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post Sep 11 2018, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kopiride @ Sep 11 2018, 10:37 PM)
Well, just heard about it from relative. Guess what, came here to find if discussion already exists. Boommm! Lowyat has everything.

Even with 10% return, I think it's the best typical return. Better than epf. I am still considering whether to hope into this bandwagon.
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ask and tell us for info will you?
ask ... what will happens to the coffee machines that become faulty after few years?
does the investors needs to buy new one again?

more questions .... page 5, post 99

thanks

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post Sep 28 2018, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 28 2018, 12:08 PM)
I want to sign up as RM1 rental.
How to do this?
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googled and found this....hope it can provide some info...

https://arissto.com/my/rm1-coffeemachine-pr...istration-form/

To subscribe RM1 Coffee Machine Plan, all you have to do is place a minimum monthly standard order for one box (10 capsules) of ARISSTO Coffee Capsule with any valid credit card.
The plan comes with a non-binding contract, you can decide to cancel the order and return the coffee machine at any time with no extra or hidden charges.
https://arissto.com/my/rm1-coffee-machine-plan/


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post Sep 29 2018, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Hetna Ligiv @ Sep 29 2018, 12:55 AM)
Chey.. I see. So they earn from the capsules that you order.
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the member are paying RM799 for the machine + RM2 per month for the maintenance of the machine to be rented to you for RM1 per month.......

your RM 1 is not enough to cover the cost of maintenance, so they have to make abit from the capsule lah......

wondering how they will recoup the invested amount at 6.5% commision per capsule? hmm.gif



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post Sep 29 2018, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hetna Ligiv @ Sep 29 2018, 02:43 PM)
Yea I do understand they have to earn. I am just amused at their go-to-market strategy. Pretty creative... I mean end of the day, at least they have a legit product- Coffee machine that works and nice coffee powder.

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yes, and all paid for by the members thumbsup.gif

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post Oct 31 2018, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(LastManStanding99 @ Oct 30 2018, 09:33 AM)
The RM26xx  is non refundable but it can sale off after from the date you purchase on Arissto platform.
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Just to comes to have coffee. No worries nobody gonna put a knife on your neck.
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read the attachment in post #1
read clauses of that attachment
...the selling of the contract can be done AFTER 12 months from purchase of contract, on the Arissto platform (refer to 7c )
...the contract is for the coffee machine (refer to 5b and 7a)
....the selling price of the coffee machine CANNOT be cheaper than the official retail price of the machine....(refer to 7 Cii ),
....the subscription fees and the contract are 2 separate items....(refer to 5)
....thus the subscription fees is not a contract....thus not able to sell
....and it is non refundable (refer to post#6)

hmm.gif who would want to buy a 12 months old coffee machine from a reseller when they can get a brand new directly from Arissto that are of the same official retial price?
hmm.gif then again, who would buy a machine (abt RM799) + need to pay for monthly maintenance charges when they can rent a machine for RM1 monthly without maintenace cost?


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post Nov 1 2018, 12:22 PM

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thumbup.gif YEs,...Welcome to that club too.....

just a note of caution....
have some back up plan in case your relationship with your relatives, family members/friends that bought your machines that you are selling to them...turned sours

QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 29 2018, 12:22 PM)
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and also this machine breakdown (leaking, motherboard) coverage by the company...is it forever FREE or just for under the warranty period?
is there any charges for the workmanship/labour cost of repairs and how long does it takes to attend to repairs complaint?

do you have a repair service response policy benchmark statement in place in your company?

(heard that, from a Penang former agent)...the repair response is ###k too slow...until the husband had to ###k the receiver of the phone (according to the husband....it take weeks to attend to a repair that if, if ###ked almost daily)

because that is what i heard...may not be constuded to be true are are continuing to be happening.......thus i asked about the repair service response policy statement....
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QUOTE(LastManStanding99 @ Oct 29 2018, 12:57 PM)
Yes sometimes it may takes weeks for technician arrive you doorstep.
The fastest way, call up the agent who introduce you the coffee machine, he/she takes commissions, is part of he/she job.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 29 2018, 01:04 PM)
Thanks for confirming.......btw, it is the husband of that agent that told of the ##King slow responses....it was his wife that had to take the ###king criticisms from the users.
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QUOTE(LastManStanding99 @ Oct 29 2018, 01:40 PM)
I knows how it is... For the wife... Pain in the ass... Been there done that with others company.
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post Nov 1 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(LastManStanding99 @ Nov 1 2018, 02:09 PM)
Just to verify.
We are not selling the coffee machine to end user at all, we are renting it to end user. We are selling the capsule. You investment the coffee machine, we will do the selling capsule for you.
Exp:
U bought a condo, from a property agent, the agent helps u rent it out. If condo water leaking, etc... Nobody renting it. Who will be responsible ? The property agent rights ?
If u invest the coffee machine from Arissto company, we ( Arissto coffee ) will tales responsible, if the machine breaks down, not workings, motherboard burn, can't function, nobody rent it. U still get 15% back yearly * note that is 15%, yearly, NOT 15% monthly * if is 15% monthly, I can confirm is money game.

What is Ipartner ?
Ipartner is likes a sleeping partner.
U can choose to sleeping all the way, as long there's money comes in. Or u can looks for others to invest same as you.
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the "selling" in mentioned earlier is for selling the scheme....

there are 2 options in your scheme right?
1 is loan to company and there other one is not loan to company.. right?
loan to company you get 6.5% per capsule with a Minimum Target of 60 capsules per month.... right?
and this loan to the company is for 1 year only....right?
bcos....
the link to the t&c from post 77 page 4....
"the entitlement is for 1 year....
thus, the loan of machines to company customer is ONLY entitled to 1 year....after that is you makan sendiri?"

the other one is you, yourself loan to your own customers then you earn 10~20% per capsule...right?
for this self gained customers, you will be responsible for servicing, getting the supplies and other things your self ...right? and not the company right?
thus for this option, the customers (most probably relatives, family members, friends) would "yell" at who when the service are BAD including those that are not beyond the control of the contract holder but are controlled by the company...example repair services.....


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post Apr 4 2019, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Apr 4 2019, 05:58 PM)
The capsule berapa rm for one?
For latte/cappuccino type, how much does it cost to make a cup?
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while waiting for responses...
you can try check out Lazada or shopee...
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post Apr 15 2019, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(eddie chang @ Apr 15 2019, 08:46 AM)
I am looking for an Arissto agent. Please contact me. Thanks
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there are 3 position of agent, according to this.....
which one are you looking for specifically?

QUOTE(1 2018 @ 02:51 PM)
There's 3 status position
1) coffee ambassador CA
2) Ipartner
3) business partner

1) coffee ambassador the lowest rank of all. He/she will do sharing coffee, looks for new person/company who wants to rent coffee machine. Each capsule the person/company drinks he ( CA ) earns 0.10 sen.
The morn CA rent it out, the more he earns.

2) Ipartner is just invest the coffee machine and a license ( 1 license = 5 coffee machine min, 30 coffee machine max ) Do ipartner needs to sell coffee machine or coffee capsule ? No they don't unless ipartner wants to be CA too. Yearly get back min 15%. Even u knows who is renting it where is located, are ipartner gonna ask the person drink more ?
U have invested with Arissto ( we ) Aristto will takes care of it for u. ( Coffee machine breaks down....etc. Ipartner no needs to pay a sen for it, Arissto will handle it )

3) businesses partner, this unless u wants to do works, earn more n more, u will not be sleeping partner anymore, u must works for it.
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while waiting for specific value added responses,.....you can try read back 1 page......there is on with his telephone number posted....

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post Jul 1 2019, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(qvtt48 @ Jul 1 2019, 11:47 AM)
Hi MNet,

We using the AI trading system method in our investment link which will auto trade all cash funding in market.
All currency will trading in US currency which per account min RM 2k for min 1 month.

All you need to do is first step is you need to open account at FBS which you will be given link to register and the link is tag to
my AI trading investment link. Please prepare your IC photocopy which is require when opening account as well as your bank account no.

Please note at the end of investment earn, we need to profit sharing 40% to us from the ROI 5%-15% return so this is based on trust which we need you to be transfer the 40% to us.

If you are interested please let us know and we will guide you in details.
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40% Profit sharing of gains.....reasonable to encourage more profits

is there also LOSE Sharing?....will there be sharing of losses of 40% for investment losses too?.........to encourage prudent investment selection?

hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 1 2019, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(qvtt48 @ Jul 1 2019, 12:23 PM)
Every investment also have it own risk, just that whether the risk is high risk or low risk.
Our AI trading system lose risk is only 5%. Although is 5% risk, it wont be lose all your investment within a month but will maintenance
the earning to lose within a month and we will not charge any charge for the month.
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thanks for sharing...
thus it mean, if LOSE 5%, I lose 5%, BUT if WIN 10%, I win only 6%

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post Jul 1 2019, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(qvtt48 @ Jul 1 2019, 12:55 PM)
Simply say average every month you can get at lease min 5% ROI.
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for the benefits of readers following this.....
this average every month you can get at lease min 5% ROI..... is before or after deduction of the 40% for you?
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post Jul 7 2019, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ping2716 @ Jul 7 2019, 12:31 PM)
I'm interested to rent with rm 1, but I'm not interested to buy it as a business or investment. Any agent can contact me? Do I need to pay anything other than RM1 rental and rm22 capsules? I read thru the post, omg, it is complicated.
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if you cannot wait for them to contact you or if are in need of one...
can try post 198, page 10....there is one with a WhatsApp number
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post May 3 2020, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(noiseemunkee @ May 3 2020, 05:57 PM)
still going on well? is it easy to sell off your license and package?
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hmm.gif since many months back,...with this "RM1 Coffee Machine Plan!"
https://arissto.com/my/rm1-coffee-machine-plan/
I think those that had had been holding those expensive license and package are having a ...........time of their life

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post Jun 16 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jun 16 2021, 08:57 PM)
Ya, just knew this last month only.

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thanks for sharing,...i just liked the word "IF" company market value is x BILLION

also from the earlier link, there is this sentence "For the opportunity to obtain xxx% in value of waived commission through the transfer of ARISSTO Founder Personal Equities Share post-listing, I agree to restructure and waive xxx% of my iPartner Capsules commission for a period of 3 years, starting from the next commission payment date."

sort of giving up 3 years of income for "an opportunity" or "IF" the billions happens
judging from past Aristo investment scheme (like the Aristo Ipartner certificate scheme as in post 1),...what make this time to be a success? hmm.gif

maybe this site can shed some lights of the number of listed companies that made it to the Billion Ringgit Club
just check their financial reports and the asset they own to be at the BILLION.

https://brc.theedgemarkets.com/2020/index.php

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post Jul 19 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(WillLe @ Jul 19 2021, 12:10 PM)
but the company agent did promise can take out money within 45 days.

walao, if cannot take out money, it is a scam
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if the promise are made in black and white with the company letter head, signed and chopped,...then you got a case,
but if it just a verbal promises,...then vmad.gif
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post Jul 24 2021, 08:38 PM

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i wonder, ... hmm.gif
what and how to bring a case to complaint to the authority? ....
is it mentioned that "The company" guaranteed to get a buyer for your machines/contract?
as per mentioned in the image in post 1...

The RM1 monthly rental of the machines had been going on for the past many many months,....
https://arissto.com/my/arissto-rm1-coffee-plan/

i just wonder who will pay HUGE sum to buy the machines & the contract doh.gif

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post Jul 25 2021, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 25 2021, 02:52 AM)
The machine needs to pay 300, deposit??
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No idea,...
But I can only speculates, deposits are required, for the borrower may damage it or"cabut" with it...
Have to check with them to confirm the need for deposits n the amount to deposit.
Before you do that, you can try read that earlier provided link,...most probably the info about deposit is stated there together with the other T&C

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post Aug 24 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(WillLe @ Aug 24 2021, 10:03 AM)
why this company now still got face to launch so many programs while many ipartners need money at this critical covid moment!!?! mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

should make police report
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is the commission things guaranteed sure have in the contract agreement no matter how much Sales there are?
Can the company can says,..EMCO, not sales no commissions?
or not enough sales to make payable commission that are above the minimum to pay amount?
(sort of like, do the states in the agreement that no commission will be pay out if the value is less than (example) RM10?

or commission of value below the min payout value will be accumulated and will be pay out once reached above the min payout value?

it is an investment without fixed to pay amount,...can a police report helps? hmm.gif

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post Aug 24 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(WillLe @ Aug 24 2021, 10:26 AM)
the contract said guaranteed 15% commission per annum

the commision is from existing coffee machine users not from new sales

unless most of users stop using their machine

if no earning, the company just announce the investment has failed, but until now no news, no updates

police report just to give pressure and alert the society about this kind of 'investment'
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thumbsup.gif thanks for telling,
mind sharing,.
how long have you joined?
you got back 15%pa during this duration?

EMCO, many companies failed to have enough/no sales,...they could just be temporarily, for with more reopening of businesses, hopefully the sales can starts

i could be wrong, i think a police reports may not works,...for to the police it is an investment....unless you can substantiate in your report the criminal nature of the crime.....
delay or not paying few months of commission is not a crime, for they say 15%pa,...few months is not cummulative a year yet....
just my 2 cents

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