I'm getting tired of instancing that I'm seriously putting aside my fear of PvPing to try to get some of the Arena rewards. Even the thought of going through Heroics is putting me off a fair bit. Problem with being a resto druid sigh - so gimp that I can't even DPS/Tank anymore. Bleargh.

So,

1. How easy is it to get 1000 arena points for a beginner PvPer? Say if fighting a few matches a week, all losses (extreme example).

2. How long before the Gladiator set series is over? I read that Blizzard has 4 other sets available. Is it every 3 months since there are 4 sets in all or...?

3. Out of the 3 arena matches (2v2, 3v3, 5v5), which one would be easier to win?

1. 3 weeks or more if u have less than 1500rating

2.dont know,probably wont have new Gladiator set for next season

3. 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3

anyway,u should form a arena group and play 10 match every week no matter how sux u are in pvp..

1. how much can be earned if winning every fight? min. 10 match a week.

2. hmm...ok. i was reading up on the Arena details on the WoW site and it mentioned a total of 4 different sets.

http://www.boxspherical.com/arena/index.php

that link is a calculator to show how much points you will earn with the rating you have. btw, minimum points you can get is 69 and that is if you have a rating of 1 with a 2v2

This post has been edited by wikzs: Apr 16 2007, 05:17 PM

1. You probably cant gain much from having losses, need to win some to hit a good rating value. 1000 points a week is definitely tough. 1500 rating nets you 400 points and if you start at that, you need to play 10 games a week to get points. Assuming you've lost all 10 matches, you'll drop to 1.4k rating and u'll get about 380 points. . That'll take you 3 weeks to get 1k points, but to get something decent i'd aim for 1.8k points to buy the best pieces first (head / chest), not the gloves or shoulders~ As you gain higher and if you maintain your rating by just playing 10 games a week, the points will roll in. Our 5v5 team stand to gain 953 points this week for a 1938 rating, and that's because we won 10 games and decided to play safe and get that points instead of risking losing one game and drop more rating :S Always easier to drop instead of climbing up!

2. You can continue farming the armors even tho the season is over afaik. Not too sure about other sets but the gladiator set is strictly for pvp mostly. Altho as a pally the crit bonus is pretty good if you dont have kara gear~

3. 5v5 would be the easiest to win if you have a balanced group of 5. Plus you get the most point too i think? Not sure about this but i find 5v5 is probably the most balanced fight where certain class wont be too overpowered.

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Added on April 16, 2007, 11:03 pm1. This would depend on the other team that you played against. If their rating was way higher and you won them, you'll gain a lot more rating. If you were to play against someone way lower, sometimes you might get 5 points , or in extreme cases, 0 rating. Essentially you can actually play 10 games, winning 5 and losing 5 and gaining more rating (if those 5 wins were against higher rating teams) compared to winning 8 (vs very low rating teams) and losing 2 (against low rating teams), you might end up losing more rating points. (because losses were against teams with very low rating compared to yours)

This post has been edited by RaptoR: Apr 16 2007, 11:03 PM

1) takes 3-5 weeks, depending on ur win.losses

2) depending on blizzard's arena season, note this: blizzard may or may not include new arena gears, or arena sets after a new season, it depends on the PVE progression

3) 5v5, because 5v5 you get full points for the team, 3v3 80% and 2v2 60%.
easier to win? no such thing, they all the same. what i listed was how much ur point gain ratios are.

and imo, dont arena (or rated arena) until ur prepare to face up some lots of frustration, especially being an arena scrub(ill admit, i am one as well because i only got 40ish resi and 8.2k hp, so long ur resilience is under 200 and have less than 10k health, ur a scrub and within top arena teams, ur nothing.)

your rating will sit stagnant at a specific point because the moment you get past that point, you'll be pitted against tougher team and you'll just drop back lower. bottom line, arenas are basically a whole new world of pvp, so different, they are treating it professionally with sponsored teams like you see on war3/cs/starcraft professional tournaments.

1.depends on ur opponent team's rating.
winning against high rating team=u get more rating points,losing to them=u lose less rating points
and losing to low rating team=u will lose alot rating points,wining them=wont get u much rating points either.

2.oh...yeah some class have different arena sets to choose,example:druid have 3 diffrent sets...feral,restro,balance.

and again,i will say just form a arena now and play 10matchs a week to earn some arena points,even if you are losing badly you will still get some arena points,better than siting at 0 arena points every week.

This post has been edited by eternallove: Apr 17 2007, 05:41 AM

Sounds like fun...!!!
Have you guys ever pugged for arena teams before?

Nope but my guildies have. Some win fights, other not.

Although I do wonder about pug arena fights and how players are matched up. I went into AV last night just to get some practice again in the world of PvP. Very very rusty but mind you, I wasn't that great to begin with.

they are removing fishing from AB and AV (

good then. at least can focus on PvPing.

Noooo (

I fished out a major mana pot once!

O.o o.O

fish Mr. Pinchy

PvP and PvE are 2 entirely different playground

despite what others say or prove - even though a holy priest/restore druid can be sucessfull in PvP, its much easier/managable if one chooses the 'pvp tree'

once you made your choice - stick with it

but but but but, how to stick with it when Blizz allows us access in both worlds?!?!?!?!?

priest being holy or druid being restore is actually a good asset for top tier pvp teams, no matter what, a healer is needed and you cant expect them to heal in shadow/feral.

the only difference is that they will be speccing pvp holy or just straight disc, and pvp restore and maybe mix with balance and/or feral for survivability

in layman terms - u need to decide which 'role' u like more.

once u decided either as a support, healer or damage hitter - stick to it and work your way around it. it takes time to get it 'right'

as much as talent affects your performance - suitable gear (and of coz, skillz. doh) are as much a big factor. and gear are pretty much the most time consuming factor.

of coz, you can still go pvp/pve anytime you like.

i'm only stressing to AVOID this mentality: you CANT expect to be a super healer - then switch and instantly become an insane bg killer

just hafta know which field you're good at/choose to be good at, and dont do like some others do: spec/geared for healing yet blame they kenot do damage

i did not say holy priest/restore druid cant pvp.

i simply say, that it takes MORE hardwork/effort/skill for this type of character to get 'good' in PvP

if one enjoys just PvP and ONLY PvP, going those 'pvp tree' simply just fits their style of play

of coz, it all comes down to personal preference, choice and skill.

feral druid/shadow priest are simply stereotypes make famous by those who choose to play as, not how ALL druids/priest should play as

Hmmm...probably to clear up this whole issue of what I wanna do in Arenas. My goals are the Arena Rewards and not to make a name for myself. So I'm pretty alrite in accepting the fact that I'm never going to be an uber healer or uber nuker in PvP. It'll just take a longer period of time to get those quest rewards.

And I did post it in my original post that it was the rewards that was attractive. Not the idea of being the best PvPer I can be.

Besides, getting into an argument about the role of a PvE player vs a PvP player, I'm not getting into that. >< It's never-ending and I'd probably say something wrong or get bored.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 19 2007, 02:06 AM

no matter how attractive the rewards from the arena rewards can get, it'll only be good in pvp. pve loots come from pve, pvp loots come from pvp. certainly, there are some exceptions, such as the gladiator weapons in majority (though not all of them) but in the end those said items still spent their item distribution points on stam and resilience, in which a pve weapon of the same item level would get much higher pve stats such as agi/ap/crit/hit for example in rogue gears.

unless of course, you're just interested in getting more purples, then a mix of glad + kara having 2 source of purple income is definately the way to go. as many posted before mentioned, no matter how sucky ur team can go, just do the 10 games, if ur team doing good or in the mood, go more, if not just do 10 for the week and be done with it. regardless, no matter how low the points you can get, its better than no points. (regret for not doing the arenas the moment i hit 70, was too occupied in pve and obsessed on my rogue set/weapons)

if you wanna get a little serious, there are few gears that you can get from pve to pvp, get them, and be prepared to spend ~100-150 gold per week to spec back and forth from arena spec and raiding spec (if ur a raider or hardcore heroic person)