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TSspikeee
post Apr 16 2007, 10:41 AM, updated 19y ago

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Hey guys,

thought it would be interesting to talk about the beautiful game's many rules and regulations. i think sometimes, a lot of fans don't fully understand the exact rules, and are too lazy to read the 'official' rule book etc

Therefore, as football fans, let's help educate each other and help each other clarify questions about the various rules.




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1) So, what's the deal with taking fast direct free kicks (on goal)? When is it allowed, when is it not allowed?
2) A quick trivia question for those who never thought of it before, but DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN a Goalkeeper uses his hand to catch the ball when his his teammate passes the ball back to him? (backpass rule)
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Apr 16 2007, 10:41 AM)
Hey guys,

thought it would be interesting to talk about the beautiful game's many rules and regulations. i think sometimes, a lot of fans don't fully understand the exact rules, and are too lazy to read the 'official' rule book etc

Therefore, as football fans, let's help educate each other and help each other clarify questions about the various rules.
Allow me to start :
1) So, what's the deal with taking fast direct free kicks (on goal)? When is it allowed, when is it not allowed?
2) A quick trivia question for those who never thought of it before, but DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN a Goalkeeper uses his hand to catch the ball when his his teammate passes the ball back to him? (backpass rule)
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1. No idea. but i know there are either free kick or set piece when a foul commit. not sure how referee justify to give which one though. please advice.
2. Penalty?
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post Apr 16 2007, 10:54 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-pass_rule smile.gif
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Apr 16 2007, 10:41 AM)
Hey guys,

thought it would be interesting to talk about the beautiful game's many rules and regulations. i think sometimes, a lot of fans don't fully understand the exact rules, and are too lazy to read the 'official' rule book etc

Therefore, as football fans, let's help educate each other and help each other clarify questions about the various rules.
Allow me to start :
1) So, what's the deal with taking fast direct free kicks (on goal)? When is it allowed, when is it not allowed?
2) A quick trivia question for those who never thought of it before, but DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN a Goalkeeper uses his hand to catch the ball when his his teammate passes the ball back to him? (backpass rule)
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1. When the ref blows for a foul, he will ask whether u want to take it quickly or not. If u want to take it quickly the wall doesn not need to go back the required 10 yards. That means if u smash it into an opposing player it's your loss. What normally happens is opponents will put 1 player in front of the ball to prevent it from being taken quickly until the ref asks him to back away in which case the player has to wait for the whistle.

2. Indirect FK inside the box. There have been many weird situations i've seen where a freekick is right in front of the 6 yard box which makes it very interesting brows.gif
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:19 AM

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yeah but still there will be 8 players in the wall tongue.gif..wonder how they will score..thought there are some goals that were scored from that position
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:28 AM

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You can't score direct from it. So normally u'll have 2 players on the ball. One nudges it, the other smashes it. And if u have someone like Roberto Carlos all the better tongue.gif
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:38 AM

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How the ref define handball? I know the upper hand also handball but I've seen lot of time the refs given handball when the player control the ball with his shoulder. It shoudn't be handball I guess.
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:50 AM

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The thing about the quick free kick is that some referees don't even ALLOW quick free kicks to be taken, meaning they won't even ask the player whether he wants to take - because it's a very controversial thing.

i think that there should be less of a gray area in this aspect.


The backpass offence that happens INSIDE the 6 yard box requires that ALL 11 players stand in one straight line (goalline) and it's an indirect free kick. so the moment the first player touches the ball, the 10 players in the box will rush out to close down/press!


Added on April 16, 2007, 11:51 amHandball should always be about HAND TO BALL rather than BALL TO HAND.

Hand to Ball simply means sticking your hand out when you shouldn't.
Ball to hand is when you use your hand to protect your body/face and the ball hits your hand even though u're keeping it within your body

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What about this Q:

When you and your teammate past the Offside Trap (Meaning both players are behind the OT 1 player carrying the ball to the penalty area) can you:

1. pass to the player who is IN FRONT OF you (you and your friendALREADY PAST THE OFFSIDE TRAP)

2. pass to player who is BEHIND you (you and your friend ALREADY PAST THE OFFSIDE TRAP)
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I also vaguely remember a situation. 2 strikers had got past the defending goalkeeper. There was one defender on the line. One of the strikers had passed the ball to the other who slotted it in. The goal was disallowed for offside, why? For it not to be offside, at least two (not one) defending players must be in front of these two strikers if they were to pass to one another. People don't notice this rule because the keeper is still on the line and is normally the last defender. In this case, the keeper had already come off his line and the strikers had passed him.

Can someone clarify this? My memory of it is a little fuzzy.

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QUOTE(ImanAzlan @ Apr 16 2007, 04:50 PM)
What about this Q:

When you and your teammate past the Offside Trap (Meaning both players are behind the OT 1 player carrying the ball to the penalty area) can you:

1. pass to the player who is IN FRONT OF you (you and your friendALREADY PAST THE OFFSIDE TRAP)

2. pass to player who is BEHIND you (you and your friend ALREADY PAST THE OFFSIDE TRAP)
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1. No

2. Yes

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 16 2007, 05:02 PM)
I also vaguely remember a situation. 2 strikers had got past the defending goalkeeper. There was one defender on the line. One of the strikers had passed the ball to the other who slotted it in. The goal was disallowed for offside, why? For it not to be offside, at least two (not one) defending players must be in front of these two strikers if they were to pass to one another. People don't notice this rule because the keeper is still on the line and is normally the last defender. In this case, the keeper had already come off his line and the strikers had passed him.

Can someone clarify this? My memory of it is a little fuzzy.
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Correct. The exact rule says at least 2 defending players, 1 of which is the GK. I remember a RM game in CL where it happened...can't remember the exact game though.. unsure.gif
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1. If the player didnt ask for 10 yards , he can take it as soon as he wants. But , the opposing team , can stand on the ball if they want , since the player didnt ask for 10 yards
2. Indirect freekick, as in ball from penalty spot , but u can put a wall ( which is fun )



1* , this is why i think ppl who complain bout the goals henry and giggs did is wrong are totaly dumb. their own fault

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Quick free kick can be taken if the player didn't complain about the wall..IF the referee haven say kick after blow..
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post Apr 16 2007, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Apr 16 2007, 12:15 PM)
1. When the ref blows for a foul, he will ask whether u want to take it quickly or not. If u want to take it quickly the wall doesn not need to go back the required 10 yards.
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Though it is legal, but I don't like the idea of the referee to "ask" the FK taker whether he wants quick or not. It's like telling the person you have to take it quick because I want you to. I'm more satisfied if the ref kept quiet, and the FK taker takes initiative to ask the ref whether he can take it quick or not, and then he moves away not holding the whistle to his mouth. It should make a protocol like that so that everybody is aware of the situation and the ref's small body language does not cause the goal to be "controversial". A fairer game, don't you think so?

About the question bout offsides, I remember playing Winning Eleven where 2 of my players got passed the last defender (not GK), the one on the behind made a pass to the player running further, and it was an offside. simply saying a passing can avoid to be offside when the players are on the same line or the passer should be ahead of the receiver.

And I've got questions about Yellow Cards/Red Cards and banned matches, I supposed every league/competition on the TV screens have the same system.
1. how many yellow cards collected in order to get banned match?
2. Appeal can be done when the TV shows that the cards given was not justified?
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Apr 16 2007, 07:58 PM)
And I've got questions about Yellow Cards/Red Cards and banned matches, I supposed every league/competition on the TV screens have the same system.
1. how many yellow cards collected in order to get banned match?
2. Appeal can be done when the TV shows that the cards given was not justified?
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1.5 yellow cards for EPL ionno for others yawn.gif
2.not sure.

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post Apr 16 2007, 08:11 PM

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1. different rules for different cup competitions and at different stages

for eg. EPL - 5 yellow cards = 1 match banned (the domestic cups are all applicable)

meaning that if you get 4 yellow cards in EPL, then 1 yellow card in FA cup, u'll be banned for one match in the next domestic match.


if i'm not wrong, in CL, every 3 yellow cards = 1 match banned? please help me clarify, guys
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post Apr 16 2007, 08:27 PM

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ok, how about if this player already have 4 yellow cards, and then this game he got himself 2 yellow cards which accumulated a red. So it's 2 domestic bans?
Consider a similar scenario with a player with 4 yellows, and then this game he gets a RED (straight 3 ban matches). So does his yellow cards he collected previously automatically overwritten?
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QUOTE(spikeee @ Apr 16 2007, 08:11 PM)
1. different rules for different cup competitions and at different stages

for eg. EPL - 5 yellow cards = 1 match banned (the domestic cups are all applicable)

meaning that if you get 4 yellow cards in EPL, then 1 yellow card in FA cup, u'll be banned for one match in the next domestic match.
if i'm not wrong, in CL, every 3 yellow cards = 1 match banned? please help me clarify, guys
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i think CL is 2 cards.
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post Apr 16 2007, 08:46 PM

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i believe you're right :nodnod: red overrides the 4 yellows
anyone that's very certain about this can clarify?

i would like to know what makes a foul a DEFINITE red card? tackle from behind?

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Apr 16 2007, 08:46 PM)
i would like to know what makes a foul a DEFINITE red card? tackle from behind?
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cynical fouls.

E.G. elbowing on purpose, rash tackles that the referee deems as intentionally causing hurt to the player (like going for the player instead of the ball.),some common sense one like assaulting, purposely handballing to prevent a goal etc etc.


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