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Sand Dust
post Oct 15 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 15 2017, 01:32 PM)
Read the term and conditions. Some bank cover fully all outstanding cukai, maintenance fees, sinking fund, fire insurance and late charges penalty. Usually foreign bank like Hong Leong, SCB, Citibank very generous and will cover all.

AmBank cover partial. Only maintenance fees will cover. Sinking fund and cukai need to own pay.
PBB cover the outstanding with a limit cap base on the value of the property.

Utilities bill you need to pay. TNB, SYABAS, Indah Water. There are ways to check.

Your 100k statement is wrong. It is too general. Mostly will be the same cost involve like buying from subsale. Here I put down the cost:
1. 10% dp of the final winning price. rest 90% using loan or (70% loan + cash)
2. Legal fees for DOA & Loan Agreement. (lelong no S&P so legal cost will be slightly lower compare to buying from subsale).
3. Stamp duty (MOT & Loan).
4. Valuation fees.
5. Outstanding utilities bill.
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Still confuse if you apply new account for electric, water and undah water, you still need to pay off the previous outstanding bills?

Sand Dust
post Oct 16 2017, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(jcts @ Oct 15 2017, 11:26 PM)
You don't have to pay the agent a single cent, the auction bank will pay them. They just assist you on checking your document and make sure you qualify for the bid. They get nothing if you lose the bid.
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What the agent will provide? Site visit, utilities check, infor sharing etc?
Sand Dust
post Oct 17 2017, 10:27 PM

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The force is too dark

If this would be more transparent, I believe pricing anomalies will be much less.


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post Oct 29 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 28 2017, 10:47 AM)
Fully furnished lelong unit. What are the odds?
Before entering the house after getting the authorization, wont they need to at least inform the owner? Then why the owner will keep their belonging there? Also the door is safety door, quite surprise they can actually able to open it (seem easily)
Sand Dust
post Nov 29 2017, 03:22 PM

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I dont believe there is much bargain in auction with the risks associated with it, esp those in better location. Esp for non-bumi units with more bidders involved.

Any bank valuation that start the bid from, you can already probably push for 10-20% lower from desperate buyers in the existing market. In addition you got to see what you going to buy and location that you like.

Most likely I am wrong smile.gif Good luck.

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post Jan 16 2018, 03:46 PM

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Pls dont believe on bank valuation entirely... The valuation could have been done several years ago when property at the peak - correct me if I am wrong.

Must ask, why it is lelong in the first place? Owner could have rent/ sell out to avoid foreclosure.

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Sand Dust
post Feb 14 2018, 10:15 PM

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Again the so call Bank valuation price on first bid are mostly inflated.

You thought you have 30% discount on round four but in reality it is probably much less. High cash outlay, no viewing opportunities make auction risky.

Do your homework, alot, and not only look at the disount from so call MV.
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post Feb 20 2018, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Feb 16 2018, 06:33 PM)
dont simply say and pretend dumb here, read the tread, people are catching dead chicken here for those auction after VP. below launching price and can view because the dead chicken very 'Fresh'......Fresh dead chicken to catch, don't miss the opportunities.

do your homework before comment.
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Dear Friend,

The thread is "Auction Properties" and not "Auction Properties that newly VP"

I am sharing my view and experience. If this annoy you, not sure why, please ignore me.
Sand Dust
post Feb 20 2018, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Feb 20 2018, 10:29 PM)
just check auction unit shared here, all are in great discount, which one not real, which is inflated price, simply comment without fact...

just  want to let you know what is reality and stop dreaming...
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Again my comments remind people to be cautious of the first round price, which suppose to be the so called market value of the said property.

But if one do more homework this is not neessarily true.

I do dream and at the same time do my best to understand the reality by reading more. Auction property is great but do your homework to minimize the risk.

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post Jun 27 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 26 2018, 11:02 PM)
Any registration done with "agent" is not counted, is not valid actually.
Real actual registration need to be done 30 mins before the auction start, that's the usual cut off time.
You need to submit in your banker cheque in.

If you are still in doubt, then just dont submit the cheque in, that's all.
Don't worry you wont be black listed coz you havent even register at all in actual fact.
p/s: unless is an online bidding. current new trend now. then yes, you must register before hand to entitle to bid via online.
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If already registered for auction, and you are the single bidder but do not bid, is this possible? Any penalty?
Sand Dust
post Jan 18 2019, 09:17 PM

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Will be blacklisted?

Attended once, one bidder and he didn’t bid. The auctioner keep asking him are you sure? Then auctioner asked lawyers behind take notes

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post Jan 19 2019, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jan 18 2019, 10:06 PM)
malaysia style, change mind last minutes ma. he wanna ask for the cheque back but cant. die die must wait bidding process finish only can take it back.
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Rather I think he just want to make sure in case any other bidders there he is also in the race..
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post Jan 19 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 19 2019, 05:28 PM)
Indicate loan interest will soon be over 5%.
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Dont see how the country can afford interest hike esp current poor economic situation

Esp US just plan to hike 2 times this year.

So my bet this year wont be any hike.
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post Feb 13 2019, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Feb 10 2019, 12:30 AM)
No correct answer. Refer to the proclamation of sales. All depending on the bank. But general answer:

1. Most banks will cover fully those outstanding.
2. Some banks will cover partial.
3. Some banks will not cover. 
4. Also got case when the reserve price drop to too low, the bank update the POS from fully cover to no cover those outstanding.
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If non strata landed property, and bank not covering then who should cover the maintenance fee? Legally I guess the new buyer will not required to pay?

A bit worry to get into one, too many grey area.
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post Feb 14 2019, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Feb 14 2019, 06:31 AM)
Someone has to pay.

The bank can be generous if the auction price can cover the outstanding loan or if the bank wants to quickly dispose off after several failed auctions.

The borrower / current owner ...  not likely cause not willing to spend more money or no money.

So left the winner at the auction. Bid only if willing to pay if bank is not paying.

Dont forget the outstanding tnb,  water and sewerage bills too.
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Thanks. Just want to know on the legality of who should be paying. For strata titles, yes looks like buyer will need to pay. For individual title, it doesnt seen buyer will have to have legally. Correct?


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post Feb 14 2019, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Feb 14 2019, 10:16 AM)
Heyyy....u bought it at wayyyy below MV...bayar laaaa  tongue.gif
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Too many grey area before deciding to buy one.. smile.gif
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post Feb 23 2019, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Learjet35 @ Feb 23 2019, 09:54 PM)
Depends on what type of property also. I did this before.
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Online bidding will hopefully remove this?
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post Mar 21 2019, 01:52 PM

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Really persistent ex-house owner.

For the fact that he dare to do so means that MY really need a much tougher law enforcement so that everyone will abide by laws.

 

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