So i just registered a new number yesterday and today i try to register and login for whatapps
once i login whatapps there were 2 group in it and i was like wtf? new number ady got group?
so i ask in the group anyone know this number and the previous owner pm me.

so does telco recycle all terminated old number? if those few year old i understand if they recycle...
but only 1 months ago ady recycle?? anyone encounter something like this before?


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well its just how it is. As soon as the number expires it will go back to the pool. If you happened to be assigned or choose that number then you get it

like i say those old like few years i can understand but this one only 1 month...
and for a new user if very annoying and like not secure as i will be linking this number to many personal stuff like bank or something like that.
and those who are friends to the old user or happened to have this number will be calling me... and talking about unknown calling i got 2 call today...

Phone number is already depleting so I won't be surprised if it's recycled so soon.

won't wait for few years before recycle the number. where have u been all this years???

previously I think around 3month..

now looks like it's 1month period since someone mention, numbers are depleting fast..

been in a hole?

Not surprising at all ... digi is very aggressive ... but with limited number to assign its makes perfect sense to recycle an unused pool as soon as possible. Don't assume that only numbers of few years old will be recycled ...

whatsapp no problem, can exit the group anytime. Better than debt collection agencies looking for previous owner, 6 days a week up till 9pm also call. Worst, they didn't believe you that you are the new owner. I had this experience from my Celcom number bought few months back.

well ady check with digi they say can request to change number...

ikr and i ady got few call looking for old owner

It's a standard by most countries to control the 'inflation' of phone numbers in fear of having to end up having ridiculously long telephone numbers in the future. Imagine 012-1234567890123456789 as a phone number one day.

However by adding another digit in the area codes will help as well. Countries like the U.S. has 3-digit area codes.

My relative have encounter his 20 - 30 years mobile number auto terminated by telco due to went to oversea and account suspended due to outstanding. He might forget to convert to Prepaid at the time being, therefore when he noticed number was terminated he quickly clear all outstanding and request back the VIP number, it takes like months the case not resolved because the telco doesn't want to release back the VIP number they keep it for themselves zz.

It's typically normal for numbers to be recycled fast..
Friend of mine have bad experience.. Previous owner have huge debt.. The collector keep calling day & night..

So in the end change number..

Buy 11 digit no
Konpem not recycle
011-xxxx xxxx

false unless new 011-6xxx xxxx.

Sorry asking stupid question..
Nowadays all telco uses 011 prefix right?? Only the first digit after 011 prefix is different??

Eh bro .... you where got asking stupid questions? This is perfectly valid one la ...

All the 011 numbers are not given/assigned to telco in huge blocks like before ... I ask some dealers about this so they said SKMM assigned the first 2 digit and only 1 million only per block assigned. For ex: DiGi, 011-26xx-xxx, Onexox, 011-20xx-xxx, Umobile 011-21xx-xxx.

If you get onexox new starter packs then it is lower probability to get a recycled number at the moment (simple reason: 28 months validity is a long time for quick recycling ... and also SKMM assigned onexox 2 million new numbers last year) ... even Voopee numbers last very long time ... I've already seen recycled Digi and Umobile 011 numbers though.

Hehehehe who knows maybe some think I asking stupid question

Oh 1 mil numbers only.. That's kinda small yo.. Easily can finish around 1 year if not mistaken..

Anyhow thanks for the info..

whatsapp system is not your telco system.
whatsapp only see your number, not the ownership changes behind the number.


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you login to whatsapp, then try to close down the whatsapp account altogether. it's somehwere in the menu. see if that will clear things up after you register anew.

I did this account closure before, although I didn't change number.

just answer 1 question
if the number was not registered before me, how is the number active in whatsapp?

and the point here is not about whatsapp

you misunderstood.

any msisdn is recycleable. and judging by how active our mobile users are, slim chance that you'll be getting virgin numbers. my primary line registered ~7yrs ago already have 3 users before me.

how long a deregistered number gets recycled and re-offered on the market, it's up to the telco.

it just happened to be that you snapped up a msisdn (new, from your point of view) a month after it was deregistered by previous owner.



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of course your msisdn already have an active whatsapp since it was registered for by previous owner. *duh*

telco and whatsapp have no relationship. yes, the telco already cleaned up its own relationship with previous owner. but whatsapp does not have that deregistration detail. you can't blame whatsapp for maintaining the account opened by previous msisdn owner as account was never cancelled.

I had same issue with rhb. previous owner didn't pay celcom bill; got deregistered. then I registered. but since rhb have no relationship whatsoever with celcom, it never dissociate the number from previous owners, and until today rhb still refuse to clean up and stop sending TAC to me. hell, even all his/her whatsapp contact chased me instead for his/her unpaid monies.

u r the one who misunderstood the thread
i think u better read again on what TS is asking or the point of TS open this thread
on the 1st post hes asking/complaining about telco recycle the number so fast and not talking about whatsapps
he just mentioned that get know the number was recycle via whatsapp when he 1st login and saw there were active group in whatsapp
but you keep point that he blame whatsapp

and he did not blame whatsapp for the active group (and again u need to read again) and not delete the group or whatsoever

i think the main point here is TS pissoff for getting a recycle number and not complaining about whatsapp lool

ok, I misread the rant because I see whatsapp all over.

but still, why rant about the number get recycled too early or too soon.

it won't change the fact that it is recycled, and it wont change the relationship with any contact who had this number before. and it will still show up already registered in whatsapp one year later.

next time read first and read properly

and why u butthurt haha

I only see nee number - recycle - whatsapp - complain

the moment when some too butthurt to read properly

I believe all 3 main telcos digi, maxis and celcom is fast recycled. Especially for their assigned main prefix 012, 013, 017, 019 and 016. Chances of getting calls or texts looking for previous owners are high compare to the not so hot prefix 011, 010, 014 or maybe 018.

Anyone here that want to use Celcom in the future, please avoid 019-2613656.

What a nightmare of using this number. Debt collector, insurance, loan agent keep calling me to collect debt, promote new products and so on.

Now I'm using number started with 0111, I feel so happy, no more disturb from unwanted call.

If you guys want to use new number, I suggest you take number started with 0111 ....

This post has been edited by xpole: Sep 6 2017, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the info..
share it to my friends & family..

We can make 1 thread just for listing the problematic number.