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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - 2017/2018, LFC 3 : 0 HUD #YNWA

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post Oct 23 2017, 07:02 PM

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I think OX brings us bad luck....

As u can see, arsenal is winning again!! Hahaha
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post Oct 23 2017, 07:46 PM

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During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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post Oct 23 2017, 08:45 PM

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The heck is happening to this club now, total disarray.
Not looking good atm guys, becoming a punching bag to the likes of Spurs, who we use to tapau years ago. My God.
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post Oct 23 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 23 2017, 10:16 AM)
you cant persist with center backs making basic mistakes almost every week.....basic mistakes...

the only positive from last night? Lovren was substituted before break...i hope its a sign ..
secondly...club have over 30 mil to sign a player to improve the first 11/squad, whichever......and then what happened?

They signed Ox....this is not getting James Milner for cheaps or bringing in Gary McAllister, Fowler second coming, etc...
This was millions...And i thought the signing of Mario is the undisputable biggest transfer joke...
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It's LFC obsession to remain more English.

Yes, perhaps but it should not be if there are better players at the transfer price that LFC has a ceiling on



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post Oct 23 2017, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:46 PM)
During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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We removed Pepe reina (whom was quite dark about his position then) because LFC, well FSG deemed he was earning too much.

Also many LFC fans thought Simon is far better stop keeper than reina was. (God the amount of goals conceded via keepers mistake is a slap in the face)
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post Oct 23 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 23 2017, 09:32 PM)
We removed Pepe reina (whom was quite dark about his position then) because LFC, well FSG deemed he was earning too much.

Also many LFC fans thought Simon is far better stop keeper than reina was. (God the amount of goals conceded via keepers mistake is a slap in the face)
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I wanted Pepe out too. He was on the lowest point of his career.

Perhaps the problem lies in the goalkeeping coach?
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post Oct 23 2017, 10:43 PM

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Wrong move Everton

"Evertonfc sacks ronald koeman"


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RONALD Koeman paid the price for Everton’s poor start to the season, losing his job with the team in the Premier League relegation zone despite spending about $200 million on new players.

The Dutchman was dismissed on Monday, two months into his second season in charge following a 5-2 loss to Arsenal on Sunday.

That left Everton without a win in its last five matches in all competitions.


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post Oct 23 2017, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 11:03 PM)
I wanted Pepe out too. He was on the lowest point of his career.

Perhaps the problem lies in the goalkeeping coach?
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No, it's pretty much between Reina vs Mignolet, reina is a better overall keeper. Something about mignolet that he may have excelled much in his previous club. (Granted i spoke about this several times) If he is kept busy by opponents and reasonably set of Centre backs his stats soars. But when your team dominates and staying focused is crucial as there aren't much to do but when the counter attacks raids in, it's about the ability to remained 100% without mistakes. It's already official now in terms of keepers mistake that lead to a goal, mignolet has committed the worse.

Also mignonet will never ever launch a quite counterattack via goalkeeper throw like the way spurs keeper did in their goal. Almost 4-5 secs when keeper throws into midfields area & pin point finds his players, boom.

While it's not all is lost about mignolet, once we settled ourselves with a better defensive midfielder and a proper centerbacks, mignolet can reverse that bad occasional lapses.
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Oct 23 2017, 08:46 PM)
During this difficult time, let me remind you all that Klopp offered Dejan Lovren a new deal worth 100k per week 6 months ago.

Jurgen Klopp. He knows only play one way. There is zero back up plan. No formation changes no matter what happens.

I think we might be the only club that has defensive issues for ages but never spend money to buy players. Klopp has been here for two years and the only CB he bought with money is Ragnar fucking Klavan for dirt cheap.

Next summer transfer window, it will be like "We have plenty of money to spend but we can't attract quality players without Champions league."

We bought Simon Mignolet to replace Pepe Reina who's now with Napoli sitting top of Serie A.
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At that time, LFC isn't gonna spend any for defenders. A proper better Centre back begins at 40mil. Throw him under the bus by Klopp? Klopp won't. (Unlike Sakho situation is very different with Klopp)


QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2017, 01:29 AM)
Be grateful with what we have now. A year from now, all these players will want to leave Liverpool for greener pastures and replaced by some British nobodies from Championship league.

Under FSG, we are just gonna get worse.

If you think Klopp is bad, wait til you get donkeys like Sam Allardyce or Woy Hogdson to manage us. Oh wai.....
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Exactly. It's more probably Sam gets a mention in the pool of managers or even final round 😝


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post Oct 23 2017, 11:22 PM

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Next, Huddlesfield Town at home. So worry if Lovren starts again. Every opponent knows on how to deal with him already.
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post Oct 24 2017, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 23 2017, 11:02 PM)
At that time, LFC isn't gonna spend any for defenders. A proper better Centre back begins at 40mil. Throw him under the bus by Klopp? Klopp won't. (Unlike Sakho situation is very different with Klopp)
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But 6 months later, we spent 35M on a not even proper wanna be CM on Ox.

Even at that time, Klopp had been here for 18 months. It is still a big mystery why Klopp still don't see Lovren as a problem at that time.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 23 2017, 11:22 PM)
Next, Huddlesfield Town at home. So worry if Lovren starts again. Every opponent knows on how to deal with him already.
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And no one knows klopp better than wagner. It's going to be a tough fixture.

As for our defense, perhaps klopp will try Gomez+Matip in the center and TAA on the right.
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Liverpool now ready to sanction Coutinho move

Another good player bites the dust, instead of looking to reinforce in the summer, now they want to sell him off. Liverpool increasingly looking like the new Crystal Palace.

#FSGout
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post Oct 24 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 24 2017, 05:41 PM)
Liverpool now ready to sanction Coutinho move

Another good player bites the dust, instead of looking to reinforce in the summer, now they want to sell him off. Liverpool increasingly looking like the new Crystal Palace.

#FSGout
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Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses



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post Oct 25 2017, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 24 2017, 11:45 PM)
Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses
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yeah, since 2011. forever 'rebuilding'.
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post Oct 25 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Oct 25 2017, 12:20 AM)
yeah, since 2011. forever 'rebuilding'.
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Fundamentally, we are not doing things befitting a club of our stature.

We are selling our best players

We continue to buy cheap and unproven talents

We continue to buy overpriced British players

We are not acting fast enough in the transfer market and constantly being priced out by sellers;

We are putting too much blind faith on underperforming players; and refuse to upgrade.

Liverpool’s fall from grace is not an overnight effect. It’s accumulation of all the dumb decisions above season after season that led to our demise. And still they didn’t learn their lesson.

With FSG as our owners, nothing will go right for this club. You can have the world’s best manager in our stable but no it won’t change a thing. Yes I said it. Don’t even ‘it’s still October” me FFS.

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 24 2017, 11:45 PM)
Expecting...
"No one is bigger than the club"
"No point keeping an unhappy player"
"The money is there to spend" but "Hard to sign a good player in January window"
A list of hundreds potential replacements and hundreds more crappy excuses
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honestly I was damn upset about the whole thing before the season started. but now, meh. I think good players deserve to play for good clubs.

so yea, thanks for everything little magician. adios.

and adios top 4.

we've taken 5 steps back this season, really.
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Defenders dont make money, simple.

Well, Klopp is a yes man that is why FSG hired him to begin with I guess. But no diff then any other manager when it comes to being a yes manager. Look at Rafa, what happened to him, sacked.

FSG just want to buy attackers as it is easy to sell them on for massive profits.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Oct 25 2017, 10:34 AM)
Defenders dont make money, simple.

Well, Klopp is a yes man that is why FSG hired him to begin with I guess. But no diff then any other manager when it comes to being a yes manager. Look at Rafa, what happened to him, sacked.

FSG just want to buy attackers as it is easy to sell them on for massive profits.
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Look managing Liverpoolfc is an interesting option, Klopp was available and it didn't take much to convince but I'm sure some ground rules were established.

Also for many times we know Klopp never throws a player under the bus publicly. No snide remarks, no sarcasm aim wth his players. Many managers, many top managers claim the protect the players but they do throw them under the bus to save their/his own skin.

Is Klopp similar with Brendan? a yes man. Yes & No. On surface they do, i think we seen that but I believe Klopp has more respect from the players than Brendan had in the period Brendan Rodgers was grasping at some stability or direction of the team.

Klopp however has higher standard but while we have a better overall "squad" than of Rodgers, we don't have world class players. consistent. zero zilch. we had guard, gerrard on our "marvellous' 2nd place but phhht. both gone.
We can nominate Couthinho but hey look, deep inside he wanted to abandon ship. really.

We need to build around Couthinho, but can we?
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 25 2017, 09:07 AM)
Fundamentally, we are not doing things befitting a club of our stature.

We are selling our best players

We continue to buy cheap and unproven talents

We continue to buy overpriced British players

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We continue to reward mediocre players with new contract and higher paid. Something is seriously wrong.

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 25 2017, 09:14 AM)
honestly I was damn upset about the whole thing before the season started. but now, meh. I think good players deserve to play for good clubs.

so yea, thanks for everything little magician. adios.

and adios top 4.

we've taken 5 steps back this season, really.
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This always happens when we got into champions league. When we get the 4th place, we always thought we could attract better players only to be let down by our management team who is taking charge of transfer activities.

QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 25 2017, 03:16 PM)
Is Klopp similar with Brendan? a yes man. Yes & No. On surface they do, i think we seen that but I believe Klopp has more respect from the players than Brendan had in the period Brendan Rodgers was grasping at some stability or direction of the team.

Klopp however has higher standard but while we have a better overall "squad" than of Rodgers, we don't have world class players. consistent. zero zilch. we had guard, gerrard on our "marvellous' 2nd place but phhht. both gone.
We can nominate Couthinho but hey look, deep inside he wanted to abandon ship. really.

We need to build around Couthinho, but can we?
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Look at the line up vs Spurs during the weekend. Out of the 11, only 2 players are bought by Klopp. You could say this is not Klopp's team yet but it's been two years so why can't he be more ruthless and get better players? It's his stubbornness to continue to stick with mediocre players. During his first year at Dortmund, he sold 18 players who were deemed not good enough. So what change? At Dortmund he had plenty of help from Sporting Director Zorc and their scouting is fantastic. So he has no choice at LFC but to stick with mediocre and pray they will turn out good because he rather put faith on players than our scouts?


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