXX Psu is not good and should be avoided. or XXX is better than XXX Psu. then full-stop. without any explanation. and i'm even sad when they get their fact wrongly. mostly bias. a very plain explanation. Acbel > CM. SS > TT. sigh. well, it just me.... it's my problem actually.

i hope you know what i mean. hehe... no offence. at least you help ppl through enuff explanation. that's why i took off some time to gather the facts and reply you.
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Sorry if it was taken the wrong way, I was just adding on to what you said, not replying to any question in particular or criticizing. You really did one hell of a job reading that many psu reviews, I think I only read half of them at most. Thanks bro notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

Most of what I know is from proper psu reviews and the electronics portion of my physics course. I am not qualified to make any particular recommendations on PSUs, unless I have a proper review to refer to; hence I don't talk about those which I don't know about. I too find it particularly sad when someone just says a psu is good/bad due to their own (isolated) experience. Often its just luck really.

QUOTE(chickenducksoup @ Jun 1 2007, 11:09 PM)
by the way will dirt kill psu?
cant open it to clean cus warranty will void....
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Dirt itself won't kill the psu under most circumstances, but it might kill the PSU fan. Then heat will kill the psu for sure. But usually the manufacturer would be smart enough to use a fan that would at least last as long as the warranty.

After warranty is over, heck, you can clean the fan or replace it altogether. Or more likely, you'll replace the whole PSU brows.gif
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post Jun 2 2007, 12:46 PM

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i actually juz open up the casing without much care of the warranty if i've been using the same psu for a year or more as it has proven to be ok... replacing or cleaning of the internal n fan(s) is kinda important too... as it might help to prolong the psu life span....
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post Jun 2 2007, 04:22 PM

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-400W enough for C2D E6600 + 320M 8800GTS?
yes

-400W enough for OCed E6600 + 320M 8800GTS OCed?
yes again

-400W enough for OCed E6600 + SLi 320M 8800GTS OCed?
YES!!!

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PSU used, FSP ZEN400 400Watt Passive Cooled!!!
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post Jun 2 2007, 08:22 PM

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Kind of knew that already, but I had no proof to show. Thanks bro. thumbup.gif AMD procs and C2Ds take very little power even when heavily overclocked (less than 150W usually). I'm not so sure about the 8800 though, all I know is that it takes around 100-120W per card on full load, but in most cases it will never actually reach full load, especially if its in SLI. Not sure about overclocked power consumption for 8800. Rest of the system takes 50W at most.

However, the picture is very different with Pentium 4 and Pentium D. Those buggers suck juice big time. At least 150W for the processor alone for the 900 series, and the 800 series can even hit 250W at 4GHz.
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post Jun 3 2007, 10:19 AM

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pls recommand me a reliable PSU as per rigs below ( my sig )
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post Jun 3 2007, 11:20 AM

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Silverstone 560w Stride or Olympia 650W lo.. wht else
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post Jun 3 2007, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 3 2007, 10:19 AM)
pls recommand me a reliable PSU as per rigs below ( my sig )
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saw u sell ur icute PSU.
just go for Enermax FMA2 535watt la..
so far so good.. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 3 2007, 11:55 AM

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I think FMA 535W retail price is higher than Strider 560W (RM320).. MyPC lyp.

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post Jun 3 2007, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 3 2007, 10:19 AM)
pls recommand me a reliable PSU as per rigs below ( my sig )
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ok ok........ What is the market price ?

As cheap as possible pls. broke. biggrin.gif

and also which shop got sell ?

Olympia 650W - RM639
Over Budget la..
Price range - 300+

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post Jun 3 2007, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 3 2007, 11:55 AM)
I think FMA 535W retail price is higher than Strider 560W (RM320).. MyPC lyp.
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huh ?i bought Rm345 at pc zone.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Jun 3 2007, 12:01 PM)
ok ok........ What is the market price ?

As cheap as possible pls. broke. biggrin.gif

and also which shop got sell ?

Olympia 650W - RM639
Over Budget la..
Price range - 300+

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updated....
price range - 300+
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post Jun 4 2007, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jun 3 2007, 12:12 PM)
huh ?i bought Rm345 at pc zone.
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yup definitely thats the price when i was bought it last year. till now give good performance, never fails me nod.gif
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QUOTE(serez @ Jun 4 2007, 07:42 PM)
yup definitely thats the price when i was bought it last year. till now give good performance, never fails me  nod.gif
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Hi serez,
Did u chech the 12V rails reading? Mine from speedfan is 11.84v.

Edit: Suk, u can check at MyPC distribution. Last time i quote from them RM320 only, 1 year warranty. Cheapest in lyp.

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post Jun 4 2007, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 4 2007, 08:26 PM)
Hi serez,
Did u chech the 12V rails reading? Mine from speedfan is 11.84v.

Edit: Suk, u can check at MyPC distribution. Last time i quote from them RM320 only, 1 year warranty. Cheapest in lyp.
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same here, mine 1 also 11.84V
Rm320 ?
this PSU no have 5years warrany meh ?

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jun 4 2007, 08:57 PM)
same here, mine 1 also 11.84V
Rm320 ?
this PSU no have 5years warrany meh ?
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AFAIK, Silverstone only offer 2 years warranty for Asia suctomers.
5 yrs is for EU/US region.
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post Jun 5 2007, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jun 4 2007, 08:26 PM)
Hi serez,
Did u chech the 12V rails reading? Mine from speedfan is 11.84v.

Edit: Suk, u can check at MyPC distribution. Last time i quote from them RM320 only, 1 year warranty. Cheapest in lyp.
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mine oso around 11.84v. have to use multimeter loh if wanna get accurate reading.. not really rely on these software

QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jun 4 2007, 08:57 PM)
same here, mine 1 also 11.84V
Rm320 ?
this PSU no have 5years warrany meh ?
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hoh 5years ka? hehe i thought 3years... hmm i think its 3years la bro wink.gif
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post Jun 5 2007, 08:59 AM

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Don't trust 100% the reading you get from programs that read the motherboard sensor. I've tested at least 5 boards with a digital multimeter, and 80-90% of the time the figure does not match or even come close. In fact, half the time the PSU was giving very nice readings on the DMM (11.95-12.05v) while the motherboard was giving me something like 11.86v, or even something outright moronic like 6.99v. And this also applies to the other rails (5v, 3.3v, ect).

Motherboard sensors can help give you a head's up that something is horribly wrong with the PSU (like if the voltage keeps fluctuating rapidly), but using it to judge a PSU's quality is not being accurate at all.
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post Jun 5 2007, 11:49 AM

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yup agree nod.gif monitoring softwares like speedfan etc doesn`t give accurate readings. maybe its just for reference only. summore wanna accurate then use digital multimeter lor blink.gif

btw how to determine wether the psu itself stable or not? i mean how to compare the performance with others? for example enermax fma2 535w and igreen 500w laugh.gif
how to determine which one is the best? through readings from forums and review? hmm.gif is it enough?

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 5 2007, 08:59 AM)
Don't trust 100% the reading you get from programs that read the motherboard sensor. I've tested at least 5 boards with a digital multimeter, and 80-90% of the time the figure does not match or even come close. In fact, half the time the PSU was giving very nice readings on the DMM (11.95-12.05v) while the motherboard was giving me something like 11.86v, or even something outright moronic like 6.99v. And this also applies to the other rails (5v, 3.3v, ect).

Motherboard sensors can help give you a head's up that something is horribly wrong with the PSU (like if the voltage keeps fluctuating rapidly), but using it to judge a PSU's quality is not being accurate at all.
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err.. n00b here, what is the safe voltage range for all the rails (esp 12V+rails)..?

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