Since its a Monday, vote for your least favorite department!


Maybe you want to say why also?

Mane PR

guessed correctly.

hr lol.. if recruitment is done by the dept itself will actually get better employee since they can assess the candidate better.. like finance dept recruit candidate for finance position themselves they know better how to assess and who to recruit.. just that many companies dont do this because they want the dept to focus on their core job functions.. also many hr function nowadays are outsourced liao

HR and Admin leading the way.... but can't say I'm that I'm surprise

So many people condemn HR lol

9: government

Kecian HR people

actually, HR, Admin and purchasing can combine to 1 department lel

Take away hr, can a company still operate?
For mine, my salary payout and claim may face major crisis

most hated department:-
1. HR
2. Internal QA/Audit
3. Sales, especially those who like to over promise clients/customer

I'm surprise not a lot condemn IT / MIS department here. Maybe most /ktards are from this dept?

i wouldn't say useless but most disliked would have been more apt

that one accounts can do.
in fact most company have accounts approve/payout salary and claims.
hr just give the amount only.

What is APT?

Finance can always takeover

where is R&D?

To hire a sales guy, get the sales team leader to do the interview

To hire accounts, get the accs dept in charge to hire

HF know how to do sales meh? Know how to do accounts meh? If know then no nid to be HR liao lar NGOK
hence HR most redundant dept. Waste of resources.

This post has been edited by Lancewood: Jan 15 2018, 11:41 AM

got hr or no hr seems no difference to me, so i choose hr

not a lot of companies would have R&D. Only most of those Fortune 500 companies.

if your company got R&D then it might be the most important department.
this is useless or not, not bad or not.

what did R&D do to you?

if a company willing to invest in IT, admin will become rubbish

everything will become automated and everything will be proper documented even greater and smarter than human admin

HR, Finance, Legal, Admin and Legal all combine into one.

No need duplication of resources

hirano alot ppl say u useless
How?

Actuarial

Secretary is the most useless. Only service boss piap desire and gain personally. Brings no benefits to other staff.

eh... don't say sexy-tary la. They work 'hard' to earn a living! Can't live without them

why no choice for Internal Audit?

Admin or Accounting team can definitely handle the Payroll function

PE

HR

if insurance companies really need actuarial department.. and most banks need actuary to work in risk management

HR & admin for sure. No technical knowledge needed, tasks can be automated

where is
engineering
project
maintenance
document control
qa
qc
internal audit
logistic
warehousing
security
x
y
z

so account is the least hated dept? lots of leng lui??

CEO office....

Not really, my company have less than 50 people and boss form a R&D team to R&D on the products.

kurang pakai kebaya place.

Finance/accounting and marketing the lowest!

Then who's doing your payroll

Hr definitely

1,2,3 mostly technical dept.

IT useless?? why not ur company shutdown IT dept for 1 day, see still business as usual or nt,hahaha

HR duh

most HR depts don't do anything more complex than payroll. 99% of small companies the finance manager IS the HR dept, all of it

SME? 1 leg kick HR Admin Finance all bungkus

Purchasing either boss or boss kroni handle, HR/Accounts/Admin won't handle because 1) need operational knowledge and 2) sked fraud

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Jan 15 2018, 01:12 PM

No HR you might get late salary, poor bonus, cheap annual dinner, no amenities, KPI, no OL and many things other than getting poor monkeys which mostly approved from your team leader after first scan from HR. Everyday nightmare on unpaid SOCSO, EPF, late salary and income tax without HR.

This post has been edited by khk1987: Jan 15 2018, 01:17 PM

Large company hv few HR function. Recruitment, staffing, HRD, IR, ER, payroll etc.

lol finance can do mah.. payroll fall under companies expenditure, got accounting entries involved by right finance should deal with it.. it's more weird if hr is the one handling payroll

But HR doing the payroll lol

thats why accounting dept suits better handling those sosco, epf, income tax because they are freaking accountants who knows better the tax implication and compliance.. hr is ill-equipped to ensure payroll is handled correctly.. so many MFRS, IFRS and tax implication associated with payroll it's alarming if hr with no tax or accounting expertise handle it..

Got outsource company do the payroll in market

Where's internal audit?

Actually, I don't like accounting as they kira kaw kaw one. 1 cent ask this and that... Haha...

































Good for me!

HR at most do calculation only.
The one sending/issue payment are still finance.

HR not Union, where got they fight fot worker's right.
most of the time, they prioritise the company.

I said "most" and "small" didn't I?

anyway, IMHO even large companies also the HR add very little value to the company. Only in the biggest MNCs with international transfers and complex hiring requirements need a real HR.

shomuni (general affairs section 2)

it depends on the size/complexity of the company

for large companies, HR is definitely needed even though you hate them

I tot hr admin 1 dept lol

not useless, but most hated it is.

Poor bonus, cheap annual dinner.. Boy, you must be naive

Security department

HR their job shud be menjaga kebajikan pekerja

for salary accountant or finance can do the job better

if their job scope is to assist, nothing wrong. otherwise just idling away surfing porn web.

Wait, no one ever faced the forever-pusing legal department?

Asking for advice and they spin until no one knows what is the question.

Fire kaw them, accounts and admin can do it.


Ask yourself this, can a company go without admin or accounts? NO

Can a company make do without HR? A blardee yes.

ha, i picked HR and most ppl share the same opinion

sometimes quite jealous of HR ppl

cybertrooper ada elaun tahan cacimaki, elaun troll, elaun debate, elaun open tered, eh so many other more allowances la weh

rugi wor u didnt becum cybertrooper

No sales and marketing the rest of the departments eat grass only.

1. HR - Depend on company size: small:Admin can do. Big:need HR
2. FINANCE / ACCOUNTING - Important
3. MARKETING - Sales can do
4. SALES - important
5. IT / MIS - important
6. ADMIN - important but not that much
7. PURCHASING - depends on company nature
8. LEGAL - cannot outsource meh?

basically based on this poll, basically it mean finance/accounting department is the most important department in a company. Heart & soul.
No wonder most directors/CEO usually in finance/accounting background.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 15 2018, 02:52 PM

the poll shows as if labour law is non existence.. kek!

HR = finding more ways to screw the employees since 2000 BC...

KEK HR

PMO mana?

It means have fun to them not getting paid every month. All enquiries about labor law, resignation, leave encashment etc.. Ask to find on their own.

>inb4 management
owai0
Nearlee

Where is audit department ?

To u guys.. my friend work in bank HR. He say his job very important ok. Keep employees morale and help them progress in their career. He feel so proud of his job.

Hr is the most important department in an organisation
/k insap lah

Fu.....
Internal Audit department penting ok t.t
Help u rectify ur mistake mah
Imprive efficiency

oi ts... list not complete...

1. QA - attitude i also dunno what to say. always push solution finding to else where and only in action when got problem. pipur suggest early2 got problem duwwan do anything.. mafan kononya.
2. HR - dunno how to hire.
3. those department push others because got to meet sales when never put any buffers in their simulation or what ever.
4. those department that only care about dead lines but never plan properly. what call this r?
5. RND - alot companies do simple2 stuff also they call themselfs rnd?? fortune500 also wayang only in malaysia. kek then no take input from other dept. like sales, marketing, QA, manufacturing, etc. just dump problematic product and call it a day.


yes mana ini semua?

Qa qc i think

add so many for what?
already obvious HR wins.

Im not sure, but where I used to work, boss sexretary office has the smexiest OL followed by dept, finance and HR.

lawyers.

the root of all headaches.

HR Recruiters, because they always filter candidates in order:
1) Looks (preferably female between ages 25 to 29)
2) Degree
3) Experience

IF like that, I also can filter la, don't need them to help me filter candidates.

This post has been edited by Flaming_lion: Jan 16 2018, 12:39 AM

HR. Their main responsibility is just to take care of their bosses gugbird and bontot. If you think HR is to protect employees, go find a mirror, look at yourself then laugh loud loud

+1 to HR.

Lol. The poll got hack is it, so much hatred

results shows that lot's of /k/ actually work in chinaman or chinaman styled companies

Kesian kita orang HR. Speaker betul kerja dengan amanah dan dedikasi sampai hati you all kata HR teruk.

HR can outsource these days. So quite redundant . All company I joined , HR dept does not have 1 important thing which is "Innovation" . Most of them only do repetitive work. Filing, filing and filing, then go imigresen to do visa for expats. I have never seen someone who can innovate to automate these repetitive work , using computerize system link to government agencies or someone to even propose it. A lot of companies have HR helpdesk these days, but none have implemented a computerized kiosk with all common FAQ so that it can be automated instead of a human answering the same question over and over again. Like what is my employee benefit ? How do I bring my spouse over from another country since I'm an expat ?

Occupational Health Safety dept to me is the most useless to me but not in the list. So I vote HR.

This post has been edited by k!nex: Jan 16 2018, 02:28 AM

i think everything is useful there

my dept R&D

everyday goyang kaki

Ok, seems like HR is the top of the list but in most companies, the top person in HR, ie. HR director etc, is one of the most important person as all the top level management including CEOs will need to rely the conditions of their contract on the HR director and the board etc.

U kan dah jadi lecturer?

HR recruiter lg useless. Never bother to screen out candidate first. Direct bg application pada hire dept. Alasan 'You guys more expert in this'. Then wth you are here for?
My father last time sound his HR manager 'we are the one that pay your salary'. You guys not an asset but only a liability.

Those saying payroll no one do, finance/accounting dept can easily takeover. In fact can put legal and admin under their watch too

Ayam ex-company hr it fin acc dept all shake leg only.

SinzChan