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Do cafe have a social responsibility to provide, public toilet service?
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SUSgsem984
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Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM, updated 9y ago
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My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around.
There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free.
ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe.
hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me?
just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too?
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smallcrab
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Aug 25 2017, 09:59 AM
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Put signage Collect RM1 per use for non customer.
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desmond2020
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Aug 25 2017, 10:00 AM
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You put big bug sign there
Toilet tidak ditanggung halal
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Baconateer
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Aug 25 2017, 10:01 AM
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ask ur staff to lock the toilet la..if customers wanted to go..ask staff..
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acbc
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Aug 25 2017, 10:02 AM
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Put signage for the following.
RM 1 per entry. RM 1 for tissue. RM 1 for water.
Confirm they won't use again.
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slaveone
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Aug 25 2017, 10:02 AM
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put sign - toilet for paying customers only
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SUSMatrix
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Aug 25 2017, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? No. Put a non halal sign at the toilet to ward them off.
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SUSgsem984
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Aug 25 2017, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(slaveone @ Aug 25 2017, 10:02 AM) put sign - toilet for paying customers only You underestimate the number of illiterate in Malaysia.
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Jasonist
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Aug 25 2017, 10:04 AM
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lu masuk lu mati!
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SUSMatrix
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Aug 25 2017, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 25 2017, 10:02 AM) Put signage for the following. NON-PAYING CUSTOMERS: RM 10 per entry. RM 10 for tissue. RM 100 for water. Confirm they won't use again. Fixed
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quartre88
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Aug 25 2017, 10:05 AM
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u bos besar satu tandas pon lokek topkek
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slaveone
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Aug 25 2017, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 10:04 AM) You underestimate the number of illiterate in Malaysia. put in emoji/emoticons then
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touya_zell
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Aug 25 2017, 10:06 AM
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lock the toilet
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steven_phs
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Aug 25 2017, 10:07 AM
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Nice, whats ur cafe name? I also want go visit..... the toilet
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Fyonne
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Aug 25 2017, 10:07 AM
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Enthusiast
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redirect em to lorong belakang punya longkang.
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ycs
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Aug 25 2017, 10:07 AM
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just lock it
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buysellaccount
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Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(Dickon Chong @ Aug 25 2017, 10:07 AM) if really so many people using it, u can consider make a counter to collect money like public toilet business is business 50sen per entry nope, tak boleh.
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desmond2020
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Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM) Why?
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alanyuppie
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Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM
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troll them by asking the staff to lead them to the back entrance longkang .
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buysellaccount
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Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM) majlis tarak kasi. you no toilet oso kenot. die die you have to build one.
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mattsynyster
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Aug 25 2017, 10:09 AM
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ummm yeah your non customer will surely get noted by searching for this thread
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desmond2020
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Aug 25 2017, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM) majlis tarak kasi. you no toilet oso kenot. die die you have to build one. Lel Don't joke lah lol
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SUSgsem984
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Aug 25 2017, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM) majlis tarak kasi. you no toilet oso kenot. die die you have to build one. correct answer.
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mattsynyster
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Aug 25 2017, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 25 2017, 10:03 AM) No. Put a non halal sign at the toilet to ward them off. so the the non halals non-customer can use the toilet then??RACIST!! This post has been edited by mattsynyster: Aug 25 2017, 10:10 AM
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SUSMatrix
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Aug 25 2017, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(mattsynyster @ Aug 25 2017, 10:10 AM) so the the non halals non-customer can use the toilet then??RACIST!! Put some other sign to ward off the non-halal non paying customers. Please recummend one.
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rupart
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Aug 25 2017, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? u really hv tricky issue there
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CyberSetan
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Aug 25 2017, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? put a security coded or passcard locked door for the toilet which only customers are given the codes. If non-customers want to use the toilet, they have to go to the counter, pay up and only then get the code/passcard.  Problem solved. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Aug 25 2017, 10:13 AM
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H1nk
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Aug 25 2017, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Aug 25 2017, 11:13 AM) put a security coded or passcard locked door for the toilet which only customers are given the codes. If non-customers want to use the toilet, they have to go to the counter, pay up and only then get the code/passcard.  Problem solved. Do u know how expensive the fking thing is ?
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kahjye
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Aug 25 2017, 10:35 AM
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easy la brother.
put a signage ,
toilet is for customer only else charge.
easy lo
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Buffalo Soldier
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Aug 25 2017, 10:40 AM
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I have been in this situation a few times. Sometimes when "emergency"... I will use the facility at mamak restaurant. When all is done before walking out of the restaurant... give the cashier RM1.
Some cashier will said "tak payah la bos", some cashier will put the money in "tabung derma masjid" thats usually besides the cash register.
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SUSkoolio
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Aug 25 2017, 10:41 AM
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1. lock the toilets 2. hang a big sign to read 'toilet is for paying customers only' in 4 languages 3. train your staff to greet these people and say no when they ask for the keys.
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EternalC
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Aug 25 2017, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 25 2017, 10:03 AM) No. Put a non halal sign at the toilet to ward them off. this only applies when its maruah challenging but when it comes own selfishness, halal haram it doesnt apply anymoar *donedakwah
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Ckmwpy0370
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Aug 25 2017, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 25 2017, 10:02 AM) Put signage for the following. RM 1 per entry. RM 1 for tissue. RM 1 for water. Confirm they won't use again. u need a Maid to standby to control and monitor
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CyberSetan
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Aug 25 2017, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(H1nk @ Aug 25 2017, 10:33 AM) Do u know how expensive the fking thing is ? he said his place was at a 'prime' area, so he shouldnt have problem buying that. This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Aug 25 2017, 10:56 AM
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Ckmwpy0370
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Aug 25 2017, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(Buffalo Soldier @ Aug 25 2017, 10:40 AM) I have been in this situation a few times. Sometimes when "emergency"... I will use the facility at mamak restaurant. When all is done before walking out of the restaurant... give the cashier RM1. Some cashier will said "tak payah la bos", some cashier will put the money in "tabung derma masjid" thats usually besides the cash register. RM 1 ? good
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skylee18
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Aug 25 2017, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? its super easy, put a signboard there, kindly ask staff for accessing toilet then lock it up -- solved out of 100, i think only 10 thicked face non-customer people will dare to ask staff to open, but at least you avoid the 90
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Chrono-Trigger
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Aug 25 2017, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? you can charge them, they do that in Europe.
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Kim Bi Jan
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Aug 25 2017, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(petang makan maggi @ Aug 25 2017, 10:37 AM) eh why triggered pulak? i thought its common nowadays and its better to let inform up front?
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Chrono-Trigger
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Aug 25 2017, 11:02 AM
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i mean they tak malu ask to use your toilet, you also should tak malu to ask them to pay.
RM1 per entry. That is fair.
Toilets in Europe are not free, they charge for using toilets at MacDonalds, even for paying customers.
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rupart
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Aug 25 2017, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 25 2017, 10:35 AM) easy la brother. put a signage , toilet is for customer only else charge. easy lo yalo...simple ayam sapot
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cHaRsIeWpAu^^
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Aug 25 2017, 11:05 AM
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just put a signage there - toilet only for customers.
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adamhzm90
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Aug 25 2017, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 25 2017, 10:08 AM) majlis tarak kasi. you no toilet oso kenot. die die you have to build one. so by right bank also need to provide to customer la right?
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buysellaccount
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Aug 25 2017, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Aug 25 2017, 11:06 AM) so by right bank also need to provide to customer la right? bank? i don't own a bank, mang. i wouldn't know.
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Mel2
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Aug 25 2017, 11:32 AM
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At prime area?
Can charge non-customers. RM1 per entry.
Is your cafe, order and pay first, then serve the food? If yes, then assign a junior staff to look after the toilets. Ask for receipt, to allow to use toilet.
A bit troublesome. Customers may complain. Maybe you put up a notice there, nicely written. Ppl will understand.
Make sure the toilets are clean and dry all the time. Ppl don't mind paying.
Some mcd in Europe do that, if their outlets are small. Big ones ok, can pretend to be customers then go toilet first. Haha.
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jfarm86
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Aug 25 2017, 11:45 AM
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Just put a sign there " Toilet For Customer Only ", normally when ppl saw the sign will not go in. Unless some emergency case.
And train ur staff, if observe non-customer using the toilet. Charge them
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supermoto
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Aug 25 2017, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Aug 25 2017, 09:58 AM) My cafe in PJ is at prime location. Lot of people walking pass everyday, maybe due to nearby banks around. There are always people pop into my cafe to pinjam toilet, of course, they are not our customers. Some more, my cafe is non-halal, but still there are awek and pakcik to come in to use our toilet for free. ok, i let you people use the toilet free, the water is free to you, also the tissue is free to you. then you make my floor wet, water tap never off properly and let water run wastefully. and your dirty shoes with tahi anjing step all over my cafe. hello you people, you are not my customer, and what entitlement do you have to do this to me? just because i have cafe means i have to provide a public toilet too? Easy solution instal glass door and ur staff standing at the door and serve only customers
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