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post Sep 15 2017, 07:33 PM, updated 9y ago

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PETALING JAYA: Bomba sedang menyiasat kemungkinan kebakaran sekolah tahfiz Darul Quran Ittifaqiyah yang meragut 24 nyawa hari ini mungkin kerana perbuatan khianat.

Pengarah Bomba Kuala Lumpur Khirudin Drahman berkata bukti dan keterangan saksi menyangkal teori awal yang mengesyaki kebakaran disebabkan litar pintas.

“Selepas pemeriksaan secara teliti dan dengan menggunakan anjing pengesan, kami dapati kebakaran bermula di luar bilik asrama di tingkat 2.

“Anjing turut terhidu kesan kimia sekitar kawasan itu, jadi kita bawa ke makmal,” katanya kepada FMT.

Khirudin menambah mereka yang terselamat dalam tragedi itu memberitahu pihak berkuasa yang mereka tidak dapat melepaskan diri dari bilik asrama itu melalui pintu.

“Ada 2 silinder gas masak di kawasan itu,” katanya.

“Silinder itu sepatutnya berada di dapur di aras bawah.”

Ketua Polis Kuala Lumpur Datuk Amar Singh Ishar Singh pagi tadi berkata polis mengesyaki litar pintas punca kebakaran itu.

Namun menurut Khirudin, Suruhanjaya Tenaga yang turun ke sekolah hari ini mendapati tiada tanda-tanda litar pintas atau beban lebih pada output elektrik.

Ditanya sama ada beliau mengesyaki kebakaran berpunca daripada seseorang yang bekerja atau belajar di sekolah tu, beliau berkata bomba belum menyiasat kemungkinan itu.

“Kita perlu tunggu sehingga ujian makmal selesai dijalankan, dan kita akan serahkan kepada polis untuk siasatan. Bila berlaku begitu (khianat), kita anggap jenayah dan jenayah di bawah bidang kuasa polis.

“Kita nak cepat sebab kes ini sudah menjadi perhatian negara, dan semua orang mahu tahu punca kebakaran,” katanya.

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post Sep 15 2017, 07:36 PM

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post Sep 15 2017, 07:43 PM

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post Sep 15 2017, 07:45 PM

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>meeanwhile kucing
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bawa anjing ke sekolah tahfiz?!?!?!
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Sep 15 2017, 07:45 PM)
>meeanwhile kucing
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:51 PM

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post Sep 15 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:46 PM)
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macam toy dog je
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:53 PM

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can we report TS for baiting title during a serious event.
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(bluecar @ Sep 15 2017, 07:56 PM)
Now the whole place must be cleansed. Bomba should train cats instead.
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They too busy training with snake.
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Kita tengok nanti yang triggered bukan yg Muslim.

Oopss dah start pun...
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post Sep 15 2017, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 15 2017, 07:53 PM)
can we report TS for baiting title during a serious event.
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ok2 dah tukar tajuk
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:46 PM)
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 15 2017, 07:48 PM)
bawa anjing ke sekolah tahfiz?!?!?!
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it's ok tahfiz ppl know how to samak. it's meleis who not so good at own religion who ezly buttthurt
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Don't see the fuss about the use of dogs. Each of God's creation serves a purpose.

The school is not considered a religious ground. And anyway, this is not a case that has to do with religion.
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:38 PM)
i never see such high rank bomba at scene before
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when you see that it means they are in deep shit for not enforcing fire safety guidelines for building safety approval/maintenance and to avoid head rolling they have to be appeared responsible in front of medias. But no heads will rolled, not even for missing an airplane.
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Kucenngg no fucks given style, makan, pura2 jinak, tidur, wake up, repeat.

Meanwhile, anjeng yg kena cari makan.
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:25 PM

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good dogs
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:39 PM

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hahahahahah come bash anjing nao

dlm skolah some more

srs: based on the message above must be something wrong.... someone moved the silinder gas
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:43 PM

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I got lipoted for saying something about anjing & that sekolah
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:43 PM

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sure. Salah orang lain. whistling.gif
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:48 PM

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Anjing jugak yg berbakti
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Asal bukan buat pet. Natang hanjing
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post Sep 15 2017, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:38 PM)
i never see such high rank bomba at scene before

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1 crown + 2 stars. He is what rank?
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:46 PM)
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What breed is that ? I tot they pakai german shepherd macam pdrm k9 ?
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QUOTE(L_nette @ Sep 15 2017, 08:52 PM)
1 crown + 2 stars. He is what rank?
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3rd highest in Bomba's ranking system. Probably state's commissioner or even higher.

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QUOTE(L_nette @ Sep 15 2017, 08:52 PM)
1 crown + 2 stars. He is what rank?
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colonel. see the bird, level 100 must put in many hours.
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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Sep 15 2017, 08:58 PM)
What breed is that ?  I tot they pakai german shepherd macam pdrm k9 ?
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This one is like hunting dog.

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wow.. plot thickening.

if it true they really wan to kill all pipul inside?
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PPIM office beside yooo...


Maybe aiming / warning at PPIM...

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Sep 15 2017, 07:45 PM)
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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 15 2017, 08:04 PM)
when you see that it means they are in deep shit for not enforcing fire safety guidelines for building safety approval/maintenance and to avoid head rolling they have to be appeared responsible in front of medias. But no heads will rolled, not even for missing an airplane.
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bro, how come bomba muslim can touching dog and smelling for chemical? When on proper and serious mission then can use anything and exception? if normal situation its not halal to touch?
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What I see is baseless clue about gas cylinders being on another floor. Possibly for storage instead of a "crime". They could have some kenduri event and only take down for those kenduri.

RIP kids. No fuss with dogs, just a school not a holy area.
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QUOTE(omaigad @ Sep 15 2017, 09:07 PM)
PPIM office beside yooo...
Maybe aiming / warning at PPIM...
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Sekolah tahfiz dont have security guard? Ground floor and 2nd floor no people that time? How come penceroboh can easily go in and bring in 2 cylinder gas and burn the place?
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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Sep 15 2017, 08:58 PM)
What breed is that ?  I tot they pakai german shepherd macam pdrm k9 ?
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these are sniffer dogs, not the "attack" type.

not sure of the breed. probably English Springer Spaniel
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QUOTE(LamTin @ Sep 15 2017, 09:16 PM)
bro, how come bomba muslim can touching dog and smelling for chemical? When on proper and serious mission then can use anything and exception? if normal situation its not halal to touch?
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You asked a damn good question, but too good for some to answer.


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QUOTE(tomyamkambing @ Sep 15 2017, 10:33 PM)
for work purpose, can lah.. Islam allows it, NO.. its not berdosa because you working with a dog for a purpose which is acceptable
then just samak after that(& samak really a simple process)

also, if keep dog as guard outside your house also OK
what Islam dont allow is to keep within  your house as pet
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post Sep 15 2017, 11:02 PM

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RIP. Sad case this one.
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 11:00 PM)
dunno how bomba name it but another 2 more star should be the highest, got flying wings means he also a chooper rescue or plane water bombing member.
different bleed use to do different job not all job can do with one dog, exp. german shephered, Rottweiler uSe to attack enermy , golden retriever for nacotic or fire arm and bomb etc.
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I see...din know that...i tot all r using german sheperd...airport also german sheperds...
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QUOTE(LamTin @ Sep 15 2017, 09:16 PM)
bro, how come bomba muslim can touching dog and smelling for chemical? When on proper and serious mission then can use anything and exception? if normal situation its not halal to touch?
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All bomba muslim meh?sure or not
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Sep 15 2017, 11:40 PM)
THIS.

It's like when dogs are needed, everything is ok and everything is excused.

When dogs are not needed at all, so much anger/hatred is shown for a mere presence of a dog.
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haram dimakan.
haram diniagakan.

orang melayu tak suka sebab bila sentuh anjing, kena samak.
melakukan samak itu sendiri mudah, tapi bila dah duduk di bandar ni, mana nak cari ramuan.

anjing masih boleh diguna untuk tujuan keselamatan, perburuan.

again, it's about cleansing after touch.
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 15 2017, 07:46 PM)
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Mana spesis yang cakap anjing haram Tu?
Ada tak komen sini?

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how you do samak?


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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Sep 15 2017, 10:52 PM)
we also confuse la ....... this cannot, name cannot, touch cannot, see cannot, thru TV also cannot ..... so we wondering what can lor .... just be nice and telling us what can la  ......... opppssss i forget diffirent ppl will said different thing.
than ok la
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For good purpose is ok la. Even if touch just samak as what I learnt after going thru so many racist thread before.
But what I don't understand is some my Malay fren told me rokok is haram. Those smoke wan say no haram.
But in the end of the day, every religion teach us to be good. That's all matter
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If really someone did this. If Kena caught kolan97firm up car. 20 over death. How to payback
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Too many tong kosong kepochi talking about Muslims and dogs... Good doggies can keep, better than good for nothing pussycats...
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QUOTE(sheahann @ Sep 15 2017, 11:58 PM)
For good purpose is ok la. Even if touch just samak as what I learnt after going thru so many racist thread before.
But what I don't understand is some my Malay fren told me rokok is haram. Those smoke wan say no haram.
But in the end of the day, every religion teach us to be good. That's all matter
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This is what i said too, no religion bring evil but way too many use religion to show their evil for personal gain ...
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QUOTE(otakotak @ Sep 15 2017, 08:01 PM)
it's ok tahfiz ppl know how to samak. it's meleis who not so good at own religion who ezly buttthurt
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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Sep 15 2017, 08:58 PM)
What breed is that ?  I tot they pakai german shepherd macam pdrm k9 ?
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This is some kind of hound. Most prolly french hound.

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Sep 15 2017, 11:58 PM)
For good purpose is ok la. Even if touch just samak as what I learnt after going thru so many racist thread before.
But what I don't understand is some my Malay fren told me rokok is haram. Those smoke wan say no haram.
But in the end of the day, every religion teach us to be good. That's all matter
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Bro, let me help you to understand.

First thing about the rokok, it is haram, even in Islam anything that is harmful to the body is considered haram. But for rokok, its only just recently being Fatwa'ed(Decided) by Saudi ulama that rokok is harmful to the body thus was haram.

As for the dog's, alcohol & pigs, it was clearly defined in the Quran that these thing's are haram n also why most malay people always tried to get away from.

About working with dogs, in Malaysia if you noticed like in police/army, they will assign the job to non-muslim people to avoid any difficulties.

In Islam, yes you can work with dogs. But, you need to do a proper samak/clean up your body before doing prayer's. This is where it's became a norm where malay people tried as hard as possible to avoid the dogs. We can work with dog's that not a problem, only the cleaning part that that are hard.
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QUOTE(yattnana @ Sep 15 2017, 07:33 PM)
“Kita nak cepat sebab kes ini sudah menjadi perhatian negara, dan semua orang mahu tahu punca kebakaran,” katanya.
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I feel really sad with this sentence.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Sep 15 2017, 11:40 PM)
THIS.

It's like when dogs are needed, everything is ok and everything is excused.

When dogs are not needed at all, so much anger/hatred is shown for a mere presence of a dog.
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BURN.
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WTF is wrong with you guys, this article is about the murder of an innocent kids, and you guys discussing about dogs.



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biasalah mesti mahu racing, incite hatred toward each other religions.

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QUOTE(LamTin @ Sep 15 2017, 09:21 PM)
Sekolah tahfiz dont have security guard? Ground floor and 2nd floor no people that time? How come penceroboh can easily go in and bring in 2 cylinder gas and burn the place?
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I dont know, never went to a tahfiz before....
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QUOTE(tomyamkambing @ Sep 15 2017, 10:33 PM)
also, if keep dog as guard outside your house also OK
what Islam dont allow is to keep within  your house as pet
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what about a pet dog that guard your house?
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This tered about tahfiz or dog? Huhu
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 15 2017, 07:48 PM)
bawa anjing ke sekolah tahfiz?!?!?!
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Why not? Got purpose. Even noah ark got pig onboard to clean those pee & poo.
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So apa kimia dikesan? Bahan kimia membuat bomb? Napalm? N-Stoff?

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QUOTE(soulknight @ Sep 16 2017, 12:12 AM)
Bro, let me help you to understand.

As for the dog's, alcohol & pigs, it was clearly defined in the Quran that these thing's are haram n also why most malay people always tried to get away from.

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Please check you facts first before tell wrong info to otherss. No dalil in Quran on dog, just in hadis...and it is not clear wheather it's forbidden or not. Among 4 big mazhab, 1 allow it...i'm not sure which.

And...this thread not a place to talk about this..so,i stop here....

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QUOTE(se7en @ Sep 15 2017, 10:39 PM)
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tahfiz terbakar, dog become issue.. for non muslim, this is not real issue la, meleis only triggered with haroom thing, true Muslims doesnt even care, they still can perform solah as usual once clean up.. ktard downgraded
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They rely on dogs now? I tot they all anti dogs.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Sep 15 2017, 11:40 PM)
THIS.

It's like when dogs are needed, everything is ok and everything is excused.

When dogs are not needed at all, so much anger/hatred is shown for a mere presence of a dog.
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err no? you're reading too unsure.gif much into it.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Sep 16 2017, 04:25 PM)
err no?  you're reading too  unsure.gif much into it.
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I'm making this comment based on an earlier comment on why non-muslims making so much fuss on this.

Hence, the reply.



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