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 LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017

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post Sep 11 2021, 11:07 PM

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Great race by VB and the 2 Mclarens but poor get away by LH, disaster by Gasly, and also not so good by SP for not being able to overtake an Alfa in arguably the fastest car on the grid.
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post Sep 12 2021, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Sep 11 2021, 11:59 PM)
Uhhh, depends on how you look at it. He was on medium, the mclaren's are on soft. Softs should have better grip from launch.

Some say he botched the start, but I think its down to the tires

Seeing he got mclaren on his left and right, he wouldnt risk doing crazy move for so little points
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He clearly got too much wheelspin and bogged down, simply a bad start. Not just the Mclarens but Gasly also got by him.
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post Sep 12 2021, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(ctw88 @ Sep 12 2021, 12:54 PM)
You did notice that DR shot pass MV right and was half a car ahead? Just that he has to backoff into the turn 1. Not sure what you were watching
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Cmon dude, just accept the fact that other beat LH in that Sprint race due to his slow start, that's a fact! If he did a good start, he didn't need to back off in the first place! No excuses, let's just see how he fights back which I think he should be able to.
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post Sep 12 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Sep 12 2021, 03:52 PM)
back marker n block LH haha
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Naah he won't. VB when he is not at the front, he will be slow and struggling, easy to give up and will just give way. He might try to hold up MV a bit though if possible and I am sure Mercs already has that in mind to try later.
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:12 PM

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Good start by DR!
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:38 PM

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Disaster pit for MV!
Go Mclaren go!
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:41 PM

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Woohooo, gloves are properly off! Reminicent of Senna parking on top of Brundle in F3. Lol

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post Sep 12 2021, 09:46 PM

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The Halo again haa done its job protecting LH head!
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:53 PM

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Wow Norris balls of steel!
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:56 PM

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VB might actually win this!
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post Sep 12 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Sep 12 2021, 09:51 PM)
lewis ego .. dont gve space
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Just like MV didn't give space on lap 1!

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 12 2021, 09:54 PM)
I want a Ferrari to win Italian GP to be honest...

Or Bottas
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Too slow unfortunately those Ferraris.
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Sep 12 2021, 10:03 PM)
tapi boring la dun have max n lewis lol
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I actually love this, boring if either of them keep winning!
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 12 2021, 10:07 PM)
Bottas's Medium tire worn liao, Leclerc coming near
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But VB straight line speed is extraordinary! He was the only one passing others with relative ease. Must be due to the new power unit.
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2021, 10:21 PM)
Thanks to RB

Max took out Lewis or vice versa

Perez blocking VB
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Nope, the 2 Mclaren won on merit! They're both ahead of MV and LH when the incident happened.
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 12 2021, 10:18 PM)
Monza showing why F1 needs reduced down force.
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Monza often gives surprises, last year Gasly and this year DR! Remember SV first win in TR was also in Monza!
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2021, 10:27 PM)
Sainz can't even cover SP 5 sec penalty
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Oh ya, dissapointing Sainz, lackluster performance.
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post Sep 12 2021, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 12 2021, 10:37 PM)
Perez hasn't performed all year. I guess RBR just wanted a Rubens/Bottas.
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Yeah I think RB won't win constructor cuz SP is just not doing consistently well, often slow or clumsy. As I said before, ironic that VB who still able to deliver constructor title to Merc gets fired yet SP who hasn't performed well enough aside from Baku already got his seat next year. F1 sometimes is really unfair but I can understand why Merc must sign GR cuz otherwise they'd risk losing him.
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post Sep 12 2021, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 12 2021, 10:47 PM)
I think they are betting big on GR. I'm not convinced with GR over 1GP where Mercedes dominate. The wet qualy lap is one off, at least Vettel raced to win in Japan to show his talent back then.
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Yup I agree too but GR really has often put that Williams where it should not be on the grid so that is quite a sign of brilliance. Merc needs to prep up their new talent while LH is around so that's why they must promote him. With GR in Mercs, now the top 4 teams all have new generation drivers for the future: GR in Merc, CL and CS in Ferrari, LN in Mclaren, and of course MV in RB with PG still waiting in the wings. I do hope GR will give LH a good battle.

QUOTE(ctw88 @ Sep 12 2021, 10:49 PM)
He's on mediums. Given that he cant get pass Perez, and used up his tires, pretty much McLaren 1-2 is guaranteed
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Plus VB got a new power unit.

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post Sep 13 2021, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Sep 12 2021, 11:12 PM)
SP was having 2nd most overtakes of the season after Vettel yo.
Bottas was often thought as too conservative/less overtaking, just stuck behind opponents.
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Cuz he consistently underperforms in qualifying hence of course he must and can overtake a lot!

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 12 2021, 11:22 PM)
When you sucked so bad, that you ended in the last place with one of the 4 fastest cars on the grid... Overtaking is the least you can do...
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Exactly!

QUOTE(EroS @ Sep 13 2021, 12:23 AM)
That 100th win that Lewis is chasing all this year seems to be a curse as well. 😅😅
I'm very surprised that Horner calls it a racing incident.
Usually he's the one making all the noise like British GP.
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Cuz Horber knows his driver is mostly in the wrong.

QUOTE(sp6068 @ Sep 13 2021, 12:52 AM)
No / Driver 33 - Max Verstappen
Competitor Red Bull Racing Honda

Decision

3 Grid Place Drop at the driver’s next event.
(2 penalty points imposed, total of 2 points in the 12 month period)
Reason

The Stewards heard from the driver of car 33 (Max Verstappen), the driver of car 44
(Lewis Hamilton) and team representatives, reviewed the video evidence and
determined that the driver of Car 33 was predominantly to blame for the collision with
Car 44 at Turn 2.

Car 44 was exiting the pits. Car 33 was on the main straight. At the 50m board before
Turn 1, Car 44 was significantly ahead of Car 33. Car 33 braked late and started to
move alongside Car 44, although at no point in the sequence does Car 33 get any
further forward than just behind the front wheel of Car 44.

During the hearing the driver of Car 33 asserted that the cause of the incident was
the driver of Car 44 opening the steering after Turn 1 and “squeezing” him to the
apex of turn 2. The driver of Car 44 asserted that the driver of Car 33 attempted to
pass very late and should have given up the corner either by backing off sooner, or
by turning left behind the kerb.

The Stewards observed on CCTV footage that the driver of Car 44 was driving an
avoiding line, although his position caused Car 33 to go onto the kerb. But further, the
Stewards observed that Car 33 was not at all alongside Car 44 until significantly into
the entry into Turn 1. In the opinion of the Stewards, this manoeuvre was attempted
too late for the driver of Car 33 to have “the right to racing room”. While Car 44 could
have steered further from the kerb to avoid the incident, the Stewards determined that
his position was reasonable and therefore find that the driver of Car 33 was
predominantly to blame for the incident.

In coming to the penalty the Stewards emphasise that they have only considered the
incident itself and not the consequences thereof.

The Stewards
Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the
Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and
Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits
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I agree with this. If he could dish one out, then he needs to be able to take one too instead of whinging about LH actually doing what he did in lap 1!
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post Sep 13 2021, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Sep 13 2021, 01:03 AM)
MV is aggressive as he has been, just like what 6UE5T mentioned, look at the 1st lap how LH avoided collision with MV "space, what space?", it would be funny if Christian Horner cry for anything beyond "racing incident",
Like in Silverstone, it was a racing incident with both refused to yield, I believe both of them do have different interpretation on "space", and it's fair to say MV looks more and more like Senna when it comes to giving space.
Both RB and MB botched up their pit stop respectively and MV-RB came out as the net winner, 1 race off with 5 points lead.
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Silverstone to me mostly LH's fault though.
Senna? During his time NOBODY would give space! No rules on that either, racers were more free to battle on their own and that's why it was the greatest era of F1! Lol

MV gains on his points but RB lost more points to Mercs due to weak SP.

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