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 What do you think about future Cyberjaya, Realistic or Ghost Town

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post Sep 4 2017, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 4 2017, 12:26 PM)
Today what I can see CJ supporter don't really hard sell CJ, can read the thread from beginning, not many ppl keen to defend negative opinion. Instead, icy is more agreesive and desperate to bring down Cj, as usual, she never changed smile.gif

Help indecisive to make decision? Ppl make few hundred K decision by visit the location, feel and see the actual environment. Ppl make investment decision with their own due diligence. Some forumer over estimate themself and think the noise here can affect their decision, no way man. For those buyer who don't like to do their homework, no way u can save them, they will make mistake anytime anywhere ...
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there are many types of home buyers. Ultimately hardwares and softwares, dollar and sense can only do so much.

its down to the 3rd factor - the emotion decision making.

its true that the ultimate decision to buy cyber for outsiders is not you and me. we both gained nothing by contributing here. So why there is still a thread about Cyber? that's mean ppl are still looking for verification.
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post Sep 4 2017, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 4 2017, 12:34 PM)
not a good place or right timing to invest now except some landed property.
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just to share something I read in TheEdge many moons back.

its basically said in time of not so good economics, both ownstay highrises and landed will suffer in them of asking price (for subsales). However landed proven over time and time again will recover MUCH faster than highrises in any given location and time frame.

of the 3 categories of landed, SMDs are gold compared to links and bungalows.

the above report concentrated on key housing areas outside KL cbd.
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post Sep 4 2017, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 4 2017, 02:03 PM)
The statement should rephrase to almost all projs nowadays are not good for flip, not just cyberjaya la smile.gif
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Some new flips u still can get 10 to 20%.

Cyber new flip if can get 10 to 20% then alll same same.
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post Sep 4 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 4 2017, 02:09 PM)
std across.. and everywhere also has non performing props. Cant really pick a few from auction or iproperty.
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Nobody talks abt auction here.

Am just saying if newly vped property tis yr im cyber can make 10 to 20% gain....then all same same.

I dont follow cyber subsale market.
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post Sep 5 2017, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(mindful @ Sep 5 2017, 01:21 AM)
I think a Cyberjaya City Center project alone will not make cyberjaya much more vibrant. You need a private world class medical center and international school or other world class project but sadly this is not done by setia haruman or our government.  It is chicken and egg story for them. If you keep selling land and end up they build cheap houses, the whole cyberjaya will leave behind. Maybe Najib can do better if he put more effort??
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Jibby has his hands full w 1mdb trx pnb merdeka n bdr malaysia.

Setia haruman never sells cheap land. Developers cant build cheap housing in cyber. Not for the past 10yrs or so.
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post Sep 5 2017, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Sep 5 2017, 07:08 AM)
Some ongoing progress

SJKC Union - 2018
Hospital Cyberjaya - 2020
MRT Cyberjaya - 2022
MEX Extension Cyber-KLIA - 2020
Cyberjaya City Centre - 2025
Selangor Cyber Valley - 2025
Rumah Pr1ma - 3 projects - 2020
Rumah Selangorku - 2 projects - 2025

Still much to do before cyber reach maturity.
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Cyber 'celebrated' its 20years anniversary May this year, an ideal forged by Dr. M in 1997.

by 2022 (mrt2 operational) Cyber would be 25yo

by 2025 (CCC operational??) Cyber would be 28yo.
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post Sep 5 2017, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Sep 5 2017, 10:01 AM)
Yes it is. Good progress right in recent years... not the initial 15 years.
KL how many years dy only have MRT?
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keke.......

you missed the point.

many areas already booming even before or without lrt and mrt. devil.gif

if KUL baru can boom after MRT, mampuslah kami semua.

and pls invest also in sg buloh, since mrt already started.

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post Sep 5 2017, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Sep 5 2017, 11:14 AM)
Icy and bean - since u guys are so professional and expert, pls share us which project which area that you actually bought? Don't be just like a keyboard hero.
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Soros,

open forum like this is not suitable to 'show hand'. Beside I am no expert in this fields. if I got credential, I will be given talk and charge for 121 session jor.

but what I can tell you is that twice I came close to buy cyber. One was with SEG smd, unfortunately the model that I liked had all been taken. Otherwise we would have been in the same boat (literally) goyang sana sini in the 'cystal clear' water off the Bund. Another time was hyve soho.

Personally cyber can have everything in the world but for me, what missing from it is more concerning me, and I still prefer the new world mixes with the old world. Everything spanking new in a whole big township scare me.
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post Sep 5 2017, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 01:23 PM)
yea, it just a personal preference....correct me if im wrong, u mentioned before u are trying to prevent ppl to make their biggest investment mistake in their life ? even cyber supporter never said cyber is the best investment place...instead we keep remind ppl be cautious when u invest in cyber, cyber is not good for investment. Then, who are you to say invest in cyber is the biggest mistake, honestly if you and me so expert can see the future, we wont be tcss here.

I don't see CJ supporter hard sell CJ, the development pipeline are facts. I think haters more desperate to bring down cyber rather than supporter hard sell CJ.
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sorry I see investment and buying for own stay is the same thing.

also I don't see that in order for one area to make money, another area needs to make losses.
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post Sep 5 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Zres @ Sep 5 2017, 01:29 PM)
I wonder why they choose CJ, a well known private school from UK, repo on the line.

Honestly I think Bangsar, MK or damansara would be the safer choice of location to establish their 1st branch outside UK.

Besides, Malaysia 1st Korean school were opened last year sept.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2...006200315F.html

why CJ ?  hmm.gif I will choose ampang or MK if u ask me.
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not every company will make the correct biz sense.

lot of them based on 'best budget', 'best forecast' and hand tied situation.

But like one smart person said, IF YOU NEVER NEVER TRY, YOU WILL NEVER NEVER KNOW.
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post Sep 5 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Sep 5 2017, 02:30 PM)
Selangor Cyber Valley welcomes new developer
Monday, April 3rd, 2017

Selangor Cyber Valley (SCV), previously known as Selangor Science Park 2, developed by the Selangor State Development Corp (PKNS), received a boost with another new developer entering the fray to develop 24.21 acres of land.

As part of the SCV development, PKNS will also provide 2,256 units of Selangorku houses in stages beginning next year.

The development of SCV, the 11th urban centre by PKNS, on a 526ha site in the Sepang District is estimated to take 20 years.

Azlan said the urban centre would be equipped with a high-speed broadband service for commercial and residential use in line with its urban development concept, which emphasises “work-live-play”.

SCV can be accessed from the South Klang Valley Expressway, the Elite highway and the Maju Expressway, and is a 15-minute drive from the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
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finally opening up commercial land for residential.
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post Sep 5 2017, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 5 2017, 02:56 PM)
bukit beruntung was advertised/promoted as 2nd pj, many facilities were planned and residential were sold out.

there are many similarities in hope/vision between cbj and bukit beruntung.
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no lah.

bukit takberuntung was touted as the biggest recipient IF the rumour was true that the new airport was going to build up north. Guillible people took the bite and suffered.

another township was sungai buaya.
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post Sep 6 2017, 03:35 PM

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make no mistake....Cyber thread like this divides debates into two distinct groups

cyber fansi - those actually vested in cyber.
cyber haters - those not vested in cyber.

and there are odd ones in between, like one that works in cyber, super fansi but cant afford cyber, and another one like cyber but not working in cyber therefore gave cyber a miss.

but funny why the TS who vested 5 properties in cyber decided to open this thread and talk about his concern over Cyber?
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post Sep 6 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Sep 6 2017, 10:06 AM)
MRT2 - 2022 (cyber 2 stations)
ECRL - 2024
HSR - 2026
MRT3 - 2027
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geng lah you....

HSR pun masuk dalam Cyber.

What else Cyber cant have? BBB Cyber. devil.gif
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post Sep 6 2017, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Sep 6 2017, 08:20 PM)
Actually arh this bean n icy got nothing to do but to increase post count in LYN. Full of nonsense with repeated phrases again and again. Hater will always zoom in negative n ignore the positive.
Typical looser type of keyboard p@$$y.
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Wat do i get by increasing post count?

Lyn will give me a medal?
Lym will give me coupon so that i can redeem something useful in village grocer?
Lyn will tied my post count to post n fly so that i can free airticket with air asia?

Do i see forumers constantlu give -ve comments in dpc bangsar damansara even kepong cheras kajang?
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post Sep 6 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(kcy1606 @ Sep 6 2017, 04:29 PM)
I think he just listed out the target completion year of all rail projects (not only those related to CJ) for our comparison and information, as ECRL and MRT 3 are not related to CJ also.
These are public info. Everyone can easily access them.
What is the point of providing a list of infra in cyber thread?
Maybe he jjust like taiko soros said 'increase post count ke?'

Is he going to update us the progress of trx bbcc bdr malaysia and pnb118 here as well?
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post Sep 7 2017, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Sep 6 2017, 10:48 PM)
I would if trx bbcc bdr malaysia and pnb118 is in cyber....
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why? cyber mrt cant go to these places?

I thought you were saying Cyber mrt can go take HSR in Bdr Malaysia leh

berri confusing. bangwall.gif
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post Sep 7 2017, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(MSS @ Sep 6 2017, 11:20 PM)
Yea, Im looking higher rate return rather bleed every month, talk about starta properties, every month need to serve maintenance fee, not only the loan instalments, some people forget about that.

other likes maintenance of house itself, quit rent, assessment.
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insurance, repairs and maintenance dan macam macam.

Cyber is not for investment. Its good for ownstay and you must have holding power. Perhaps you should consider moving to cyber.
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post Sep 7 2017, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(MSS @ Sep 6 2017, 11:30 PM)
xyyap, if you willing to buy, i willing to sell to you all include Tamarind which is still under con and next year will completed, do call me if you really wanna buy.

why i asking here because i already ask agent to sell my unit 1 year ago, but till today ZERO call unless i sell 20% ~ 30% below market, if i sell below market means i need to topup to settle my bank loans.
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sorry below market means below cost price?

in other places market price is usually 20-30% above SPA price. And your loan is 10% to 30% below SPA price. Still got pretty good margin.

Unless your property's market price is same as SPA price.
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post Sep 7 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Soros007 @ Sep 7 2017, 11:05 AM)
Nobody ever said that Cyberjaya is the "bestest" liveable town.
No cyber fansi hard sell this place and it's only yourself and bean keep bashing it to bring down the place with all kind of nonsense. I start to believe u not only dumped by ex-BF last time but get robbed by someone thus you hate to MAXIMUM this place? Like it buy it, don't like it just stay away. Even you got a point also don't need to keep bashing it like no tomorrow.
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no cyber fansi hardsell this place?

come on....just look at your above post.......

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