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Lushtree
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 Jan 2 2018, 05:19 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(raymond82 @ Jan 1 2018, 05:35 PM) very powerful AP, can support up to 500 connection(without auth), but really expensive  introduce another brand, xclaim, subsidiary of ruckus, aiming entry-level enterprise market It's true the Ruckus AP will cost more compare to consumer type Wifi router or AP, however it offer extensive signal coverage and greater flexibility, its perfectly fine with large house like 5000+ spft. The Unleashed version AP can act as a controller, no need to attack to AP controller like Cisco Aironet does. The XClaim is not the same as Ruckus's BeamFlex, never used before. |
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jio
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Jan 2 2018, 06:41 PM
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Ruckus Unleashed AP is a good choice if you have the budget. XClaim is not worth considering as Ruckus R310 is not much different in price than XClaim XI-3. Ruckus BeamFlex and other enterprise AP with similar active directional antenna array is so much better than those omni directional APs in crowded environment. Much better than wasting money on fugly behemoth white elephant tri-band wifi router. Some rants » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
I hope those idiot consumers will stop buying consumer high powered wifi router and having wishful thinking of using single wifi router/AP to cover the entire home and still demanding the full bandwidth from every corner of their home.
1. Range is not the issue, but rather the obstacles in between.
2. 1 additional layer of wall block the signal is enough to reduce the signal strength by more than 10dBm, which is more than what a high power AP had over a normal AP.
3. High transmit power means nothing if the AP cannot the receive the signal from the client due to low receive sensitivity.
4. You will need good signal strength in order for the wifi to communicate at higher speed mode. Even if you can receive some signal from the other corner end of your house, you cannot get good speed if the signal strength/quality is bad.
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raymond82
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Jan 2 2018, 10:49 PM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(jio @ Jan 2 2018, 06:41 PM) Ruckus Unleashed AP is a good choice if you have the budget. XClaim is not worth considering as Ruckus R310 is not much different in price than XClaim XI-3. Ruckus BeamFlex and other enterprise AP with similar active directional antenna array is so much better than those omni directional APs in crowded environment. Much better than wasting money on fugly behemoth white elephant tri-band wifi router. Some rants » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
I hope those idiot consumers will stop buying consumer high powered wifi router and having wishful thinking of using single wifi router/AP to cover the entire home and still demanding the full bandwidth from every corner of their home.
1. Range is not the issue, but rather the obstacles in between.
2. 1 additional layer of wall block the signal is enough to reduce the signal strength by more than 10dBm, which is more than what a high power AP had over a normal AP.
3. High transmit power means nothing if the AP cannot the receive the signal from the client due to low receive sensitivity.
4. You will need good signal strength in order for the wifi to communicate at higher speed mode. Even if you can receive some signal from the other corner end of your house, you cannot get good speed if the signal strength/quality is bad.
 Xclaim Xi-3 249USD  Rukus R500 550USD yes, you point out the true This post has been edited by raymond82: Jan 2 2018, 11:00 PM |
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dk999
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Sep 8 2018, 09:02 PM
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Want to tumpang, I have a 3000 sqft office using 2 consumer wifi router as ap.
Currently there are many drop connections the wifi will get disconnected and devices cannot get reconnected.
What's the recommendation to cater to an office setting? I think consumers routers not suitable for such application.
Area is small and unobstructed but about 50 to 100 devices connected. Any idea what hardware needed? Using a good router perhaps? What is recommended.
Used for printer connection n internet usage
This post has been edited by dk999: Sep 8 2018, 09:03 PM
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SilentVampire
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Sep 8 2018, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(dk999 @ Sep 8 2018, 09:02 PM) Want to tumpang, I have a 3000 sqft office using 2 consumer wifi router as ap. Currently there are many drop connections the wifi will get disconnected and devices cannot get reconnected. What's the recommendation to cater to an office setting? I think consumers routers not suitable for such application. Area is small and unobstructed but about 50 to 100 devices connected. Any idea what hardware needed? Using a good router perhaps? What is recommended. Used for printer connection n internet usage Of course it can't support, as consumer routers are not powerful enough for too many devices. You need enterprise routers and AP, either Mikrotik or Ubiquiti or Ruckus. Get a networking company to do it if you are unsure. You will want to implement WPA-Enterprise, if possible, with VLAN segmentation, for security reasons. |
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dk999
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Sep 8 2018, 09:48 PM
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If for low cost? Which is the suggested hardware? Are rm 1-2k routers good enough or should use those business celling ap?
This post has been edited by dk999: Sep 8 2018, 09:51 PM
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k town shit
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Nov 7 2020, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(FourClover @ Dec 10 2017, 12:53 PM) Good day to all, After what seemed like forever I've finally convinced TM to have their cables laid and I'll get fibre soon  As per title above, I'm looking to cover 5000 sqft worth of usable land and one router's definitely not going to cut it. I've searched a few solutions online and I'm getting results that direct me to Google WiFi, Orbi, AmpliFi, Eero, and Linksys but I'm not sure if they're compatible with UniFi or if they're compatible in Malaysia at all much less the technical jargon that distances their form of transmission whether they're repeaters/extenders/separate nodes. I'm hoping that there's someone who's had experience in dealing with this since looking up mesh WiFi in N&B section didn't turn up results on the information I'm seeking. Cheers! I also have this issue in my house, due to two corner walls between the Router and my room, my wifi signal is kind of weak, I'm also looking for a Mesh rather than Extender, I heard Mesh is better as it doesn't divide the LAN into 2, but the cost of it is expensive. Have you found the best solution to your house? Could u please recommend one? |
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pl95077
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Nov 7 2020, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(k town shit @ Nov 7 2020, 01:50 AM) I also have this issue in my house, due to two corner walls between the Router and my room, my wifi signal is kind of weak, I'm also looking for a Mesh rather than Extender, I heard Mesh is better as it doesn't divide the LAN into 2, but the cost of it is expensive. Have you found the best solution to your house? Could u please recommend one? Maybe you can share more, such as your house size, broadband speed.... |
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SUSceo684
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Nov 8 2020, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(dk999 @ Sep 8 2018, 09:02 PM) Want to tumpang, I have a 3000 sqft office using 2 consumer wifi router as ap. Currently there are many drop connections the wifi will get disconnected and devices cannot get reconnected. What's the recommendation to cater to an office setting? I think consumers routers not suitable for such application. Area is small and unobstructed but about 50 to 100 devices connected. Any idea what hardware needed? Using a good router perhaps? What is recommended. Used for printer connection n internet usage One consumer router (intended for home use) is designed for average use of 5-10 devices. More than that it will become overloaded and bog down something like using a kancil to pull a TEU container. This is way more than the designed usage. Enterprise AP (with the crab legs) comes with better features, 3x3 or 4x4 MIMO and the CPU that is able to cater for all the many simultaneous clients. Aruba (by HP) will be the minimum standard, Cisco solution is good but costs more. This post has been edited by ceo684: Nov 8 2020, 12:03 AM |
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k town shit
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Nov 8 2020, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(pl95077 @ Nov 7 2020, 01:11 PM) Maybe you can share more, such as your house size, broadband speed.... I'm using that one from Time Fibre 100 mbps; my Condo is about 1200 sq ft. My Route is located on the left side of my house, while my working room is on the Right Side of my house, this is a Single Floor  I heard that Mesh Network will reduce the Network speed, my friend said this is the downside of choosing Mesh Network, but I'm not sure I work from home nowadays, sometimes the Signal fall to 30% only, when I'm online meeting, the call quality isn't good |
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afif92
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Nov 8 2020, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(k town shit @ Nov 8 2020, 06:54 PM) I'm using that one from Time Fibre 100 mbps; my Condo is about 1200 sq ft. My Route is located on the left side of my house, while my working room is on the Right Side of my house, this is a Single Floor I heard that Mesh Network will reduce the Network speed, my friend said this is the downside of choosing Mesh Network, but I'm not sure I work from home nowadays, sometimes the Signal fall to 30% only, when I'm online meeting, the call quality isn't good But still Mesh is better if don't want to use LAN cable. The configuration like the location of both node and router must be improved to get better speed and latency. |
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k town shit
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Nov 9 2020, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(afif92 @ Nov 8 2020, 09:39 PM) But still Mesh is better if don't want to use LAN cable. The configuration like the location of both node and router must be improved to get better speed and latency. Will Mesh network reduce the speed (Bandwidth) to my Laptop? Let's say I'm having 100 mbps of internet speed, if my laptop connected to the Mesh Network, I'll only get 50 mbps only... I heard this from my friend, but I'm not sure how true is it |
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goldfries
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Nov 9 2020, 09:47 PM
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40K Club
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QUOTE(k town shit @ Nov 9 2020, 09:38 PM) Will Mesh network reduce the speed (Bandwidth) to my Laptop? Let's say I'm having 100 mbps of internet speed, if my laptop connected to the Mesh Network, I'll only get 50 mbps only... I heard this from my friend, but I'm not sure how true is it Can't generalize mesh like that, see the specs also. TP-Link Deco X60 for example has Wi-Fi 6 and I tested, practically my whole house full speed. I tried using other cheaper Mesh before, the coverage is good but speed was dismal. Still better relying than sole router when some areas are dead. |
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afif92
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Nov 10 2020, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(k town shit @ Nov 9 2020, 09:38 PM) Will Mesh network reduce the speed (Bandwidth) to my Laptop? Let's say I'm having 100 mbps of internet speed, if my laptop connected to the Mesh Network, I'll only get 50 mbps only... I heard this from my friend, but I'm not sure how true is it if 100Mbps, you can easily max out if mesh wifi have dedicated backhaul. If no backhaul, you also can easily achieved max speed but ensure that not much users connected at that time. For example, I'm using Asus XT8, if not much user currently using wifi, I can easily achieved 500Mbps just by using AC 2x2 device. Note: The speedtest speed also affected by different speedtest server. So, you could try a few until satisfied. |
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