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post Jun 7 2007, 09:19 PM

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imba is imbalance my dear friend... laugh.gif


is Scrin going to be imbalance that much?? Why you said so?? Forgot the content of the 1.05 patch edy... laugh.gif
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post Jun 7 2007, 10:23 PM

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LOL.. mr. sayur.. you sound very spirited... laugh.gif


Yeah.. will look forward for a good battle with you.

And hopefully someone can teach me the art of Scrin after this new patch... laugh.gif sweat.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2007, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jun 7 2007, 10:58 PM)
The ultimate key to victory for scrin is to spam as much PAC + DEVASTATOR + TRIPOD  as possible.

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I know that edy lorr boss... tongue.gif

The thing is how to survive till that time without being dependent on our allies. I always need my ally to cover my @ss till I gain PAC + DEVASTATOR + TRIPOD and only that.. will I become stronger even then my ally. A pack of DEVASTATOR really obliterate a base in a matter of seconds. And masses of TRIPOD seems to best Mammoth even at the same amount... hmm.gif

But early game?? Always if my ally doesn't cover my @ss... I'm doom. sweat.gif


QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 8 2007, 01:56 AM)
anyway any of you tried super duper mass venom?
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Most people here who watches me playing online will notice that I rely quite a lot with massive spam of Venom. They obliterate even the best massive air unit of Scrin very easily.

My Nod games always have around 120++ Venoms if the game manage to reach 15 minutes and so on. And it really pwns Predators.. masses of them so easy. Ofcourse the cons is there too. One is massive anti-air... even 50 only against 120 Venoms is already quite effective. And the other one is the game will.. er.. gets kinda laggy too sweat.gif doh.gif


Tested in game against one fella... 100++ Venoms against his masses of Mammoth... I fight this fella two times with the same strategy. At first my Venoms wins against his Mammoths... and in the second round... somehow he manages to masses his Mammoth quite a lot... and seems that Venoms don't really stand a chance against his hordes of Mammoth. So I decided to go straight to his base and obliterate everything there instead of goint toe-to-toe with his Mammoth. And I won.. since he took too long to reach my base to have any chance with my buildings.. laugh.gif (though I do wonder why he don't build any anti-air or anti-unit at that time.. guess he gave up edy)


It do failed horribly though... against one of the forumers here... he watched me play against another forumers. And decided to spam Pitt Bulls instead... and not even a single Pred at all.

I got owned in a very short time... doh.gif forgot edy who la... steno or xellos maybe. I don't remember anymore...




And since then I never bother massing venoms anymore... 30 to 50 is enough edy.. would rather try another strategy than this pure-spamming stuff whistling.gif cool.gif cool.gif

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post Jun 8 2007, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 8 2007, 12:04 PM)
if only the fella had 5 bunkers with 3 rocket infs each.

and also 5 other AA battery. you're 100 venoms are gonna get hit badly.
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Yeah.. I'm aware of that. I dare to go straight to his base though cause I figure he didn't even build a barracks (typical online player... LOL... I don't build a barracks too sweat.gif )


So I know he won't have any rocket infs at all.


And I have yet to encounter a player who actually utilizes the use of bunkers... not even a single person I've had my match with build it at all.


However this is probably going to change in patch 1.05.
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post Jun 8 2007, 03:46 PM

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I wonder... got owned by Hard Steamroller (Nod) in a matter of second with this new patch... sweat.gif


I'm in serious trouble now... online.
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post Jun 8 2007, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(azmirhere @ Jun 8 2007, 10:15 PM)
anyone online tonite
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me and jerkinxx online now.. wanna join??

::EDIT::

Amazing... 7 games as of today and only 2 wins. One against AI (2v2) while the other one against some US fella (1v1).

LoL... it's like a brand new game for me. Something kinda wrong though.. dunno what is it. Predators/Scorpions is definitely not the way now... everything learned so far need to be unlearned again.


Finally at my last match of today... got tired and fed-up and just decided to give the opponent free win. Feel like to puke edy... rclxub.gif

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post Jun 9 2007, 11:06 AM

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LOL.. spamming 90+ rocket infantry can guarantee win already laugh.gif


Seen it from some replay... the only real threat for them is normal infantry. Even Buggy/APC is not that effective seeing how they die so fast against Rockets... doh.gif
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post Jun 9 2007, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 9 2007, 04:57 PM)
venom are the anti scrin air units... only afraid of seekers and maybe storm riders... brows.gif  bundle wif stealth tanks... the scrin DW and PAC are no match... which is y i said NODs are anti scrins... but if in small map... considering we build war factory after refinery... spamming scorpion tanks directly to enemy MCV and foundations will ensure victory in +/-10 minutes against scrins...
(tested against amateur player smile.gif )
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Unfortunately most of it won't work in this new patch.


But Nod can be said to be a good Scrin eater somehow. Heck.. last night 5 of my Devastator got owned by 4 Vertigo shakehead.gif and that is with AI.

Since when can Vertigo shoot machine-gun?? Took only around 5 to 8 second to eat one Devastator... blink.gif

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post Jun 9 2007, 07:37 PM

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oh... so it do have anti-air machinegun... LOL... but that is kinda strong lar if you ask me.. or perhaps Devastator and PAC has been nerfed...


Well... you're around though when my Devastator and PAC got owned by 4 Vertigo (since we are playing together that time)... geez... never in my life before I got owned by such simple thing..
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post Jun 10 2007, 06:52 PM

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LoL..

manage to finally beat Hard AI in Tournament Rift... dmn hard lar...


I spam rocket infantry... the AI spam APC.. so many blink.gif

Then I spam Scorp... suddenly the AI release a hordes of rocket infantry back to me.


Finally I spam rocket infantry + riflemen + scorps + Buggy... then the AI spam rocket infantry + riflemen + pred + apc sweat.gif It's not supposed to be this hard... but the AI micro is dmn superior than me making me like a little kid compared to AI. Finally manage to win when I sneaked in 5 stealthed Flame Tanks and eat his ConYard... while at the same time maintain control over the Blue Tiberium. After a while the AI stopped attacking and the game falls in my control.


Well... the AI sure is hard.. but only at the beginning of the game. When the game stall for quite some time... no money then they all become stupid back like 1.04 laugh.gif
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post Jun 10 2007, 08:01 PM

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and somehow... I found this new patch is less fun to play then 1.04. Well... absolute micro abilites against Hard AI is one thing... but to see my screen swarming with almost 100 Rocket Infantry sweat.gif ...

Well.. I prefer Scorpions and Buggies than pure infantry spam...


But it is quite fun against people in the net though. Lots of new fancy tactics can be seen now. At least even the best people out there don't have such superior micro abilites like the AI did... I think laugh.gif .

BTW.. anyone else playing this game is on xfire?? What's your id if yes??


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After multiple games with AI... I started to wonder whether EA's aim of forcing the players to use other type of units instead of pure tank spam will succeed or not.

One of the biggest aim for patch 1.05 is to make sure usage of unit are more expand and not only limited to tanks.. tanks.. and tanks. Thus this is what I've seen... and learned so far:

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Now I wonder whether EA's objective is fulfilled or not. What is the situation if it is in 1.04?? Well... just replace the rocket infantry with Scorps and rifleman with Buggy. That is how I used to play in 1.04. laugh.gif

I hardly use any tanks at all... and so far this is the only absolute way of winning against Hard steamroller AI I've tried so far. Still pure spamming... only that it has changed into infantry spamming whistling.gif

Seems like pure one/two types of unit spamming is still relevant afterall... and no need for micro/tactics at all.... doh.gif



*And somehow... I really find this new patch kinda boring... dunno why... yawn.gif

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post Jun 11 2007, 02:19 PM

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dmn.. since when did AI knows how to Shadow Team rush.... fck.. fck.. fck..


Oii aurora... why don't we have some compstomp together arr?? I really tak puas hati dengan Hard AI nowadays... vmad.gif

Wanna play with expert see how to tackle Hard AI Steamroller / Rush


QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 11 2007, 02:09 PM)
oh yeah... vertigos have tailguns but they won shoot when stealthed unless asked to do so... icon_idea.gif
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Ahh.. i see... that explains why I never knew of its existence before. I never bothered to try.. never bothered to read the manual (until now I still haven't touch it yet).. and even the AI never bothered to use it against me.. sweat.gif doh.gif

Now suddenly all the AI become smart @ss edy..



*And my lack of skill/understanding of this new patch really helps contribute a lot in making me a complete noob/novice against AI. Geez.. it used to be fun against 3 Hard AI Steamroller at the same time. Now even one already gives me lots of headache...

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post Jun 11 2007, 03:00 PM

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no problem I think... but your gc might only be able to push the graphic setting to Medium... smile.gif
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post Jun 11 2007, 03:22 PM

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then you are good to go I believe rclxms.gif
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post Jun 11 2007, 09:24 PM

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after a few games with AI just now... suddenly I feel they are less threatening now... compared to me. laugh.gif

3 games just now and manage to win all of them.

But still... I think patch 1.04 is more entertainning than this one...
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post Jun 12 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jun 11 2007, 10:31 PM)
I can pawn brutal Scrin in under 10 minutes in 1.04. Haven't tried 1.05 yet biggrin.gif
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LoL..

In 1.04... even me alone vs 4 Hard AI Steamroller is never a problem at all. But suddenly in this new patch... I already had a very hard time against 1 Medium AI Balance sweat.gif

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post Jun 12 2007, 03:02 PM

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if can save up to 8600GTS.. better to add just another few bucks for 8800GTS. The difference of price versus performance between 8600GTS and 8800GTS is just not worth it.

It's either 8600GT or 8800GTS straight..


*Just my two cents laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Agent717(tm) @ Jun 12 2007, 05:21 PM)
Have you try to use infantry?
Man...
Why ppl still use goddamn tank spam...
Use Tank + Rocket infantry rolleyes.gif
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Well... toksantau wins a few games with pure tank spam (well.. 60% of his forces are APC while the other 40% is Predator)... laugh.gif

I wonder how he do that though... doh.gif not a single infantry at all...

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post Jun 12 2007, 06:36 PM

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yeah.. I shud try Tournament Rift a lot.. it is really a fun map to play except against Hard Guerilla... they really gives me lots of headache on that map.. sweat.gif

anyway..

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The goodness of Infantry spam... and it lags like hell too... laugh.gif

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