if an existing member wanted to exit this scheme, and managed to transferred his subscription fees (for example 2650) to the new owner (for example 2800), then he will earned 150 + recouped his 2650 from it, but will he not ceased to be an agent?, if yes, then how would the "friend" be a good agent?

just like a golf membership contract...once you sell off the membership, not a member of the club anymore.....??

This post has been edited by yklooi: Jul 6 2018, 06:55 AM

can you confirm....
this RM2 per machine per month is chargeable after the 5th year?

for the new machine...until when does the 1 to 1 replacement warranty last?
is it in the contract?

the RM 2 per month per machine does not include 1 to 1 replacement warranty i suppose?

if not, then i suppose if the machine became faulty, then the investor will have to buy a new machine again right?

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regarding the Minimum Purchase target of 60 capsules per machine per month....
Request the Company at anytime to replace any of the Company Customers who fail to achieve the Minimum Purchase Target.

at what frequencies of not meeting the minimum target then CAN request the company.....?
ex...is is ok if,...2 mths met, 1 mth not met, 2 mths met, 1 mth met, 1 mth not met, 3 mths met?

any clear guidelines?

after you request, when MUST the company take action? after the action, when can see results?

if there is a breach of contract by the company...any discourse avenue?

Price of license and machine appreciate also does not benefit the investors that had "rented" to the company right?
if a person want to buy a machine why must get from the existing investor for 750 when he can get it for RM1?


This post has been edited by yklooi: Aug 30 2018, 10:50 PM

1 license fees can buy 30 machines

how much does 1 license PLUS 30 machines cost?

5 to 10 license entitled to buy 150~300 machines....
what is the total outlay?
any idea?

ok thanks for confirmation.......since you only drink and not invest in it...

ok....nothing else to ask except the taste if wanted ha-ha..

yes,...my concern is the capital protection....
for earlier forummer posted what seems like/perceived to be 1 to 1 exchange forever.....
thus,...if that is possible......then returns is forever too....

Thanks....perhaps you can show him the posts and ask him to join lyn n enlighten many of us.

Good...thanks.....for yr suggestion...
In the mean time will keep waiting for some kind souls that knows and happens to drop in here....

But 1 doubt that it is 1 to 1 exchange free......
As there was a post by a forummer questioning the shelf life of a china made electonics products......

Good for you n those that had invested in less than 3 yrs....
It is never until now a con job

yes,...but.....the recent RM1 plan and the T&C that comes with the RM1 plan make me think of the sustainability.....(just 10 capsules)

just 10 capsules per month?......
then how to meet the promised "The Company undertakes to the iPartner that each of the Company Customers will purchase a minimum of 60 Arissto Coffee Capsules per month (“Minimum Purchase Target”)."

if just 10 capsules.....then "Commissions at the rate of 6.5% of the total value of the Arissto Coffee Capsules purchased by Company Customers." how??
(from::
https://arissto.com/my/ipartner-terms-conditions/

6.5% of 10 capsules = RM ....?
saw in the site.....1 capsule is RM3

you no read the post that was addressed for you ?....post 125
there is a link to answer you question
(tip: the 2nd link)

This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 30 2018, 09:38 PM

ok...then spend time waiting for responses instead lor

thanks for responding...appreciate your helps in clearing some doubt...
please advise concerns as in post 126 and 129

and also this machine breakdown (leaking, motherboard) coverage by the company...is it forever FREE or just for under the warranty period?
is there any charges for the workmanship/labour cost of repairs and how long does it takes to attend to repairs complaint?

do you have a repair service response policy benchmark statement in place in your company?

(heard that, from a Penang former agent)...the repair response is ###k too slow...until the husband had to ###k the receiver of the phone (according to the husband....it take weeks to attend to a repair that if, if ###ked almost daily)

because that is what i heard...may not be constuded to be true are are continuing to be happening.......thus i asked about the repair service response policy statement....

This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 29 2018, 01:24 PM

you posted..."Hi everyone... I'm a coffee ambassador ( CA ), n also an iPartner of Arissto Coffee."

thus would really appreciate you share openly in here for the benefits of other forummers too.

thanks

and I would believes, if, they are convinced of your responses here,...many would contact/PM you later

This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 29 2018, 01:45 PM

but there had been confirmed by others that the subscription fees of RM 2650 is non refundable .
btw has this RM2620 been increased?

What is it for?.....for the company to tue down an investor n to make more profits?
I thought agreement got mention can sell coffee machines...there is no mention can sell subscription fees...please tell where in the agreement got mention can sell subscription fees to other?
If and when one can sell that subsciption...must pay how many % to the company?
Why would others want to buy from you when they can buy from the company directly

this is from your PM message.....
but never seems to be able to provides the info I asked.....

"My phone numbers
01x xxx xxxxx

We every Monday will a class at NEP = New Environment Products ( Diamond Coral Water, Arissto coffee is under them )

Tonight I'm going, will reach around 8pm

NEP Holdings ( Malaysia ) Behead.
xxxxx.
xxxxxxxx
Taman Serdang Perdana,
43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor."

so today is Monday,...you will go there tonite to get the answers for us?

This post has been edited by yklooi: Oct 29 2018, 04:28 PM

thanks for responding and confirming some of my queries.
btw, I think notices and announcements are not allowed to be in this sections of the thread, there is a dedicated thread on notice and announcement section in lyn.
anyway, I hope the moderator does not see your post.
nice chatting...

from previous posted info by other forummers...
post 44, page 3

the guaranteed return they offer:

scenario A
Subscription 1 - RM2800
Coffee Machine - RM3750 (RM750 x 5 units)
promised return = 15% pa on RM3750
Return is at least RM562.50 per annum and is distributable on quarterly basis

how many capsule does it need to sell per year to get RM 562 returns?.
(a rough estimates of RM 8500 per year or (2833 capsules x RM3 ea)
this 2833 capsules per year is based on 5 machines, thus if based on per machine = 566 capsules per year
thus 566/12 = 47 capsules per month consumption per machine....
(a user of that machines would have to consume 47 capsule per month x RM3 ea = RM 141 of coffee per month.)

but if using current price & including the RM2650 subcription fee would be RM799 X 5 units = Rm 2650 + Rm 3995 = RM 6645 (this is the number that "should be" used in calculation based on actual ROI calculation)
the RM562 returns from an initial investment of RM6645 would be abt 8.5%

...possibililty or maybe, just maybe...
being in business for 3 yrs...accumulated many coffee machine contracts...then lease out as RM1 per month excluding the RM2 maintenance charges (the contract holders are paying for it)
with the RM1 machine plan, the user just need to buy RM21.60 per month (or just 10 capsule).....instead of the
"....The Company undertakes to the iPartner that each of the Company Customers will purchase a minimum of 60 Arissto Coffee Capsules per month (“Minimum Purchase Target”). as per link in post 77, page 4
i wonder how is the sustainability of the scheme would be later on...

just thinking...may not be Arissto's model....selling over price products then slowly returns to % earned to them?
just like i heard before...a gold investment scheme charging high spread, but them slowly returns some % as time passes by...until closed..

post 87 page 5....
"the entitlement is for 1 year....
the loan of machines to company customer is ONLY entitled to 1 year....after that is you makan sendiri?"

also post 44, page 4...there is no breakdown of usage per machine...thus the would be buyer of your contract does not know the per machine usage...

welcome to that club of investors....

This post has been edited by yklooi: Nov 1 2018, 12:48 PM