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Kelvin5717
post Jan 3 2020, 05:55 PM

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Hi All,

Please PM if there is a support Whatsapp Group, would like to join too. We have not taken any assessment for ADS yet however we did the M-Chat assessment online and our son is on the mild category, we do planned to go and have an assessment but need to ask where to go ? is NASOM good for assessment ? where else is good and affordable ?

My son is now 23 months old and there is small red flags here and there since he turn over 1 year old but it become more intense and visible in recent months, probably because we also start to monitor and look for those red flags.

Some of the visible red flags as of now;

1. Doesn't really respond to name calling - although he does sometimes (maybe coincidence due to our noise) it took many many round of calling for him to look at us.
2. Walking tip toe - he's late to crawl but fast to walk then run, we thought this is an acceleration milestone but I read somewhere it probably wasn't..
3. Obsession to spinning things - like ceiling fans, wheels, clock and lights too.
4. Intense Obsession to straight line & repetitive - he walks up and down while looking at a straight line whenever he can find, example looking at table, fence, wire, strings its so intense that he do so regular every day (probably more than 5 - 10 x) and could do for a long duration of time.
5. Speech issue - Have not talk able to talk properly, lots of babbling as if he wants to communicate with us but only few words we have heard so far (Daddy, Papa, No, Bye, Car, Nen-Nen)
6. Does not point - After reading all info and videos of ADS (including here), we now realized that he has never pointed to anything at all using his finger until today.
7. Play by himself - although once in awhile, he's interested in chasing other running kids, most of the time he choose to play by himself or do #4 (even in playground like Desa Park City full of kids, when he suddenly saw the fence, he will just ignore everything and walk up and down looking at the fence repetitively)
8. Sensory Issue - He doesn't like to hold his food, he will take a bite, throw it, then pick-it back, take a bite and throw again but he used to hold to his food during 1YO when we train him for BLW. Certain long selves shirts (not all) also make him uncomfortable and he will cry while struggling to pull off the sleeves off his hand.
9. Hyperactive - not sure but he's full of energy and can run non-stop for hours...
10. He ask for help but everything is Nen-Nen to him - if he wants Milk, Sleep, Food, Water, Toy, Youtube, hug, carry, he will come running and mention Nen-Nen and we have to guess what he wants.. we didnt think this is serious issue until we research about it and still for a moment thought he's cute at this way...

We read that early intervention will help and we really want to start doing so, but wish to have some guidance of where we can do proper assessment and start our early intervention ? where do you do your OT and SLT ? how much and if its effective ?

Warm Regards,
Kelvin

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jan 3 2020, 05:59 PM
Kelvin5717
post Jan 3 2020, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 19 2019, 11:37 AM)
An update on my son who is now 6 years old. (standard 1 next year)

His communication improved a lot and now he is able to talk in sentences, play around with friends. but still weak in some understanding but he is improving everyday.

Academic wise, we are surprised he is very good in all subjects especially maths. his teachers are very impressed with his improvement.

We sent him to piano and art class, and surprisingly he do well there.

So to all parents , never give up and please start early intervention. the tiredness and money spent, is worth everything.  nod.gif
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Hi Squareballs, where do you bring your son for OT and SLT ? what else early intervention that you took ? how much and if you would also able to kindly recommend a place for assessment ?
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post Jan 3 2020, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(audreyreiko @ Oct 22 2019, 03:29 PM)
Sharing my thoughts as well.

I have two boys, one is 6 and one is 3, the 6 years old is fairly normal, with a little day dreaming streak and inattentiveness, but otherwise he is pretty neurotypical.

My younger boy has been found with such symptoms from 2 years old:
- Does not respond to name
- Tip toes a lot
- Speech delay
- Minimal babbling
- Infrequent eye contact
- Hyperactivity
- Temper tantrums whenever he like it
- Wakes up few times a night for milk
- Cannot do what a normal 2 year old can do
- Missed milestones in terms of social
- Cannot mimic what adults do like comb hair
- General development delay

Our mistake is he does play a lot of gadgets from small especially at my in laws place, because he is very hyperactive, so to keep him quiet when grandparents cook and do other stuff, they give him tablet, so I would say tablet is a portion to blame for this, with my elder boy when we limit his gadget time his behavior and attention also improved a little.

So we brought the small boy to clinical psychologist at ADMC (all the other famous ones have long waiting list that goes up to years) so we went to who we could, initial assessment cost RM500+ already.

The psychologist recommend him to take up EIP (early intervention classes) and go for OT and SLT, but she could not give a diagnosis yet as he was not 3 years old yet at that time.
But with another older boy to compare, we could see he is definitely not typical behavior and social milestones.
When we bring him for normal checkup even the pediatrician expressed their concerns in terms of him not speaking yet and no simple words at 2 years old.
We had him tested for hearing in sunway medical which is normal.

We started OT from Feb 2019 (till now 8 months) and started SLT from June 2019 (till now 4 months) - and just started EIP in Sept 2019 (2nd month in

Now he has improved a lot and when we compare with the "before" symptoms although he still has a lot to learn:
- Responds to name most of the time (sometimes if bad mood will still ignore)
- No longer tip toes
- Still no speech, but SLT is teaching him to vocalize his needs, he uses hand gestures for certain wants
- A lot of babbling
- Regular eye contact
- Hyperactivity - Still hyper...
- Lesser temper tantrums - possibly because he can communicate with us using hand gestures
- Still wakes up once or twice and occasionally can sleep thru the nite
- Learned more things what a 3 year old can do, wear his own shoes, drink water, go to toilet to pee
- Very affectionate and cheeky, loves to seek attention when hurt himself, asking us to kiss the painful part
- Tries to wear toy spectacles like us, knows what it is for
- Can recognize ABCs and numbers, and colors

It has been a very expensive journey so far, and we've sold off my 2nd property to enable ourselves financially to fund his therapy, we certainly would like to see better support from the government, so at least there is a future for kids like him. Till now we have not gotten an official diagnosis, but we will again visit the clinical psychologist after a few months of EIP - to get a diagnosis, and if he is confirmed to be on the spectrum (actually I suspect he is more towards ADHD than ASD) then we can apply for the disability card which will enable us to get some governmental support.

Looking forward to share more and learn more here, thank you for reading. smile.gif
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Hi audreyreiko, It sounds so promising to see improvement, is EIP the place you do all your early intervention classes such as OT and SLT ? can you share what is the cost like ? and do you do your assessment there too ? and how much ?

When you mention very expensive journey, would you mind to share how much have you spend within how long duration ?



 

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