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post Sep 12 2017, 01:33 AM

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Using airbnb to increase yr unsold unrented properties?

Why want to increase yr unsold and i rented properties?

Why u think ppl want to stay in yr properties that you cant rent out normally to normal 6mths or 1 yr tenants?


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post Sep 20 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fortezan @ Sep 20 2017, 02:06 PM)
Don't think there's right or wrong, it's all up to the landlord I believe, just curious if anyone is doing this
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WRONG

usually under std rent agreement, tenants cant rented out to 3rd party.

however usually airbnb operators will make known of their intention. no need to hide lah.

even new from developers, bnb operators bought 50 or 100 units are an open secret.

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post Sep 21 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 21 2017, 10:06 AM)
A group of friends sharing a house. Is this subletting?
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you can subletting but intention must be made aware to landlord and in agreement.

honestly how many landlord does routine check to the space they rented out unless got complaint?

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post Sep 21 2017, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(jetwash @ Sep 21 2017, 10:20 AM)
Why wouldn't it make sense?

If you've got a good location with good tourist turnover, I'd say it'll be fairly profitable.
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yes agreed....BUT only certain locations make great sense for airbnb.....

BUT in reality these days, every TDnH also do airbnb for their less demand condos or apartments, and the conditions of these airbnb are really not up to scatch.
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post Sep 21 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Sep 21 2017, 10:45 AM)
Maybe can regulate AirBNB like how they regulate UBER
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Malaysia 'regulates' hail ride services bcos our big men are having share in them, not in the best interest of public, as compared to other developed countries.

just like they 'regulate' airport taxi services.....before.

In Paris, if you airbnb out yr apartments in key tourist areas for x days per year, you could be subject to fine of Euro50k. Yes single digit for number of days. Same thing in Barcelona if not mistaken.
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jun 21 2018, 06:37 PM)
Japan manyak travelers go. After no need visa. Now Lagi manyak pigi. Also due to strong culture house design and lifestyle. Manyak travelers Suka rent Airbnb at japan rather than hotel.
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Obviously u havent been folliowing airbnb.

Japan gov has inposed law so strict that many people just gave up on airbnb.

Basically u need to get a permit and airbnb japan need copy of the permit b4 they allowed u to list.

2/3 of airbnb (i think) wiped out of the market.

But then again malaysia is no where near japan.
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Downfour @ Jun 21 2018, 04:15 PM)
Hi sifu, i planning to host my unit condo as airbnb, How to manage to pass and collect key to the tenant if u are not always available for doing these?

And the cleaning service, how to get cleaner to clean the house after the tenant move out?
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Easier way is to rent to airbnb operator.
I get fixed rental and they will take charge of renting out and upkeep.
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post Jun 22 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Jun 22 2018, 10:30 AM)
I ask owners to pls don't do airbnb unless your block is the soho or studios type . It is disruptive to other owner occupier, and too many pipu in out like hotel may cause security issue.
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pls bring it up in yr agm.
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(bsm88 @ Sep 7 2018, 08:59 AM)
may i get opinion?
plan to get one unit in jp during holiday? 1 guest & 5 guest showing different price, same unit. The unit can accomodate 5 guest and i only have 4 guest.
For local Airbnb, i usually just go with 1 guest, supposedly is by night not by guests, so long as i don't exceed the max pax that is allowed in the unit.

For Japan, i need your advice here.
Am i right or safe to just 1 guest during booking, and actual stay is 4 guests?
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I know some Airbnb don't place the extra air mattresses or any extra mattresses on site and only provide if you indicating how many pax actually staying.

BUT why need to lie and cheat? if you have 4 paxs just say 4paxs lah…...you wont be charge extra also.
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post Sep 7 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Sep 7 2018, 11:05 AM)
Yes, neighbor complaints. Baru tahu.

If it is residential, technically, it is illegal.
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Airbnb is not illegal in residential property.

if Airbnb is illegal, so does all the units for rental.
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post Sep 7 2018, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Sep 7 2018, 01:50 PM)
If management corporation say it is not allowed, that’s it. This is rule all unit holders must obey.

It will caused many kinds of problems, like security and nuisance.
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problem aside, unless and until annual meeting majority of owners voted against Airbnb,, until then Airbnb is not illegal.

also how to determine which tenants are on short, mid short, mid and long term stay?????

I notice one resi condo in KL banned Airbnb already, but you still can see vblogs Airbnb customers still happily posted their latest trip to Malaysia and stay at that condo, as latest as in the month of aug.

also some apartments banned airbnb operators, but stop short of banning owners get Airbnb tenant.\


unless and until the state or gov got involved, its very hard to implement. owner just said they are my friends instead of Airbnb customers.
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post Oct 23 2018, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(melvin471 @ Oct 23 2018, 02:59 PM)
What are the essential items that an Airbnb unit should have? (excluding bed, fan, dining table, aircond, water heater)
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internet
carpark on premises
washing machine and clothes hanger if no dryer
living sofa
wardrobe
fridge
toilet papers (kid u not, one airbnb doesnt provide toilet papers)
towels
mug or cup or glasses, spoons and other cuteries

my personal request
power point in bathroom.


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post Dec 11 2018, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Dec 11 2018, 02:21 PM)
my condo AGM vote 91% pass to doing airbnb business ....
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without given the name of your place away, mind sharing roughly location of yr building, whether its under commercial or residential title and whether its SOVO or SOFO?

also how mght intend to share the profit with Airbnb owners?
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post Dec 12 2018, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 12 2018, 11:43 AM)
I wander how did you get a 4 months straight tenant or even a 1 month straight tenant?
Through airbnb platform?
Got that high chance can capture such "long term" tenant using airbnb to book?
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yes possible bcos long term rent landlord boh hiew them.
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post Dec 12 2018, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 12 2018, 11:13 AM)
The only reason why an owner want to go for airbnb vs annual tenancy is for higher return.

Is it true that they actually get higher return ?
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roughly saja ok....dont take it as bible...

IF you can rent out yr unit via airbnb:

2 weeks of a month - you should cover yr monthly instalment or most of it.
3 weeks of a month - you should have clear profit for 1 week rent on top of instalmemt

4 weeks of a month - suggest you book a getaway holiday for yourself.


of course like most biz, airbnb is seasonal. there will be some good months, some average months and some bad months.

also wth more units vped each passing weeks, the competition is getting greater. but thanks god there are apartments that banning airbnb, otherwise really no meat.

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post Dec 12 2018, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Dec 12 2018, 11:03 AM)
Hi guys, i have been into AirBNB hosting for 6 months already. Overall the experience for hosting are quite good. Just share my experience with no racist or any offend mean.

My apartment is newly built this year and after i done my unit renovation, successfully rent out to our first locals tenants which stay for 4 months. Everything was good and nice after they check out. Well, the tenant broke some of our coffee cups BUT they manage to do replacement for us. Everything was in good condition.

Second, an foreigner stay for 3 days, well, they don't really take care of our house. Wet towel throwing everywhere (we prepared a laundry bag in our apartment), damaged our double bed frame rack stand as suspect they OVERPOWER doing the "THING" during the stay. Also, they dragged their opened luggage during the stay and left 4-5 hard scratch marks on the floor tile. Apartment in mess condition when check out, sofa and armchair moved out of place, never wash any plate or pot after 3 days stay, just throw at the sink.

Third, a group of local youngsters which stay our apartment over the SPARTAN race event. They leave our house very tidy and neat, not even any dirt stain on our apartment floor/wall even they doing the hardcore SPARTAN race on rainy day.

NOW, the fourth, foreigner staying for a months with small children and now only the 5th day, broke my cup, personally switched our shower head without giving notice. (They really brought their own shower head all the way from their country and replace ours). Complained no hot water from the shower. As my wife go to check the house this morning and water heater running good and nothing wrong with it. The guests are from a country that English is not frequent in use, so they cant really read or understand the signage/or how to use the equipment.

YET, more problem to come i suspect....I really prefer to host local guest instead of foreigner...
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can I speculate that the foreigners you mentioned about is either ME or China?

Now lets hear from an Airbnb guests prospective shall we? the places are in klang valley only with price range per night below rm200 to above rm120.

1. if you never hear of IKEA furnitures and accessories, do book one Airbnb in KL. they have showrooms all over Airbnb Malaysia.
2. whats wrong with color taste of Malaysians towards bedding???? almost all (saved for 2 units tastefully done units) are of very colourful bedsheets, pillows and duvats. why cant host just follow color choices of leading good hotels? be natural with light and dark singleton color mixes???
3. most hosts only providing el cheapo towels that you probably can get a set from pasar malam (and needless to say, they are colourful as well).
4. one unit does not provide toilet roll. Come on, I know its certain custom that they don't use toilet roll, but if you are in the biz for all, shouldn't it be provided? how expensive is one roll of toilet roll?
5. one unit only have ONE precise drinking mug in an entire unit. YES, ONE. when asked host upon check out, he said he didn't realise, and of course blame the previous guest for breaking one or two. Hmmm....wonder is there any cleaning before I checked in.
6. few units are having plastic take away utensils (fork, spoon and knife) and they weren't new set either. they have been used and re used previously. one plastic spoon cant even stand the heat of my coffee....bend instantly.
7. most units don't have reading lights next to bed. you have to turn of the main switch in bedroom and slowly walking in the dark to reach yr bed. thanks God there is mobile phone.
8. one unit only have a moveable mirror in bathroom. Yes movable. they bought from ikea (no doubt) and couldn't even bother to nail or affix on wall, just leave it over the basin.
9. one unit still have plastic wrapping sheet on their mattress. when asked if I could remove it, was told that it was there to protect the mattress. WTF, haven't you hear of mattress protector?
10. most units don't have dryers (expected), but some don't even have decent clothes hanger and pegs.
11. one unit doesn't have extra rubbish bin bag. they expect you to just use one bag in a tiny rubbish bin for all your two weeks rubbish. Yes, truly tree hugger.
12. one unit doesn't have microwave. When asked, the host told me she doesn't believe in microwave, its not good for health. I should have checked into a wellness club instead
13. most units come with very bad reception of local tv channels. most of the channels are snowing, and guess what, there aren't any cable TV or internet TV either.
14. one unit MBR doesn't have aircond bcos it was broken and host couldn't bother to fix it and he claimed their guests are fine without. I slept the entire duration in the living hall where there is aircond.

15, only less than 3 units have power plug in bathroom. I seriously dont think many guests use electric toothbrush.


well i can go on and on, but you guys get the idea.

an airbnb is not just to make money for the host, and as host, you should make yr guest feel like they are staying on their own homes. sadly many hosts resource to airbnb as alternate source of providing income without given thoughts of how a person will live in the apartment. some just throw in some soft furnitures, recylcing whatever they dont use in their home to airbnb unit, and most dont even bother to provide extra electrical appliances beside those already provided by developers.


i have my min requirements what are abbsolutely NEED to have. Imagine those units without WIFI, washing machine and secured carpark (and of course aircond).

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post Aug 26 2019, 01:18 AM

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This is 2019 n ppl still believe in airbnb fairytale?
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post Aug 28 2019, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(silverwave @ Aug 27 2019, 09:55 AM)
I meant the implications of the tenant renting it without asking the owner.
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it happened in aus before.... devil.gif
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post Aug 28 2019, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(valerie.wen @ Aug 26 2019, 08:01 PM)
Erm, actually I am newbie in property investment but as far as non-KL Sentral & non-KLCC & non-Bukit Bintang & non-airport nearby is concerned, I don't think it will work la in KV...

Maybe look at Ipoh / Melaka / Sabah / Sarawak might make a little extra sense...
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you missed out mrt/lrt linked properties.

I can think of 4 reasons why Airbnb is failing in Klang Valley

1. supply coming into Airbnb is higher than mont Everest. whatever it cant be flip or rent (lower rent than expected) owners will want to do Airbnb
2. most Airbnb is rubbish with kiamsiap owners providing sub standard el cheapo finishing for Airbnb. don't let me starting on wall painting...…
3. eventually management will ban Airbnb, it included brand new vped properties.
4. eventually Airbnb operators will kill off their golden goose with badly management with building and services
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post Sep 6 2019, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Sep 6 2019, 12:02 PM)
Nowadays AirBnB is kinda hard to do. Guests rent airbnb and though they stay in a hotel. I  hosted some guests before, they even requesting for extra towel after few days of staying, like calling the room service macam~ Excuse me, can you give me extra towel as is not enough for us, Excuse me, can give more toilet paper rolls?

What!? As i always prepare 4 towels + 4 Toilet paper rolls in the bathroom. You are staying in a airbnb, not a hotel, which will have a house keeping service! The apartment even got Washing machine + Dryer, wash and clean it yourself man.

Nowadays guests have lost their definition staying in a AirBnB. All they know is airbnb is cheaper accommodation option compare to hotel which can fit large group of people.
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on the contrary I have the opposite experience to you as a guest of Airbnb.

granted fully agree with you on the tidiness of the house. guest should expect to keep the house as clean as when they checked in. Noted some areas might not be possible such as change of all linen bedsheets and towel before guest leaves.

I do stay at Airbnb on a longer 'short term' rent, from 2 weeks to a month most times.

these are my observation

1. is one set of rubbish bin plastic bag enough for me for the entire months stay? are guets started stealing these plastic bags if owner leaves them in the unit?

2. luckily I am not the person that indulged in toilet papers usage, 3 to 4 rolls of toilet papers sufficed for 30 days ?

3. there are washer and dryer, but no clothes washing liquid or powder.

4. there is clothes hanger but no pegs, or pegs with no lines or have both but no balcony.

5. most TV provided is a joke. unless you want to watch every channel and every show on heavy snow setting.

6. most of units have mismatched cockery and cutleries. A proper dining knife is almost impossible to find, so does tea spoon. and the collection of these items is like they just picked these up from junk warehouse sale.

I understand that many Airbnb owners are not that rich to model their homes to some international hotel's ID features but at least do use your common sense a bit. there are areas you really cant saved if you are part of the hospitality industry.

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