Hi All,

Glad to find this forum!!! Looking for some help from all expert here. I used to ride Mongose. Due to busy schedule, haven't ride for almost 2 years. Putting some weight now and need to start again. Suddenly my daughter want to use it in her college. Now, I need new one. I bought my Mongose for RM700. So now I am thinking of getting below RM1500. After browsing this thread and V5 thread, I've narrow down my choice to:

1. XDS K1
2. XDS K2
3. Java Pro4
4. Java Fit
5. TRS Victor
6. Trinx Flybird 2.0

I am only using it for exercise in the weekend. Not a hardcore. No plan to upgrade. My route always Taman TAR in Ampang for about 1 - 1.30 hour.
Which one give me more value for money in term of durabality and some riding comfort. If other brand in the list is available, feel free to suggest.
If I can get it cheaper is better

Thank you in advance
Alpocot

Thank you for your reply. Java Pro and Fit is only slight small different price, which one is better?

Thank you sir. 451=22" , 406=20" right?

Hi All,

Newbie here. I got this Java Ira after reading some recommendation from this long forum I am using it mainly for exercise purpose. Have a few questions and appreciate it if all the experts can advice me.

1. After riding for almost 9 months. mostly on weekend, the paint on the rim touching the brake seems to came off.
I notice the rim is DECAF. Most of the rim I saw on Java folding is DECA. What is the different? Is DECAF is knock off for DECA?

2. I am still quite puzzle about the 20" tyre size between 406 and 451. What i understand is 20" is outside diameter of tyre. 406 and 451 is inside dimater of the rim.
Doesn't mater if you use either rim, the outside diameter is still the same. The 406 tire will be thicker. But when I browse for information some picture when they
put side by side 451 is visibly bigger. Some say it's 22".

3. Since 451 is more difficult to get and more expensive too, is it recommended for me to I change to 406? Some say 451 will ride faster, but if 20" diameter is the same, I don't think there'll be different, or Am I wrong?. I am not really concern about faster ride since my route is all same 4-5 rounds taman TAR

Thanks in advance
Al

Thanks for the answer. Actually I was thinking if the size is the same, might as well change to 406 if it is easy to obtain. Looks like the size size is not the same.

Haha from Mr Google . Actually form this forum also especially from early entry.

Good to hear that it east to get. My DECAF rim came with CST. So that mean the term 20" for tyre is not really the same diameter size between 406 and 451?
Is 451 rim easy to get here? Which recommended replacement for 451 rim for DECA/DECAF?

Thanks
Al

This post has been edited by alpocot: Aug 19 2020, 09:26 AM

Thank for your recommendation. Actually I was looking for cheaper one, but I get quite good price for that. I read a good recommendation for Java Ira from this forum, and the color looks nice too . I think Taman TAR in Ampang have a decent track for my cardio. I can get around 15km for 5 rounds.

I guess you're right