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Nov 30 2018, 11:24 AM
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Dec 1 2018, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 10 2018, 03:40 PM) Luxury series lelong unit available at cheap price. Attracted 10 bidders. C-6-2, Tower C, The Troika, No. 19, Persiaran KLCC Reserve price: 🔥🔥RM 1,636,650🔥🔥 Freehold 2250 sqft Auction : Early Dec Vacant unit. Already with strata title. Sold at 1.84M, higher than last month reserve price. |
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Dec 1 2018, 10:25 PM
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This is how you win a lelong unit in style when you literally got unlimited budget.
No ceiling / cap limit for him. Strata title issued. Vacant unit. P-02-07, 2nd Floor, Seri Maya Condominium (Phase 1) Reserve price 🔥🔥RM422,820🔥🔥 1179 sqft, 1 Car park Freehold QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 1 2018, 03:40 PM) Unit sold at 504k just now. Video of the bid: Higher than last month reserve price. The owner got 2 units there. Suspect still own staying in the other unit and let this vacant unit go via force sale / lelong. Still make some profit out of it. p/s: Last month reserve price was 488k. Go ask him why last month didnt bid and able to win without challenge. |
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Dec 6 2018, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(mhs87 @ Nov 18 2018, 10:43 PM) No bidder yet again. New price as below. For bumi only. C1-11-5, Block C1, Cyberia Smarthomes Reserve price 🔥🔥RM266,900🔥🔥 2266 sqft Freehold Auction: 21-Dec-2018 (Fri) *Unit occupied by tenant. |
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Dec 7 2018, 11:36 AM
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Dec 7 2018, 11:42 AM
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Affordable homes now slowly entering the lelong market.
Investors not qualify to apply RUMAHWIP, RUMAH SELANGORKU, PR1MA, PPA1M? Need to find proxy, use other ppl name to apply? Now worry no more. You can legally collect stock up those affordable houses via the lelong market. All under your name. A-21-16, Residensi Pandanmas (RUMAHWIP) Reserve price: 🔥🔥RM 280,000🔥🔥 Leasehold 850 sqft (no balcony unit), 1 car park Auction : 13-Dec-18 (Thursday) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « C-33A-07, Block C, Residensi Pandanmas 2 (RUMAHWIP) Reserve price 🔥🔥RM350,000🔥🔥 900 sqft Facing swimming pool & pandanmas 1 block Leasehold Auction: 21-Dec-2018 (Fri) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A2-17-03, Residensi PR1MA Alam Damai Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 390,000🔥🔥 Leasehold 995 sqft Auction: 28-Dec-2018 (Fri) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A-06-23A, 6th Floor, Block A, Masreca 19 (RUMAH SELANGORKU) Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 290,000🔥🔥 850 sqft Freehold Auction: 28-Dec-2018 (Fri) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « B-3A-10, Pangsapuri Asteria, Bandar Parklands (RUMAH SELANGORKU) Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 207,000🔥🔥 Freehold 850 sqft Auction: 19-Dec-2018 (Wed) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ......more to come. This post has been edited by AskarPerang: Dec 10 2018, 11:12 AM |
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Dec 7 2018, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 7 2018, 01:10 PM) Maybe there is a condition that the buyers have to still fulfill the whatever requirement ? Nope. Anyone can buy from auction. Otherwise this will be an obvious loophole. Will the auction buyers still be subjected to rules such as cannot resell within x number of years .... But if the unit is a bumi lot, will still follow bumi quota. This is the only available loophole investors can collect low cost property in their portfolio. And they are willing to bid above market price in lelong. Now RUMAHWIP, RUMAH SELANGORKU, PR1MA, PPA1M will join this loophole. Coz under normal subsale, they are not qualify to buy. Future reselling of the property back again got no info. Need to check with local authority. Bank just want to recover back their loss. |
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Dec 7 2018, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(tometoto @ Dec 7 2018, 01:30 PM) sorry i dont really get 1. bumi lot lelong. only bumi buyer can buy. 1. bumi lot lelong. bumi buyer can bumi lelong ynit? 2. rumahwip, ppim, prima if bumi lot. only bumi kat buy lelong unit. but they can sell to bumi only. the only good thing it can sell at any time. it is correct? 2. future reselling of the property back again got no info. need to check with local authority. |
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Dec 10 2018, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(nbi @ Dec 10 2018, 04:15 PM) hi sifu, Leasehold property,auction property non-bumi lot but bumi owner, leasehold. can bid? transfer title, land office ok? @AskarPerang depending auction conducted where: NON LACA (high court / land office) meaning individual strata title completed. non bumi can buy from bumi owner (non bumi lot unit). LACA (public auction) meaning still under master title or individual strata title yet to complete (beware the need to do double transfer) depend on the developer. need to check with developer. coz developer hold the title. developer can still convert bumi owner unit into bumi lot if they suddenly oversell the project to non bumi and fail to meet the bumi quota. for some project, maybe developer already paid up the penalty to the authority. meaning majority units already being converted into open unit. no longer got bumi quota. So conclusion, only developer holds the answer to your question if the lelong unit fall under this case. |
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Dec 14 2018, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Lance XIII @ Dec 14 2018, 09:48 AM) I would say is the same like chasing out your non-paying-rental-tenant. No experience going through legal court process yet. As I would say is just easy to deal direct with the owner/tenant occupying the house. Unless you really face such case keras kepala (stubborn to the max ppl) example as below: |
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Dec 14 2018, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 14 2018, 11:54 AM) I am not suggesting you do it to the tenant. Tenant, if any, should still be bound by lease tenancy agreement. As i mention earlier, is the same chasing out non-paying-rent-tenant and chasing out ex-owner still occupying the house. I am talking about evicting the former owner. If you waste 6 months plus lawyers fees and what not, it is more than 5k. The legal process is the same. |
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Dec 16 2018, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2018, 09:50 AM) technically you still need a police report n court injunction to evict the trepassers. There are some service apartment (commercial land title, water under the management control) imposing water cut & access card blocking to units with outstanding of xxx amount. and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant. Never heard of any cases / report of the management body being sued yet by doing such action. |
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Dec 16 2018, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 16 2018, 12:10 PM) There is a difference. Utility suppliers have a standard procedure for cutting supply if bill is outstanding for x amount or x months. Eg TNB has to send numerous letters before that can cut the electricity. My example clearly stated water for service apartment under the management control. Here you are short circuiting the procedure. Eg you cut his supply due to him not paying rental. The notice and other conditions where the supplies is cut is not fully served yet. Yes notice or warning will be served to the unit of course before hand to settle the outstanding bill. |
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Dec 16 2018, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 16 2018, 12:39 PM) So comparing your example versus you cut the electricity of trespasser/former owner/non rental paying tenant, there is a difference, you had not served the notice. Please you are talking about other stuff here. Please read back first the point of discussion, which is regarding this statement: and knowingly terminate the utilities when there are people in the premises will only attract more lawsuits from either previious owner or tenant. and my question: There are some service apartment (commercial land title, water under the management control) imposing water cut & access card blocking to units with outstanding of xxx amount. Never heard of any cases / report of the management body being sued yet by doing such action. and I added: My example clearly stated water for service apartment under the management control. Yes notice or warning will be served to the unit of course before hand to settle the outstanding bill. |
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Dec 16 2018, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 16 2018, 01:15 PM) I think the bold is taken too literally and thus, out of context. In conclusion as mention above, some service apartment imposing this strict method. Yes they are the utility company in this context here as water is under their control. BEANCOUNTER's reply was made against someone coming out of the idea of immediately wanting to cut the electricity supply upon having the title under his name. So there are other conditions not fully spelt out in the bold. In the first place, landlord cutting supply is not the same as utility companies cutting supply. Do we as landlord already know exactly what conditions must be met first before cutting the supply, knowing there is someone in the house ? Outstanding bill/ notice of course being issued out to all units as usual. Yes units still with occupants residing inside. Warning of water disconnect and access card barring on XX date will be posted in the lift / notice board. So yes to your question. Water will be cut even with ppl inside. Usually reconnection /reactivate will be charged as well. Some if rented out their units. Tenant pay water bill promptly but still water will be cut coz the landlord didnt settle the maintenance fees. However didnt heard of any cases that any management got sue by doing that yet. |
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Dec 16 2018, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 16 2018, 04:39 PM) taiko there was one case in Malaysia, last few years.....landlord cut the electricity supply with policeman present, I think. That's why my example is true genuine few service apartment practising cutting access of water and barring access card of residents. Yes ppl still staying inside. and the tenant claimed that his sick father required some electricity medical device for life support (or something similar). it made it to the news. don't know anyone got sue boh…. ask any lawyers, they will advise you to FOLLOW THE LAW. Water and Electricity are two most important supplies for habitants in the abode. So far no case being sued towards the management by doing that. |
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Dec 18 2018, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(Adorable @ Dec 17 2018, 09:16 PM) I would say current trend is getting virgin condition newly completed unit at maybe 30% or more below 4-5 years ago launching price. Some lelong unit from project 2 years or more after completion, you can still get such virgin unit. Just need effort to find. |
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Dec 19 2018, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE(BooYa @ Dec 18 2018, 10:58 AM) Theres one unit at KL traders square 940sqf , reserve price @ 378k. Very likely both units will not have any bidder. and another one at residensi lakeville 978sqf @ 486k any of this 2 unit a good buy? December end of year is dry season. Less ppl interested in hunting for houses. Go holidays / prepare next year early year commitment etc. Another 10% drop and re-auction next year time only will attract many bidders coz is too cheap. Price gonna end up higher than this current price. Haha. Plenty of such cases. Ppl never learn. QUOTE(Adorable @ Dec 18 2018, 11:12 AM) 30% off SPA launch price? Is not a good benchmark maybe coz some projects come with huge rebate/cash back. Better benchmark is against subsale market price with solid number of transactions recorded. Here an example which is also a real case example (still active unit): OUG parklane subsale around 360k to 380k today. A check on brickz confirm that plenty of transactions recorded throughout the year. Lelong unit available now at 256k only which is 30% below subsale asking price. Of course is a good catch if the unit is still brand new condition as per your statement and able to grab at reserve price. p/s: is not a brand new condition unit. p/s: is a bumi lot. |
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Dec 19 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(BooYa @ Dec 19 2018, 10:14 PM) omg.. should i just get both units tomorow lol. havent really do much research yet, might as well wait for next auction Very certain will have no subsale transaction yet. i tried to check transaction price on brickz but nothing came out for both property, weird Both newly completed property. |
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Dec 20 2018, 05:14 AM
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Or just visit different-different branch. They got no SOP.
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