Like most people here on this forum, I oppose BN rule if only because it is a good principle to switch out ruling parties every once in a while. However I already know who the candidate for my area will be for GE14. The area is currently under DAP and MCA will be contesting it. This candidate has personally helped me a lot over the past year, in particular in dealing with a particular branch of government. I didn't ask for the help and the person freely offered the assistance to me and some others in the same situation as myself because he said that we were the victims of an injustice. His assistance has really made a big difference. Through him, I have also gained a few new contacts in MCA and, holy shit, do they have a lot of bad things to say about DAP.

Anyway he will never know whether or not I actually vote for him and I doubt my vote will make a difference anyway. So it's really a personal ethical dilemma. I would feel bad if I smiled at him, shook his hand and accepted his help but then voted for DAP anyway. What would you do in my place? Am I a macai now if I vote MCA?

You mean vote for BN? yes. go ahead. let Malaysians suffer for the next 5 years.

i think looking at the bigger picture is more important

MCA has taken Malaysian for a ride for took long!!!!
Chinese zodiac now missing dog and pig also no noise from them?!?!
So it is pay back time!
Please continue to shake his hand, accepted his help and money but then voted for DAP anyway!

If you already feel that your vote would not make much of a difference in the final outcome then I don't see anything wrong in voting for him.

Especially if you feel like you have a moral code to uphold and need to repay him back somehow.

That's why it's not wrong to believe that people that still voting for MCA are those who have personal gains that benefits personally only.

This post has been edited by MiLKTea: Jan 5 2018, 12:37 PM

MCA's argument, conveyed to me directly, is that there is zero chance of BN actually losing control of the Federal Government in GE14. If UMNO is threatened, they will just ally with PAS and PAS certainly will be more willing to have a BN government than a PH government. Since PH can't win power, then it is better to vote MCA to have influence in government.

So tell me, do you think that PH can win control of the Federal Government is a three-way fight with BN and PAS?

laugh me die! What influence?! Only knows when to bark when the master demands!

I think it's an interesting question anyway. Do you vote for a candidate just because of the party without knowing anything about that person in particular? When voting, do you prioritize the national stage or whether or not a candidate can help you in your local area?

Vote for MCA. Time for DAP is up. They have shown for the past 8 years that they do not have any prinsips and is willing to do whatever it takes to get power. Just look at how they run Penang lol. I regret until this day voting for a DAP clown as an MP.

vote BN and MCA for peace and stable country

bn win n bn win 2/3 that is a big different ....
if they win, maybe like last GE but lose popularity vote ... then bn very "prihatin" one..
if they win 2/3, oppo no power to oppose ...bn say gst naik 20% u also must pay ...
why u wanna let u be in this situation ??? ...kasi bn tarik your hidung and walk ??
btw who is the gomen is still is umno member or ex umno member .... why need to jilat ?? except u wanna become anjing like MCA ...
MCA got help u but remember .... u got pay GST and tax to gomen ....
politician is to help the people, no matter u vote them or not ..... dont "spoil" them

I don't think this is true. The person in question currently holds internal MCA posts but is not a government servant and does not hold any government posts. I don't think he gets any money from MCA currently. His entire motivation is to raise his public profile so that he can be a successful candidate for MP.

any MCA member get paid... where the money come from ?? ...drop from sky ah ??
wisma mca in jalan ampang, whose money ?? mca control thestar, where money come from ??
and all those cawangan cawangan in different state n kampung kampung area .... who pay ??
if no money, why wanna becum a candidate ??
politic in malaysia is all about money ........not rakyat ....
but sometimes bn n oppo fight we got some gula gula
if either one party win 2/3, kasi u tahi u also must eat ...

yes vote for mca

Yet TS don't dare to name him

u mean suffer forever ....dr m can only help this time ...i do wish him a long life but the fact is hes really old oredi ...dun have many 5 yrs to help oppo ..

This is my personal view

For state seats, especially for Selangor and Penang, I would urge all of you, especially those who believe in democracy to vote for BN

PH in Selangor and Penang or beginning to act like the previous party that they criticised. They are beginning to act arrogant and like they are better than the peasants that voted for them and taking the anti government sentiments for granted.

Let BN take back Selangor and Penang and you will see both BN and PH working hard to retain or win back in GE 15.

For the Federal sears, undi is sulit... So vote who you believe in.

This post has been edited by cfa28: Jan 5 2018, 03:37 PM

if like that , bn win 2/3 then how ??

create another mahatir

State is okay... Not Parliament

I really hope LGE lose his State Seat

u just make simple thing becomesusah.

u vote dap or mca is ok.make sure pas don't win.

not last time u said u're indonesian meh?

deswai he come here to support the bugis warrior

haha.. i like your thinking... now spread it out among the general population.. start viral this..

if i can micromanage the votes

i'd say PH: 60 - 40 :BN for the parliamentary seats distribution, nothing more to PH, I don't want them to have any advantage in stupid motions

for the state level just give back all states to BN

After so many years school teachers still no enough..... Laf die me lor..... Not my standard...

But we know who are u going to vote liao.... Just go ahead lor.... Is your choice....

if you are eligible to vote means you are mature. if you are mature, you can vote consciously.

I would vote for that MCA guy

what kind of peace and stable country?

Bro, from your statement, it seem you just malu to face him even if you voted DAP.
I tell you no issue, just vote for DAP if you want to, and when you see him, just raise your hand and tell him i support you kao kao bro.... please govern our state again.....

Not like he know about it

What kind of influence MCA has?

Unless you’re talking about business influence in getting gomen contract then yeah la, that is what most businessmen I know do.

Else I don’t see MCA having any influence at all.

Well the MCA guy did give you connections. So on an individual basis you should vote for MCA la since you benefited a lot from that person and his connection with the government. I don't think you're willing to lose it right? You just answered your own question.

Don't have this kind of mindset. Every vote counts.

This post has been edited by Divou: Jan 5 2018, 04:33 PM

But we always say that politicians are deceitful and dishonest. Does this justify ordinary people behaving just like them?

I think in general on big, important controversial issues, yes, MCA has little influence. But on a local level, depending on who is running the place, I think the situation may be different. Also, I would not be too casual about dismissing MCA just because they are in the background and we take it for granted that they are always there. If, for for example, MCA were to quit BN, do you think TAR college and university would still be allowed to continue operating?

Only in corrupt countries you can say that statement.

TAR college and universities have underwent MQA inspection on their course before getting approved to function as education institution. Whichever party in power should not simply shut down education institutions that are following rules and regulations.

Unless you know MQA simply2 pass TAR's inspection and then new government found out, of course shut down la. Who want uni that produce shit students?

No, cause you gain no real benefit from it

i will vote mca if they quit bn right now

serious.

coz finally they will show they have a spine, not just wagging tail at their master all the time

bullshit

My kampung alot chinese angry with the 40k bangla fake accusition which made ppl voted dap. But after got ppls vote "batang hidung pun tak nampak " until now . Only MCA working regardless n now our kampung become popular tourist destination. Vote for those who work for the ppl n not those who tok kok then mia till next ge

Bn will continue to rule federal.

Mca will still be a lapdog without teeth.

If the dap ppl in the current administration is shit and songlap etc the just vote the mca.

If both also doing their job then vote whoever you want.

For pas matter, doesn't matter pas ally bn, because hadi is already doing that anyway. They will become another mca mic gerakan, no teeth to do any shit and only can listen to umno once join the pack.

In the end of the day ask yourself this, do you still want BN to rule another 60 years?

If yes then undilah MCA

You see. Look at the Party as a whole.

What difference can it make holistically. You very know MCA is UMNO's goon.

Don't waste a vote seriously. WE cant afford another election to be under BN. Kindly please sacrifice your emotional feeling for MCA. Think of a better country and then repay that friend of yours.

Obvious BN cybertrooper posting such question.

lel

For DUN seat, vote for those who you think can benefit your area. Federal seat vote for those who you think can make the country better.

dah tu , MCA not even relevent nowadays. you want vote mca mai vote for mca loh, majority will still vote against

Is your kampung full of murals at the alleys?

+1 prioritize who will always helps your area.

LKS/LGE also kowtow to Mahathir, no?

this GE is nothing special.
umno will get more parlimen seat because 3 corner.
plus some voter don't balik kg vote bcoz lost hope to opp party.

lge fked your ass?

so where is the running dog and lazy pig go ?

Jom ABU

That's because people vote for DAP. If people vote for MCA, DAP will come doing the job.

even LGE lose but there will be another pakatan will replace him

You from seremban?

vote for PH because you know they will fight hard to keep the coalition in place, if it breaks well we can have another election. BN would break up by then thus more smaller coalition will need to made

ts, u know a bn mp in parliament is the most useless position ever right? if najib says approved all must vote approved...
Even umno has more backbone than mca, uknow... after 1mdb, a part of umno split up... but not even one mca dare make a sound...
if ustill wannna vote for a enuch... be my guest

everyone doubt their vote make any difference end up no vote

KEK

compared to woof woof, really no fight la

master say shut up they really shut up

Is he DUN or Parliament? Or both? By personal conscience you should vote for him, especially if he's DUN. He will also know who you voted in the coming GE. don't believe, go and ask him personally.

Then again why would u want a pm or finance minister who doesn't know simple math?



This post has been edited by hotjake: Jan 5 2018, 09:31 PM

Yes.

Dah makan dedak diam jelah setan

please vote mca.

yes.
2008 GE.
that time mahafiraun vs paklah.

pfffttt. just vote whomever you want. it's not like your one vote gonna change the whole thing anyway.

Not exactly. MCA is firm on the issue of ruu 355.

On the other hand, the DAP guy who opposed hillside development in Penang will be booted out by the Lim Dynasty...

I currently live in Seremban but my voting district remains my place of birth.

Why are you asking this shill infested forum?
Have your own opinion instead of being a sheep.

I started this thread in Serious Kopitiam but it seems that one of the mods rather mischievously moved it here.

In fact, I think I will close it now. It wasn't my intention to invite non serious replies and I think it's unfair of the mods to quietly move the thread like this.

This post has been edited by wankongyew: Jan 5 2018, 10:47 PM