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skylinelover
post Nov 6 2017, 08:38 AM

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Bye bye title doh.gif bangwall.gif

Dont think this team can repeat 1997 again

Newcastle could have won that year if not 4 the cantona escape and still is their strongest line up ever

QUOTE(chaiyya345 @ Nov 6 2017, 07:54 AM)
City...mmm eversince they have Aguero, the become more goal machines more than a team
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QUOTE(xSean @ Nov 6 2017, 02:19 AM)
Confirm cannot win title but hope can make it top 4
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Top 4 is over rated

Should be maintain 2nd all the way in deep bruce.gif

QUOTE(Lynixx @ Nov 6 2017, 02:31 AM)
you can count arsenal out from this list laugh.gif
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And liverpool too laugh.gif

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limjenson
post Nov 6 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Nov 6 2017, 02:42 AM)
So now fans finally realize we have a lot of bang average players? But many still only see Mhiki, Herrera etc. not many talking about our wingbacks....

Other teams have been getting better fullback/wingback, we still stuck with Valencia and Young lol.

I remember many praising Valencia as the best RB.. look how many time our attack stops when the ball goes to him.
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Been saying that Valencia is overrated. He can't cross, can't beat his opponent, can't pass with his left foot. He's too one dimensional. The ball reaches him, all momentum is dead. Rather play Darmian here but JM being JM always having his favorites.
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QUOTE(limjenson @ Nov 6 2017, 09:15 AM)
Been saying that Valencia is overrated. He can't cross, can't beat his opponent, can't pass with his left foot. He's too one dimensional. The ball reaches him, all momentum is dead. Rather play Darmian here but JM being JM always having his favorites.
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Darmian better than valencia???.darmian can attack better than valencia?..can cross better than valencia?...seriously?...
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QUOTE(wongth7 @ Nov 6 2017, 09:29 AM)
Darmian better than valencia???.darmian can attack better than valencia?..can cross better than valencia?...seriously?...
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Yes. He can cross better than Valencia.
When was the last time Valencia crossed or his crosses beat the first defender. The defender just need to cover the byline and Valencia doesn't know what to do. Then pass back.

He's a better defender than Valencia. Valencia only advantage is that he can run back fast and cover.
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post Nov 6 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Nov 6 2017, 09:43 AM)
Yes. He can cross better than Valencia.
When was the last time Valencia crossed or his crosses beat the first defender. The defender just need to cover the byline and Valencia doesn't know what to do. Then pass back.

He's a better defender than Valencia. Valencia only advantage is that he can run back fast and cover.
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nah, this I disagree.

though valencia is one dimensional, his slightly better than Darmian.

also, can't single out him alone if the team as a whole played well, and the cause of defeat was just Tony alone.

Everyone seemed off bar De Gea and maybe Rashford.

Lukaku can't dribble in a small space, Miki has disappeared in the last few games, Matic got dispossessed a number of times with Herrera, Baily playing quite nonchalantly, and when the subs entered, nothing much they could do to create chance cause the 1st eleven were already playing at a laboured pace.

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QUOTE(tontolou @ Nov 6 2017, 09:55 AM)
nah, this I disagree.

though valencia is one dimensional, his slightly better than Darmian.

also, can't single out him alone if the team as a whole played well, and the cause of defeat was just Tony alone.

Everyone seemed off bar De Gea and maybe Rashford.

Lukaku can't dribble in a small space, Miki has disappeared in the last few games, Matic got dispossessed a number of times with Herrera, Baily playing quite nonchalantly, and when the subs entered, nothing much they could do to create chance cause the 1st eleven were already playing at a laboured pace.
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Darmian cause isn't helped by the fact he hasn't been played in his main position (RB) for many games in a row to build up momentum. Often shafted to LB, Benched.

Tony doesn't really contribute much to the team offensively at all imo. At least you can see Young attacking the flank and sending a few crosses in.
Tony just run, see defender, pass back. Even when he's close to the box, he still can't beat the defender and just pass back. It makes our offense very predictable. Not only for this game but the past few games.
When the team is playing well, his weakness isn't that glaring and he can focus defensively. But when the team needs an outlet for attack, here's where he fails.

If we were change fullbacks, I rather we change Tony first before LB. Not singling him out for this defeat but his position is one of the priority for replacement imo. When you don't have creativity in the middle of the park, your flanks is the next best weapon.
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:31 AM

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hmmmmm... have to buy messi la nx year
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post Nov 6 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(sheng @ Nov 6 2017, 10:31 AM)
hmmmmm... have to buy messi la nx year
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Messi next year free agent liao i think lel. Thats why barca panic
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maybe is tactic itself? always park the bus. it's hard to watch a parking bus for most of the game and then lose. agree with comment above. fh is 50/50. but sh looks like play not to lose instead of win. not sure is the tactic or the desire problem.

and it's frust to see long punt to lukaku and he lost all the take down. at least pokok win half of it.

yesterday heard commentator, jose last 10 away games against top 6... 5 draw 5 lost. omg.


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post Nov 6 2017, 11:22 AM

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lol already meltdown...
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it's funny how every players got blamed after losing this match...
herrera-fan's favourite last season herrera, suddenly fans dont wan him to be in the team
valencia-one of the most consistent RB for the past few seasons, suddenly bash him gao gao say no creativity..rather use darmian which was much inferior (that was kena bash also last time) lel
mikhi-remember how u guys scream for jomo to let him play last time?..1 or 2 good matches and everyone was in heaven..now everyone was screaming him to be dropped..lel

yea...most of the players didnt play well yesterday, but dont forget jomo's defensive tactics are going to have issue sooner or later. once kena bocor..and need to start attacking, everyone seems forgotten how to play football.

still remember last time fans are saying pep cant do much out of LaLiga & bundesliga where competition are not so tough?...now how?..lelel
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QUOTE(nasrulafiq93 @ Nov 6 2017, 02:13 AM)
Lukaku is a joke
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Lukaku is always a joke, never liked him, positioning always off.
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now everyone wants ibra to come back...but when he plays..everyone say he is too slow and wasting alot of chance..lel

haih...x tau la...
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The number 10 has no one to do quick passes to, do you know why? Our rb,lb,cm all didnt make run off the ball. If you still didnt see we have multiple player need upgrade then im not sure since when you started watching manutd play.

I have been saying valencia and the lb, or rw need upgrading. I never rated valencia as best rb in premier league...i have been criticising him ever since he play so one dimensional in RW!

And our attack lack game changer like what the other teams have. Martial and rashford is still too raw.
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post Nov 6 2017, 12:33 PM

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this season is definately gone unless we keep winning (including 2 manchester derbies) and city lost another 1 or 2 games...which i dont see it happening at the moment...
at least we are better compared to under moyes and LVG...losing to one of the big 6 is never good but we are still second and everyone is upset because every team challenging for the title is now being compared to man city...they do have a 8 point lead and doesnt look like even drawing a match let alone losing one...we just have to maintain this gap (hope it recudes somehow) until the first manchester derby, which is a MUST win game for us...

players wise...we have not been performing well since that liverpool game...maybe it is a mental switch which is difficult to switch from defending to attacking just like that...JM needs to devise a plan if his defending plan goes wrong when we conceded first...hope pogback returns soon
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not good enough but cant believe the meltdown doh.gif

this aint the same chelsea against roma.. this is chelsea tht won the league and score 4 last season. kante is back and hazard finding form.

we need pogba now.. he can strength the spine back. hope he aint far from return. good to see fellaini back hope he can find form back also.

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