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post Mar 5 2018, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Mar 4 2018, 11:17 PM)
My family buys the same number for more than 20 years

Finally kena 1st prize, but of course small small only la, bought RM1 since we do it as a tradition rather than investment. So yeah, at the end 4D is still gambling, don't treat it seriously and have fun looking forward to the draws
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That's the correct and right attitude! It's a bit of fun and excitement, and that's all it should be.I look upon it as a bit of entertainment....and if one strikes a jackpot from a very modest bet, that's a bonus smile.gif

U know how ppl like to buy the numbers of cars in an accident? To my thinking, how can the numbers of unfortunate accident cars be lucky? Last year I took note of the accident photos posted in /k, and monitored each number for 3 draws in MTK...none were drawn biggrin.gif
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post Mar 6 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(everest @ Mar 6 2018, 01:22 PM)
5751
I had a dream and saw this number
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Reversed searched the number biggrin.gif

Have you been fantasizing of making lots of money lately??

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post Mar 6 2018, 11:34 PM

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Looks like everest was a little off the mark....

5652 was drawn in toto AND magnum as special prizes smile.gif

Edit: korekted a typoo

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post Mar 7 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 7 2018, 06:46 AM)
Yes yes the dream number abit off but is there on that day's draw. 😆
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5751 is there? I had checked yesterday's MTK and there were no permutations of it.
Maybe I missed seeing it...had I bought the number I'd have paid more attention biggrin.gif
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post Mar 7 2018, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 7 2018, 12:47 PM)
Sorry for miscommunication....what i meant to say is the toto came 5652 from the dream number 5751,partially....it was close. I bought also hehe in toto only, becoz i made a remark "toto interesting woh"

Thousand apologies.
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No worries lah! smile.gif

Old ppl say that dream numbers must buy for 3 draws...maybe you'll have better luck today!
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post Mar 7 2018, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Mar 7 2018, 06:07 PM)
actually dream number cannot tell people...nanti masuk angin  brows.gif
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post Mar 8 2018, 07:25 PM

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Maybe this app can help TS burn fewer candles smile.gif

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...4ds.my4ds&hl=en
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post Mar 9 2018, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(DozeMeWithTea @ Mar 9 2018, 11:42 AM)
Can i go toto 4d jackpot and buy i-system 10 LP?

Not sure how it works.
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Yes u can.
i-system 10 lucky picks will cost u RM20.

Costs and prizes: http://www.sportstoto.com/how_to_play/scri...t4djackpot.html
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post Mar 9 2018, 10:58 PM

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Dunno if the app's predictions are ok or not smile.gif

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post Mar 10 2018, 05:33 PM

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Giving it a try for fun smile.gif

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post Mar 13 2018, 04:14 PM

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No "feeling" to buy any numbers this week, and for the near future...but I'll be observing smile.gif

This documentary may be of interest http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/prediction-numbers.html

If it's not available in your location, jack sparrow it wink.gif
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post Mar 15 2018, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Mar 15 2018, 03:22 PM)
saturday n sunday lucky number ............... 1.3.9.2 ....  cheers.gif  cheers.gif
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Curious to know why those numbers are lucky for that period.
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post Mar 15 2018, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Mar 15 2018, 04:13 PM)
lucky number ma, feel lucky, like the number, just buy it ..... maybe you are lucky, u kena, deswai call lucky number ..  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
4d number is a random number, very hard to predict, just buy the number u like la .....
but dont buy big big, cos in the end 99% u will lose money, buy small small, just to have fun ....
if u wanna win big, should buy 4d jackpot, small investment but big return  icon_idea.gif
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Aiyaaa....I thought u had a dream/premonition/calculated a prediction/bought a new car...so from what u said, your lucky numbers are deemed to be lucky because if they strike, they're lucky biggrin.gif biggrin.gif





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post Mar 16 2018, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Lithium Hirumi @ Mar 16 2018, 11:55 AM)
Hi ts, wta is it ok to buy number in advance? For example i buy today for tomoro and sunday.
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toto: can buy up to 8 draws in advance
if i recall correctly magnum and da ma cai's advance sales is up to 6 future draws.


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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 16 2018, 02:58 PM)

because i saw quite number of time after one number comes out in one house it will come into other houses as well, looking as possibilities.

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I have noted at least 6 such "waves" in the past 2yrs 8 months. I'm using water as an analogy because I'm not a mathematician/statistician. One number lands in one house, and the splash it makes causes waves/ripples to "carry" the number to another house, and sometimes there is "splashback" into the first house.

The last instance of such a "wave" was during CNY period with 2617 (and it's permutations) in Toto and DMC...splashing back and forth. That wave is now over...and i'm back to my usual no-buy-observe-only mode...till the next wave comes along.

It's human nature to want to look for "patterns" in everything, and to neatly pigeonhole/classify observed phenomena. Maybe this "wave" thing is erroneous and totally without basis? I dunno lah biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2018, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 16 2018, 03:41 PM)
Noted.

That's why i created the new feature and to put it into the Magnum/Damacai/Toto to try out and see which high payout number will come in all 3 houses. If lady luck smile upon us.

With my new feature inside my data is not enough to pick number, must compare it with other website to see the frequency of their hit by week/month/year also. 😆😆😆

Too bad i can't take care of the other 4 type of houses, will be too tedious for me for now hehehe, else can explorer more.
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Here's the kicker question: as long as one is relying on statistics to predict future outcomes of numbers drawn, how would one resolve that practice with the adage of "chance has no memory"?

If chance has no memory indeed, then the probability of any set of numbers being drawn is exactly the same in every draw. That would effectively render futile all methods of probability-based predictions, would it not?

And if one were to go along with the premise that chance does indeed have a memory, I'd like to know the basis for such an assumption.

Mind you, I'm not trying to denigrate your candle-burning efforts at all. However I feel that certain hard questions must be answered first if one hopes to create a plausible and strong foundation for a method of forecasting numbers.


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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 17 2018, 09:33 AM)
Very good question indeed.
Now let me give an easy example......i had some e perience on eating at the highway RnR stall.
Most if them sell the same dishes/same prices/same quantity.
Everytime i stop by lunch hour only 2 stall are full pact instead of the 5 available. Why is that so?? Food taste the same hehehe. Something to ponder over.

Now coming back to these numbers. I did this data so that the number of hits is shown. Some numbers come often some less often. It doesn't mean that they don't.

I am trying to to filter for the best chances to hit/strike the best payout possible, to the best of my knowledge.

I look at the frequency of strike hits that comes instead of plucking/programming system to find my needed numbers.

I open this thread so that whatever i try will be shown to all. So that those test that may be good, i will continue to improve, those not producing results, we stop and try another way.

Learning is never ending, or until we are six feet under.
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Hmmm. I can't really see any correlation/parallel between popularity of certain food stalls at the RnR with outcomes of number selection. Do enlighten me!

However from the rest of what you wrote, it's clear that you are hinging on the premise that chance does have a memory (re: "I look at the frequency of strike hits").


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Thank you for your detailed explanation...I've read it 4 times and believe I now understand your approach.

Data of past occurrences in of itself will not predict anything. It is the INTERPRETATION of such data which allows your current process of prediction, or the development thereof.

IF I've read you properly (and do correct me if I misunderstood):

Your main goal seems to be to predict a pattern of when, where and if a set of numbers will recur. As I mentioned before, I've noticed such happenings in the past, so this interests me very much. I've also spoken at great length to 2 people who use tiny cellphones and cute little bluetooth thermal printers wink.gif , and they both acknowledged that they had also noticed the same thing.

You have arranged your data so that it is easier for you to see when and where a recurrence of specific sets of numbers will occur; or conversely when and where specific sets of numbers did NOT occur.

I'm sorry but i have to once again ask a very hard question: as long as you're relying on statistics to form your basis of prediction, doesn't it mean that when all is said and done, you're still working on the premise that chance has a memory? It's just that you're interpreting/correlating/cross-referencing distinct sets of data in a different manner.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time nor am I trying to split hairs, and I would dearly love to have a system/formulae/methodology of rationalizing the "waves" of numbers that I've observed. Often I've pondered what triggers such waves, and till today I have no answer. If the trigger(s) of such events can ever be found, it would be very fun!



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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 17 2018, 04:32 PM)
INTERPRETATION is the correct term  rclxms.gif
Re: chance has a memory? Sorry nope, i am not relying on it and am not able to help you, in that matter.
Rationalizing the "waves"??, as long as i find that pattern, i will follow it like ants to sugar.

I don't rely on system either, as i want clean/simple data in a easy format so that anyone can use straight away.
Thanks for the questions, i will try my best to answer, if it can help you move further to the next step  biggrin.gif
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It will be most interesting to see how you'll interpret the data without relying at least in part to the premise that chance has a memory. As long as past data is utilized, it is already an unavoidable consequence. If chance has no memory, then all past data is essentially meaningless and irrelevant to methods of prediction and interpretation which do use past data. biggrin.gif

And a pattern is in itself a system or may be used to formulate a system. All this may be just inconsequential semantics to some, but I think it's important to realize the distinctions.

I'd love to hear how u plan to interpret your data. As I am neither mathematician nor statistician, I'll try to help by playing devil's advocate! Maybe it can open up new lines of thought.


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QUOTE(amazze @ Mar 17 2018, 05:44 PM)
When i completed this data feature and start to decide/predict the number to wager on,
if comes out it will be good.  I really don't have answer to everything, i just can try my best.
To debate on what is a system/programming, that i am not able to do.
I am just trying to think simple and make thinks simple from the beginning till now.

These data that i arrange is just to show me what i want. To me, it doesn't make it a system,
just plain raw data arranged.

So people will start to call my data, a prediction tool/ a system? As long as it can help them, i guess they may call it whatever they want.  tongue.gif

I am sharing these data on this forum as i think it may help them wager wisely and don't bet blindly.

# I pick i wager i strike i put money in wallet, that is my ultimate goal,
if it helps someone along the way, it's a bonus for me, to see them happy,
i ask for nothing in return except that they help others, less fortunate, when they have the means. thumbup.gif
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TS You're a nice guy, and u definitely have good intent. And I kept that in mind when I took the effort to type so much over the past several posts of mine. May you have success in deciding/predicting numbers!

The following is directed at another /ktard (who shall remain unnamed):

See? I told you so! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif U owe me RM20!! tongue.gif tongue.gif

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