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post Dec 15 2017, 03:41 PM, updated 2y ago

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this is great! all the best! how much do you weigh currently? and how many times a week do you plan to go to the gym?

i suggest also getting a tape measure so that you can keep track of waist, etc... it can serve a really good motivation sometimes.
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Hi bro, regarding your questions to change program.
I don't think it will make much difference as both of the program are very similar.
There are some better program that you can switch to though.
One thing about SL that I don't like is that it focus too much on lower body so I switched to Phrak's GSLP but Ivysaur program looks pretty fun too.
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QUOTE(DeAct @ Dec 27 2017, 07:15 AM)
Okay, thanks for the reply smile.gif

I did SL a couple of runs before. I couldn't quite figure out why my upper body is terribly weak. Rn, I feel like I'm about to stall for OHP alr. It's only 25kg ffs.
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Ah, yeah, I had that too, if you want to balance it out you gotta add some accessories for upper body at the end of your session.
ANW, this thread might be helpful for you, cheer
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4...lifts_starting/
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Thanks for the link, Ryo. What's your experience with ^?
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As you might've read on my journal, I started out with SL 5*5.
At first it was ok when the weights is still light but as it gets heavier, I tend to spend more time resting.
This makes the whole session lasting longer than it should and I have no time to add in any accessories exercises if I wanted to.
I didn't really make any gain on my upper body and my friends only started to notice my bicep getting bigger when I switched to GSLP.
It's a more balanced program IMO.
You will really start to hate squat when the weight gets heavier.
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QUOTE(DeAct @ Jan 31 2018, 11:05 AM)

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there seems to be a little buttwink. dont ask me how to solve it because i never had to overcome it laugh.gif google it and u should find more answers than u need. laugh.gif

and is that running shoes bro? one bad moment and u could be out of gym for a long time...
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QUOTE(DeAct @ Feb 1 2018, 12:55 PM)
Haha. Yes, that's seems to be the culprit for discomfort ! Two other issues that I should pay attention to is guiding the movement more with my hips and slowing down on the eccentric part of the movement.

Yeah, those are running shoes but with minimal cushion and a flat sole. I've used those for sometime now. I know that a hard sole is ideal but I've had no issues with it till now.
I used to Squat with one that has thick cushion to 'absorb the impact from running' with a rounded sole (by Sketchers). Boy am I going to remember that mistake. It's great for running but I find it terrible for casual use. I almost tripped on multiple occasions whilst walking because I 'kicked' the floor.
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try also squeeze your glutes at the top of the rep, much like u do for deadlift. that reset should put u in better position.

if u're ok with the shoes then i guess no harm done. but as soon as u find it in the way of your training ditch it and go barefooted temporarily if u have to.
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bro i'm feeling the same pain on my right side of glutes near hip..can feel the tightness when standing or walking. Sitting time no prob. How u overcome this? is this due to poor form? wearing gym belt can solve it?
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Your overhead press doesn't seem to tally when compared to the rest of your lifts. Perhaps you should tweak and figure out the form further....
I'm guessing you can actually press much more than the current numbers.

Your DL is also oddly lower than your squat when usually it is the other way around for most people.... do you have any existing hip/lower back issues that stop you from DL more?
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For OHP;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KesQVGoYLso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBmiBqp-AI

As for deadlift, it depends on you actually. I personally do it wrongly.
I'm not too bothered with rounding... upper back slightly rounding is ok, lower back not so.
I don't engage the lats. Hook grip and pinching the armpits will cover that.
Stiffen my core and breath in, leg press motion to initiate the deadlift... and then hip extension to lock out. There is almost no lower back involved.

Lowering the deadlift is where I feel the most on the lower back muscle development.
What do you mean you let the bar go when you complete a rep? You let go and drop the bar? If yes, do lower the bar instead.. it helps with some development.

Try to find a free day in the gym where you can experiment different combination of grip width and feet width on the deadlift.
Try to deadlift barefooted/socks only..... or with flat shoes.
Try hybrid, sumo.... I assume you are doing conventional DL.
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As for programs, stalling, progressing in weights... it depends on how aggressive you want to be.

I follow 5/3/1 modified to suit my time and style.

Keep in mind if you are not aiming for powerlifting competition.... getting paid to lift higher weights, etc. There is really no need to progress too quickly.
For example... adding 2.5kg to your total in upper body lifts in 1 or 2 months is still progress no matter how slow that may feel.
Bonus in taking your sweet time to progress would be a lot lower risk of injury and lower chances of a burnout/plateau.

With 5/3/1... progress can be measured by maxing reps at your 80~90% instead of focusing on 100%/1 rep max.
For example; If you can hit 10 reps at 80%, you can probably do 5~7 reps at 90%.
And if you are already doing those rep ranges.... your 100%/1 rep max will automatically go up... without you even testing for 1 rep max.

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As for OHP squeeze your glutes, just pinch and close up your buttocks. Like nobody can pry open your butt... lol.

For deadlift, best to start early in hook grip and get over the pain and awkwardness faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIG4lgKqwRw
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I’m under the impression that as long as my lifts maintains as I’m losing weight(fat) or my lifts increase without sacrificing form, I’m making progress. Do correct me if I’m wrong.
Yeah if you're dropping weight but maintaining your lifts I'd say that is considered progress.

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You got a point about not rushing to progress lowering the risk of burnout/injury. I’ll take note of this. If I do the exact same weights the same way for 2-3 weeks am I wasting my time or do I still grow?
Well.. you don't actually do the same weights for weeks per say. You are working on different set/rep ranges on varying percentages of your maximum lift.
But even with the same weight, an increase of reps or decrease of rest time between sets is also progress.

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How long does it take for the body to adapt?
As long as your body needs which is specific to you.... your liftstyle, your current health levels, etc.

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I’ll try that for OHP, I saw Rippetoe’s vid before. I was afraid that hip movement will somewhat lead to injury. That’s the reason I didn’t dare to try it before.
Start with just the bar or low weights to experiment and get the hang of it.

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Are you still running 5/3/1?
Yeah, I'm just entering the 3rd cycle next week.

If you're keen in the future, just scan through his book and then use the following excel sheet;
http://violentzen.com/training/strength-tr...t-workout-info/
Generally... for each major lifts there are 3 warm-up sets followed by 3 work sets.
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Okay, thank you. =D That programme looks decent. No more squatting and DL on the same day. Thank god for that.
You can squat and DL on the same day if you want. 5/3/1 might feel underwhelming in the beginning.
You may feel as if you're doing too little or finish the workout session too fast. I do all four lifts on the same day.

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How many cycles are you expected to run it for?
For about 7-8 cycles. Each cycle is a month. People usually begin to plateau at that point. If not, then just keep running it I guess.

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How’s your progress on the programme so far? Are you gaining much strength/mass ?
So far strength gains is on track with the programme (2.5kg per month for upper body lifts and 5kg for lower body).
Although for squat and bench feels like it might plateau very soon.... not related to programming, just that I suck at those sweat.gif
I didn't have mass/muscle gains in mind when hitting the gym... so I guess not much for myself.
If you want some hypertrophy with 5/3/1 then just include some solid accessory work after the main lifts.

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Damn, I just saw someone at the gym DL’d 160kg with impressive form <3
You'll get there... and beyond. Just a matter of time.
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4 lifts on the same day? O.O How many times do you train per week?
5/3/1 can feel quite easy, especially if you're just starting it. I think even easier if you're coming from SL5x5.

I workout 3 to 5 days a week, depending on how busy I am.
If I did each main lifts twice already for the week, I'll be doing other stuff on the remaining days I visit the gym.

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I’m curious, how much are you currently lifting. I won’t be surprised to hear a 3 or 4 plate squat and DL.
Errrr... no no no no no no no not even close to 3 plates.... actually plus minus, almost same as your level.
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What is your warm up sets like?

Actually compared to me you are quite strong + endurance. If I do SL 5x5 work sets like that it would murder me.
I'd probably start failing by 2nd/3rd set and just give up.

Anyways, saw your DL videos. Bar path seems off, more so on the way down.
You seem to be bracing the bar/weight on your lap and let it slide downwards.

Also saw your squat videos(view from behind). I can't comment on it. Bar is set high but hips and leg is low bar squat motion.
Another guy at my gym squats exactly like you... with 3+ plates each side for reps rclxub.gif

Finally, please consider changing shoes for your lifts. Flat sole... preferably hard sole that don't compress easily.
Can see that your shoes are rolling and not giving you a solid platform + stability to execute squats efficiently.
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Curious on how you track your workouts. For example the above, 40 kg Squat for 10 reps, then remaining 3 sets of 5 at 80kg bodyweight?

 

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