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icemanfx
post Dec 23 2018, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 23 2018, 08:38 AM)
your explanation is greatly departure from your early statement....that banker doesn't want to face the borroower.

restructure two times don't have to face the borrower? in person? everything done thru wassup face time and email?
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Unker, bank has many departments. Before the account become npl, is handle by branch; where restructuring and face time is possible. After the account is transferred to legal/recovery/special assets department, few if any of staff from these department would meet borrower unless the amount is substantial.

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post Dec 23 2018, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 23 2018, 10:09 AM)
Unker, bank has many departments. Before the account become npl, is handle by branch; where restructuring and face time is possible. After the account is transferred to legal/recovery/special assets department, few if any of staff from these department would meet borrower unless the amount is substantial.
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To be fair you have a shifting stand. Some times you refer to the branch as the bank. And sometimes you refer to the department which gives to loan as the bank. You said npl loan has zero impact to the bank, and "bank" is not interested in optimizing recovering the bad debt. That is obviously a piece meal interpretation of what you considered as "the bank".
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post Dec 23 2018, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 10:42 AM)
To be fair you have a shifting stand. Some times you refer to the branch as the bank. And sometimes you refer to the department which gives to loan as the bank. You said npl loan has zero impact to the bank, and "bank" is not interested in optimizing recovering the bad debt. That is obviously a piece meal interpretation of what you considered as "the bank".
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Where did I say npl had zero impact to the bank?

More like you are either confused or have no idea of time frame, stages, procedure or different department.

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post Dec 23 2018, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 23 2018, 11:06 AM)
Where did I say npl had zero impact to the bank?

More like you are either confused or have no idea of time frame, stages, procedure or different department.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 22 2018, 08:04 PM)
If borrower couldn't cough out enough will end up in bankruptcy. If borrower ended up in bankruptcy, it has zero impact on bank's balance sheet as provision is already provided when borrower is in default/npl.

After the property is auctioned/sold, it is the new owner's interest and efforts to evict the occupants.

On newly vped auction units, occupants are likely tenants.
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icemanfx
post Dec 23 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 11:24 AM)
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You neglected the time frame/stages. Provision is provided when the loan first become npl. Auction and bankruptcy proceeding occur after npl/provision is provided.

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post Dec 23 2018, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 23 2018, 11:35 AM)
You neglected the time frame/stages. Provision is provided when the loan first become npl. Auction and bankruptcy proceeding occur after npl/provision is provided.
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Not I neglected it. You neglected it rather.

Why you post something about it has zero impact without mentioning the time frame and what not ?

We are seeing the bank as one entity, we are never concerned about how one department of the bank sees it.
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post Dec 23 2018, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 12:14 PM)
Not I neglected it. You neglected it rather.

Why you post something about it has zero impact without mentioning the time frame and what not ?

We are seeing the bank as one entity, we are never concerned about how one department of the bank sees it.
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Bank may be is one entity but it's various departments play different roles. Bank policy/sop is set for reasons.

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post Dec 23 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 12:14 PM)
Not I neglected it. You neglected it rather.

Why you post something about it has zero impact without mentioning the time frame and what not ?

We are seeing the bank as one entity, we are never concerned about how one department of the bank sees it.
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this icy fella, when she made a mistake, she would rather keep quiet one....never ONCE I read a statement from her that said 'sorry I have made a mistake'.

instead she will pusing pusing story until everyone kepala pening and then she claimed victorious.

I also malas nak discuss further....with her..... devil.gif


but i gave this to her....not many female forumers that engage discussion with majority male forumers here. it takes knowledge and gut, even thought in cyber world we should be seeing each person as asexual, not male or female.


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post Dec 23 2018, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2018, 12:14 PM)
Not I neglected it. You neglected it rather.

Why you post something about it has zero impact without mentioning the time frame and what not ?

We are seeing the bank as one entity, we are never concerned about how one department of the bank sees it.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 23 2018, 01:29 PM)
this icy fella, when she made a mistake, she would rather keep quiet one....never ONCE I read a statement from her that said 'sorry I have made a mistake'.

instead she will pusing pusing story until everyone kepala pening and then she claimed victorious.

I also malas nak discuss further....with her..... devil.gif
but i gave this to her....not many female forumers that engage discussion with majority male forumers here. it takes knowledge and gut, even thought in cyber world we should be seeing each person as asexual, not male or female.
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Basically it is view from different perspective.

Not that I pusing; more like the other has a narrow vision, got kepala pening from turning his neck too hard/much.
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post Dec 26 2018, 10:14 AM

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Another case study to share.

Boulevard Service Apartment @ Jalan Kuching.
Owner bought developer units (meaning after project completed then only buy from developer). No idea how big is the rebate or cash back gain here.
Sign agreement on June 2018.

Less than 6 months down the road, this unit already enter lelong market.

S&P price for unit 21-10 is at RM724,300.
Refer: http://www.summerfield.com.my/wp-content/u...-05-05-2017.pdf

Lelong price now is at 486k.
Refer: http://auctions.com.my/auctiondetails.aspx?ID=106701


Assuming owner took 90% loan, he is standing to lose out more than 150k in less than 6 months time only. And provided got bidder at 486k. High possibility nil bidder at this pricing.
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post Dec 26 2018, 09:33 PM

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Sure got cash rebate wan...
AskarPerang
post Dec 26 2018, 10:46 PM

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Here is yet another case study to share.
1 year ago, owner bought this OUG Parklane unit via subsale at 500k. No idea this unit come ID renovated fully furnish or this is mark up to max bank valuation price.

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Today this unit in the auction market at 500k (first auction) starting since Oct 18.
Now at 405k (third auction): http://auctions.com.my/auctiondetails.aspx?ID=106700

Price will certainly drop to 3xxK before attracting any bidders.
Owner stand to lose out 150+k in just 1 year.


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post Dec 27 2018, 06:06 AM

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one year ago parklane prices already dropped so much jor..

from the bricks report, obviously some hand and leg had been made to buy at 500k.

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post Dec 27 2018, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 26 2018, 10:46 PM)
Here is yet another case study to share.
1 year ago, owner bought this OUG Parklane unit via subsale at 500k. No idea this unit come ID renovated fully furnish or this is mark up to max bank valuation price.

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Today this unit in the auction market at 500k (first auction) starting since Oct 18.
Now at 405k (third auction): http://auctions.com.my/auctiondetails.aspx?ID=106700

Price will certainly drop to 3xxK before attracting any bidders.
Owner stand to lose out 150+k in just 1 year.
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The valuer reported $500k is deserved to be black listed by banks.

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seikoho1
post Dec 27 2018, 11:53 AM

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saw 1 SPA recently just 339k only
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post Dec 27 2018, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(seikoho1 @ Dec 27 2018, 11:53 AM)
saw 1 SPA recently just 339k only
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Property price is probably the least transparent among investment assets. Spa price could be highly inflated.
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post Dec 27 2018, 05:29 PM

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Just sharing lelong unit sold at more than 30% below launching price.
And yet come fully furnish.
What luck.

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 21 2018, 05:40 PM)
No taker once again. Drop to below 400k now.
Super cheap to get.

02-19-03, Block 2, Verdi Residence, Symphony Hills
Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 383,819🔥🔥
Freehold
990 sqft
Auction:  28-Sep-2018 (Fri)
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 1 2018, 11:36 PM)
Unit sold at reserve price 384k. Single bidder only.
En Z won.


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post Dec 28 2018, 03:33 PM

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Klang low cost single storey house.
Reserve price 40k.
Attracted 26 bidders.



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post Dec 28 2018, 03:43 PM

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May I know the procedure of becoming a bidder?
Can we get back our bid and how much is the processing fees if any?
Is there a website where we can know more info to join as bidder?

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post Dec 28 2018, 04:49 PM

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rm150k for chicken cage (as the lady said...haha)..

far too overpriced...….


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