I think it's worth it to go down there to get a PS3, if it's really selling at RM1.5k. Here in KL the cheapest is RM1850 just the console without any games. Toll and petrol will only cost around RM200 to and fro, still save RM150. If go with friends can share the toll and petrol, can even save more...

Here also is the same, if rosak then gone. All the warranties given from the shops are BS. All the consoles sold here are parallel imports, so there are no any official warranties from Sony and normally the warranty is from the shops (means they will try to repair it themselves) but they don't yet how to repair PS3.

Who ever beleive this warranty crap given by those shops in Sg Wang or wherever shops, I really feel sorry for them.

LOL....Bernard is always seek for my help regarding X360 problems. I helped him too many times already. If I reveal here many ppl will sure terkezut wan....huhuhuuhuhuh

Non XXX also need to pay money to send back to SG. So no point saying warranty.

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Added on June 12, 2007, 3:53 pmNot 3ROD issues but other issues.....you'll be surprise what those shops can do....hahahahaha

This post has been edited by tot31: Jun 12 2007, 03:53 PM

Hahahah..if that is the case sure ppl berebut buy X360 from him. Let all the secrets kept with me, since he is really a nice guy.

For me warranty means you don't need to pay any single cent. So if a shop promise to give 1 yr warranty (not just 1 month or 3 months 1-1 exchange) means if anything happens to my machine and when I send it back to the shop, I as the consumer doen't has to pay anything. So whatever bullcrap reasons those shops are telling that I've to pay just to get my warranty, it's not a warranty.

My point here is if JB can sell cheap consoles than KL where I can save a few hundred bucks (after considering toll + fuel), I would go down there and buy from there. In fact if I go there with 2 other people and share all the expenses among 3 of us, it would be more cost saving. I don't give any damn about any warranty as I know all warranties from any shops are BS.

Warranty definitin taken from WIKIPEDIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warranty



If a shop promised to give 1 yr warranty, it means that within the warranty period if anything happens to the good/item, the consumer shouldn't pay any single cent to the shop to get his good/item to be repaired,exchanged etc.

It's good if a shop can give during the first 3 months of the warranty, a 1-1 exchange but when the period of that 1-1 exchange is over and the item is still covered within the 1 year warranty, that shop shouldn't ask for any extra payment wether it would be 1cent, 10cents, 50cents, RM1, Rm25, RM100 or RM250 for whatever crap reason. It should be FREE OF CHARGE. That's is a real WARRANTY should be.

We're talking about WARRANTY here not any other service. As for my X-Clamp service does not even relevant to the WARRANTY issue here. Since you've brought it up, those poor 3ROD victims out there has a choice wether to fork out RM250 to pay to get their dearly console to be repaired during that so called WARRANTY that have been given by the shop that've promised to them when they first bought it or get it quickly done with RM100 (I offered) without wasting anytime (trying to tinker what to do or wether the steps are right and risking the console to be totally useless). If they feel that they can DIY it themselves then it's up to them.

As for going to JB to get much cheaper price (the price difference is RM200-RM300) is not a waste of time (for me and the other of my friends). Wether you get it here in KL or JB or any other place, if any shop promise any warranty, I'll take it as a bull full of crap.

What I'm trying to say here is, all the shops here are not being honest on the warranty issue. All this while the consumers thought that when anything should happen to their consoles, they will just take it back to the shop to get it repaired with no extra cost but it's totally a different story when that day happens.

The problem here is the shoppers mostly are snot transparent enough about their so called 'warranties'. Usually there are always a catch behind cheap price, in this case, its expensive and NO CLEAR CUT WARRANTRY..

Have you been to electronic shop that offer electrical goods, that for example a fridge that costs RM1k, comes in with 2 years of warranty, but the shooper informs the customer if he adds another RM100, the warranty extended to 5 years, any breakdowns, they will even go to your house and pick the fridge up, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. How about that for a warranty?

Unfortunately thats not happening here in Malaysia if you buy any console. Simple case, a console supposed to come with all authentic accessories, since when do we have to add another RM100 for a STANDARD ORIGINAL PACKED IN CONTROLLER? its like we are being raped anally without us realizing it.

Loyalty is one thing.Its a subjective matter. Loyalty and smart consumerism don't go side by side. If we are loyal, we cannot see any forgein cars on the road, only Protons. But thats not happening. I can understand you want to be loyal, your choice. But for me personally, loyalty don't pay the bills. I have to find the best bargain, thats LOGICAL and SENSIBLE. Winners? the consumers.


For the xclamp addition, you even know why those people charge that price? Have you witnessed the process using your two eyes? If you have not, then its useless for me to explain how hard and difficult the process is, and I personally aim for perfection. and I'll try my best not to let my customers down.Thats a testimonial thats speaks for itself. I know a lot of folks would want to pay me to do the thing, and play happily after that, without worriying will the shop cover the 3ROD thing ever again. Winners? the consumers.Again.

People want the best offer, but too lazy to walk around. Thats why people like POWEREDGE succeeds!

I am not talking about any shops in particular. Thats why I don't write about Sg Wang or GH. For me, they are all the same, shops. The only difference is, some of the shops DO INFORM THE BUYERS on the limited 'warranty', meaning only free labor not spare parts bla bla bla.
What i am trying to stress is, in Malaysia, there is NO SUCH THING AS 100% Warranty in Malaysia for consoles. Period. GH's method is applaudable, but look at the pricing of its other items. check and balance. :: singapore, indon, the fact is there, there is no such thing as official warranty in malaysia. period. simple solution, during purchase, the shopper must be transparent. 100%. no hiding the dust under the rug. As we both know, 360 is a ticking time bomb.

I am looking for cheaper alternatives. is that a crime? can't we suggest cheaper alternatives if we happen to come accross by them? i thought the community is about sharing the best deals etc. those stuffs i got during consoul 07, i PAID for them (everybody agreed lunch sucks only dinner on the last day can be considered acceptable) and the coke in 7-11 or tesco thing, simple, one is open 24/7 and one buys stocks in large amounts of quantity. different business structures right? what they have in similarity? Satisfaction. I can always go and replace my can of coke that i bought in midnite if i find its piss inside, rather than coke itself in 7-11, no questions asked, and same thing in tesco. not getting it in gaming world. if i, as a consumer, brought in my machine since the whole gutt is bending to oblivion, i do not need to switch it on in the shop, plug in everything bla bla bla. i should just tell the shopper, dude, my machine is fcuked, i wanna exchange. thats it. if the shop wants to check, they can check for themselves, no need to involve me. oh ya, thats the standard practice they have in the states. because they have OFFICIAL WARRANTY. here, nada, zilch.



what turns you on, doesn't mean it does the same for me. meaning, its apples and oranges. depends. whats hassle to you, may not be the same for me.

the point that i am streesing is, i want to share cheaper alternatives. as simple as that. anything wrong?or against forum rules? no need to bash somebody that found cheaper alternatives. consumers have the right to compare and comment. if the shop is good enough, he is not afraid by it. in fact, he would take all the comments as suggestions, not kill off the competition. last time i checked, this forum ain't sponsored by certain gaming shops.

dude, thats an ad. as simple as that.
do you remember when i quoted that i got my FM2 LE at rm160+,instead of people ordering the same exact same thing at rm190? remeber how you rose to the occassion and said djin's shop dont sell pirated stuff, need to support since they did consul bla bla bla...remember? we both have rights to post something that is not illegal,but why did you said i was braggin around with my purchase? i simply offered alternative to the gamers there. 160 and 190. u do the math. is it ori? Yes.Is it the same package?Yes. So?is it so hard to admit and see other people got the same thing for less? Is it? I didnt even mention the gameshop that i bought it from as i am being curteous, since i see the same face taking preorder there, so i was thinking not to spoil the business. and the first bolded sentence, ARe YOU SURE JOHN? 100% ORI? and the second bolded sentence, I bash any unfair prices, regardless from where its from. GH, bernard, whatever.any direct hit from me to GH? but then again, if the shoe fits...


i was stating the truth. and i got a response.flame me i dont care, its not like i depend on this forum for rice if you are even active in PS section, you would know the history of RM210 modhcip from China, and how it becase only RM100 today, (that is also waay to expensive) you dont know? I dont mean to brag, but i was one of the Pioneers in PSClinic section. how many problems that we have solved because of sony's shoddy worksmanship, problems that if you go to a shop they will just charge you 50 bucks. little do they know, it can be done using a screwdriver, in 5 mins.so inshort, i know what i am talking and posting about. its people who are afraid of the truth that complains. rest of the community? they choose to keep silent, but they know who is right

what do you mean by sensitive John?the truth?what agenda i can have with GH? they didnt cheat me (obviously since i always study before any purchase), in fact, i think during consul time, that was the longest time spent NEAR GH. come on John, i have more things to worry about than videogames. its good this thread is here, if you know what i mean


Nope. GH have obligation to do the xclamps to the customers, I dont. DIY, Pay, up to gamers. if confident enuff, DIY.nobody stopping them. Not confident, sent to people, not necassarily me. a lot of people can do it.



Very sure. Why? Because I read. and i have few pals in the states as well. do you know they even take psps INSIDE THE BOX (without even opening it first)


like i said, i have no personal agendas. what i am not satisfied with, i will post in the forums DIRECTLY, no hypocracy here. i am only promoting cheaper original solutions for the gamers. I dont care wether they like it or not, because i am a gamer, i want to play with a lot of people. But personally John, you are a moderator, you are supposed to be unbiased, not taking sides. I think you know this. I am too a moderator in another forum,http://www.console-exploits.com/forums/ (formerly was ps2hd.com, an international forum) so i know what and how mods supposed to be. Being a mod is more than locking and editing threads,that, i leave you to think about it. Truth is truth. Sooner or later people will know.


I've made my points regarding warranty issues and I'm addressing this warranty issues to all the shops here in Malaysia (not only on a particular shop). I stand on my opinion and if others have their own then it's up to them.

We are free to express what our feelings are. If anyone is satisfied to a particular shop so be it.

The main topic of this thread is to make price comparison between KL and Singapore (JB can be included). I found that PS3 price selling at JB is way more cheaper than here. I'm getting one so I must seek the best price for it. I've been offered from RM1780 - RM1850 here and I found that in JB PS3s are selling at RM1500 - RM1750. 3 of my friends are also interested on getting one.

So if 4 of us can go there and buy from there, it's really a cost saving for us. The expenses can be divided into 4 of us (the max cost will be RM200), so divided by 4, each of us only will fork out extra RM50. Time is not a factor here, money is.

Since one of the forumer brought up the warranty issue, I've expressed what was in my mind. So it's not really an issue for me and my other friends.

So I challenge any shops here in KL that can give the same price as JB. So stop whining about any shop being defamed and start selling things at a reasonable price.

Cheerios....have a nice weekend folks.

dude, that shoot first questions later always fail.
look at what happen to US in Vietnam, in Iraq,

put down your gun... the truth i meant was..THEY ARE CHEAPER ORIGINAL GAMES THAT ARE AVALIABLE IN THIS FORUM whats the connection about the sig, bla bla bla...honk honk.

thats another story,i thought we are talking about consumerism here
(although i do have 7 original titles, not 100%, but at least i am trying, you know lar, my parents dont give me money anymore, i am giving to them )

[queue]cheaper original games from the MAINSTREAM CHOICE[/queue]Thats why comprehension is important. Delete my sig? I dont care, sometimes, for certain people its this little-little things that we think we can control that makes us feels good. Go on, knock yourself up l

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I don't think GH is obligate for xclamp repair but they do have that option available .

[i]here is the car, if you happen to drive and it explodes, you are on your own.or we can send it to the mechanics, but its gonna cost ya another 100 bucks..what? your payments just now? no they dont cover it. warranty? this is the warranty lar, but have to pay to get the warranty..whats so hard to understand laaarrr!! by the way, those mineral waters i handed just now, rm 1.50 each. u want cheaper? go to TESCO or 711.


for the bolded sentence:
OMG, what do you think this 3 pages of thread all about?

i was never out of topic, i was giving information regarding a CHEAPER PRICE THAT I FOUND. other than that, all direct response from forummers regarding the price (regrets perhaps)
anything wrong in the uber RULZ and REGULATIONZ? If there is, pls, do point it out to me.

I am not a shop owner, i dont tell sugar coated stories to the forummers.I live in the real, cold, brutal world, no pink bunnies, no unicorns. I dont sell things that i give warranty, GH does. It supposed to have after sales service,u know..like..er...a..shop?so if i bought a console that fcuks up after like 3,4 weeks..i dont care how GH do it, they have to make sure i will be gaming again, free.Xclamps, return to Sg, i dont care. warranty is warranty. I send my console, i get it back in perfect condition. Play. happy.=GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. personally i dont mind paying a bit more IF the customer service is good, that means no cheating, no hidden cost bla bla bla.

I think i have presented a very good argument here (thanks for the support, you guys know who you are)like it or not, people are waking up, realizing that are shoppers selling ORI games at lower price.The time of enlighment is upon us thanks for the chat. i am confident the readers here have the maturity and the intelligence to carefully dissect and analize my points and arguments.

Its nice to fight my on war without proxies, means i do know what the hell i m arguing about

This post has been edited by tot31: Jun 16 2007, 05:10 PM