i also want to change my tire
decision between:
175/65/R14 (original size) vs 185/60/R14
For Dunlop Sport J5: RM 120 vs RM 125 per donut exclude GST
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Oct 30 2017, 12:15 PM
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i also want to change my tire
decision between: 175/65/R14 (original size) vs 185/60/R14 For Dunlop Sport J5: RM 120 vs RM 125 per donut exclude GST |
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Oct 30 2017, 02:06 PM
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Oct 30 2017, 04:23 PM
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Oct 30 2017, 05:43 PM
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Nov 7 2017, 11:50 AM
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Can anyone help to rank tyres based on quietness?
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Nov 29 2017, 06:30 PM
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It's very easy to figure out alternative wheel tyre combinations. The objective is to get the same overall diameter of the pair. For 175/65/14, there are no alternative 14" tire sizes that will give exactly the same overall diameter. The closest is 225/50/14 (-0.4% overall diameter) or 195/60/14 (+0.9%)
If upgrade to 15" rims, can go for 185/55 (nice low profile) or 225/45 (boy racer low profile) both no effect on overall diameter For fuel economy, they say if your new combi weighs more - then naturally FC will suffer. Hahaha go weigh your stock combi & when you shop for new rim & tires, bring a weighing scale ensure weight no increase For handling, the boy racer 225/45 might seem better intuitively - but the engineer research says you have to make sure you don't alter the "scrub radius" too much - hahaha go google that - that has to do with the rim offset & the overall geometry of the suspension system. Also the research say wider tires will affect your pickup ie look nice but cannot run For cost, of course change rim burn bigger hole in pocket la. Even those 14" combi mentioned, you definitely need to change rim for the 225/50, not sure about the 195/60 Me no genius - use this online tool . Have fun! |
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Jan 29 2018, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(okuribito @ Nov 29 2017, 06:30 PM) It's very easy to figure out alternative wheel tyre combinations. The objective is to get the same overall diameter of the pair. For 175/65/14, there are no alternative 14" tire sizes that will give exactly the same overall diameter. The closest is 225/50/14 (-0.4% overall diameter) or 195/60/14 (+0.9%) seriously 225/50/14 ?!If upgrade to 15" rims, can go for 185/55 (nice low profile) or 225/45 (boy racer low profile) both no effect on overall diameter For fuel economy, they say if your new combi weighs more - then naturally FC will suffer. Hahaha go weigh your stock combi & when you shop for new rim & tires, bring a weighing scale ensure weight no increase For handling, the boy racer 225/45 might seem better intuitively - but the engineer research says you have to make sure you don't alter the "scrub radius" too much - hahaha go google that - that has to do with the rim offset & the overall geometry of the suspension system. Also the research say wider tires will affect your pickup ie look nice but cannot run For cost, of course change rim burn bigger hole in pocket la. Even those 14" combi mentioned, you definitely need to change rim for the 225/50, not sure about the 195/60 Me no genius - use this online tool . Have fun! This post has been edited by spreeeee: Jan 29 2018, 11:58 PM |
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Jan 29 2018, 06:21 PM
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Wider tyre contact area is the same compare to ori as long as tyre pressure are the same.
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Mar 12 2018, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 30 2017, 05:43 PM) QUOTE(okuribito @ Nov 29 2017, 06:30 PM) It's very easy to figure out alternative wheel tyre combinations. The objective is to get the same overall diameter of the pair. For 175/65/14, there are no alternative 14" tire sizes that will give exactly the same overall diameter. The closest is 225/50/14 (-0.4% overall diameter) or 195/60/14 (+0.9%) If upgrade to 15" rims, can go for 185/55 (nice low profile) or 225/45 (boy racer low profile) both no effect on overall diameter For fuel economy, they say if your new combi weighs more - then naturally FC will suffer. Hahaha go weigh your stock combi & when you shop for new rim & tires, bring a weighing scale ensure weight no increase For handling, the boy racer 225/45 might seem better intuitively - but the engineer research says you have to make sure you don't alter the "scrub radius" too much - hahaha go google that - that has to do with the rim offset & the overall geometry of the suspension system. Also the research say wider tires will affect your pickup ie look nice but cannot run For cost, of course change rim burn bigger hole in pocket la. Even those 14" combi mentioned, you definitely need to change rim for the 225/50, not sure about the 195/60 Me no genius - use this online tool . Have fun! QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 29 2018, 05:39 PM) QUOTE(jasonhanjk @ Jan 29 2018, 06:21 PM) Hi sifu may i ask will a setup 195/50/15 give the same fuel comsumtion as 175/65/14? Is it equal to each other but only difference 195 one will give you better grip??? |
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Mar 12 2018, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Mar 12 2018, 06:50 PM) Hi sifu may i ask will a setup 195/50/15 give the same fuel comsumtion as 175/65/14? Is it equal to each other but only difference 195 one will give you better grip??? Should be negligible difference. The 195/50 is wider hence more traction/rolling resistance in general but the overall diameter is also a bit smaller than the 175/65 so they kinda negate each other, provided both are similar tires. You should use 205/50 though to maintain about the same diameter but the rims should also be wide enough for 205 tires (6-6.5jj wide).You can check with this conversion calculator: https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=175...wcl=30mm&sr=0mm |
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Mar 19 2018, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Mar 12 2018, 07:07 PM) Should be negligible difference. The 195/50 is wider hence more traction/rolling resistance in general but the overall diameter is also a bit smaller than the 175/65 so they kinda negate each other, provided both are similar tires. You should use 205/50 though to maintain about the same diameter but the rims should also be wide enough for 205 tires (6-6.5jj wide). Hi thanks for the reply. I don't know how to read that charts. I assume you know more then me regarding tyres. So there would be no problem upgrading my bezza tyres to the 195/50, would the bar be able to handle the extra weight?You can check with this conversion calculator: https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=175...wcl=30mm&sr=0mm I just want to eliminate the floating feel. The 205/50 you suggest would be sticking out quite a bit so would prefer the 195/50. |
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Mar 19 2018, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Mar 19 2018, 12:26 PM) Hi thanks for the reply. I don't know how to read that charts. I assume you know more then me regarding tyres. So there would be no problem upgrading my bezza tyres to the 195/50, would the bar be able to handle the extra weight? note that bezza suggest use 6 or 6.5jj rim.7j with 195 width tyre will rub fender.I just want to eliminate the floating feel. The 205/50 you suggest would be sticking out quite a bit so would prefer the 195/50. |
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Mar 19 2018, 10:08 PM
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Mar 20 2018, 01:10 PM
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Mar 20 2018, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Mar 19 2018, 12:26 PM) Hi thanks for the reply. I don't know how to read that charts. I assume you know more then me regarding tyres. So there would be no problem upgrading my bezza tyres to the 195/50, would the bar be able to handle the extra weight? What bar??I just want to eliminate the floating feel. The 205/50 you suggest would be sticking out quite a bit so would prefer the 195/50. |
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Mar 26 2018, 12:15 PM
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any1 upgraded, come share your photos, and prices.
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Apr 25 2018, 04:15 PM
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recently having the same dilemma of changing bigger rims like let's say 175/65R14 to 185/55R15 like everyone else recommended. But i guess i'll stick with the same original sizes as 14 inch (Bezza also), I'll go for Dunlop 185/60R14, thread width from side to side compare for 185/65R14 VS 185/60R14 is obvious, so from outlook, people seeing from behind, the tyres look wider than stock 175
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Apr 26 2018, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(ahnee92 @ Apr 25 2018, 04:15 PM) recently having the same dilemma of changing bigger rims like let's say 175/65R14 to 185/55R15 like everyone else recommended. But i guess i'll stick with the same original sizes as 14 inch (Bezza also), I'll go for Dunlop 185/60R14, thread width from side to side compare for 185/65R14 VS 185/60R14 is obvious, so from outlook, people seeing from behind, the tyres look wider than stock 175 is only additional 10mm.. not obvious though.. |
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Apr 26 2018, 11:38 AM
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May 11 2018, 05:40 PM
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how about 195/55R15 tyre?Does it fit?
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