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post Aug 11 2017, 04:53 AM, updated 9y ago

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which should i get guys? i like the look of the MSX and the red color.

but should i just get the msx or is the z125 pro is better?

im about 172 cm and 65kg in weight. anyone got experience in this 2 motor before?

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post Aug 11 2017, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 11 2017, 04:53 AM)
which should i get guys? i like the look of the MSX and the red color.

but should i just get the msx or is the z125 pro is better?

im about 172 cm and 65kg in weight. anyone got experience in this 2 motor before?

Better you go to the bike shops to sit and feel. blush.gif
In fact last week a friend of mine did the same. He went to 2 bike shops to sit and get a feel. wink.gif

I previously rode a KSR and liked it because can easily get parts and can upgrade cc using Takegawa big bore kit. brows.gif
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post Aug 11 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Aug 11 2017, 09:38 AM)
Better you go to the bike shops to sit and feel.  blush.gif
In fact last week a friend of mine did the same. He went to 2 bike shops to sit and get a feel.  wink.gif

I previously rode a KSR and liked it because can easily get parts and can upgrade cc using Takegawa big bore kit.  brows.gif
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i would go this weekend to test, but i scared i just impulse buy the Honda because i like the looks more. How's the top speed after upgrading big bore kit? those KSR are carburetor right? What about serviceability of honda? do you have any experience on that? This would be my 1st bike that i buy with my own money, so bike ownership is new to me, never experience any brands in Malaysia except for my family's ex5..


Anyways, I don't think i will touch any performance mods on this bike though. It is just used for commuting to my office, which is like 2 km away, but in the morning with the jam, it takes almost 15 minutes with a car... Hence i am considering a mini bike tongue.gif I'm more poisoned on aesthetic mods though. I just saw 1 MSX modded into a mini cafe racer in Art of speed.. Hnghh

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 11 2017, 02:13 PM)
i would go this weekend to test, but i scared i just impulse buy the Honda because i like the looks more. How's the top speed after upgrading big bore kit? those KSR are carburetor right? What about serviceability of honda? do you have any experience on that? This would be my 1st bike that i buy with my own money, so bike ownership is new to me, never experience any brands in Malaysia except for my family's ex5..
Anyways,  I don't think i will touch any performance mods on this bike though. It is just used for commuting to my office, which is like 2 km away, but in the morning with the jam, it takes almost 15 minutes with a car... Hence i am considering a mini bike tongue.gif I'm more poisoned on aesthetic mods though. I just saw 1 MSX modded into a mini cafe racer in Art of speed.. Hnghh

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I've test ride Z125 Pro during Art of Speed... and my friend's MSX125. Frankly, the ride and handling not much different for 125cc bike. Nimble and light thumbup.gif Some very minor differences. Better for you to go to any bike shop, have a sit on both. Closed your eyes, and buy.... hehehe thumbup.gif Or buy both whistling.gif

Spare parts wise, should be no big issue, Kawasaki, you can go to Glenmarie, straight to them. thumbup.gif And for Honda, plenty Honda shop too.
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post Aug 11 2017, 05:01 PM

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6 months ago, I went and checked out these, and one more, Benelli's TNT135. I bought the latter, and it's now got almost 6000km on the clock. Ride to work almost daily (near only, 3km). The high mileage is from taking it for spins after work as I used the bike for practice for bike license. It's my first ever motorcycle, and no problems so far, touchwood.

Why I chose the TNT135 over the MSX and Z125?

1. The handlebar clearance over the knee. I'm 178cm tall, need the clearance to avoid hitting the knee.
2. The number of gears, the TNT135 has 5, the others only 4.
3. Price - TNT 8k, Kawa 9k+, Grom 11k.
4. Looks - this one personal preference, but I especially liked the tail hugger and twin pipes on the TNT. Also, the white colour option highlights the red trellis frame prominently.
5. Displacement - 135cc vs 125cc on the rest.
6. Adjustable rear shocks.
7. Fuel tank 7.2l (250km)

As for max speed, 115kmh tops, then speed limiter kicks in. But vibration on handlebars starts around 100kmh. Drivability wise, I have no previous experience on bikes so I can't compare, but I can say it's hell of a fun bike on its own merits.

As for parts, can order from Segambut KL or Penang (HQ) - SYM M-Force. Original or aftermarket mods can order from Taobao thru local agent but not cheap. Just go to taobao site.

Happy hunting!

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post Aug 11 2017, 05:06 PM

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One more thing forgot to mention, these 12in rim bikes will feel everything uneven in its path, so when you test, see if you are ok with the bumps and potholes.
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post Aug 11 2017, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 11 2017, 02:13 PM)
i would go this weekend to test, but i scared i just impulse buy the Honda because i like the looks more. How's the top speed after upgrading big bore kit? those KSR are carburetor right? What about serviceability of honda? do you have any experience on that? This would be my 1st bike that i buy with my own money, so bike ownership is new to me, never experience any brands in Malaysia except for my family's ex5..
Anyways,  I don't think i will touch any performance mods on this bike though. It is just used for commuting to my office, which is like 2 km away, but in the morning with the jam, it takes almost 15 minutes with a car... Hence i am considering a mini bike tongue.gif I'm more poisoned on aesthetic mods though. I just saw 1 MSX modded into a mini cafe racer in Art of speed.. Hnghh

Even if you like the Honda more, it's still a good idea to spend a bit of your time to try the Kawasaki too.
After you try back to back and still decide on the Honda, then by all means, beli jer...
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Yes, at that time, the KSR was carb.
Takegawa big bore kit is good for the torque. Top speed not too much but when climbing hills (or overtaking vehicles), you will appreciate it. drool.gif
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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 11 2017, 02:13 PM)
i would go this weekend to test, but i scared i just impulse buy the Honda because i like the looks more. What about serviceability of honda? do you have any experience on that? This would be my 1st bike that i buy with my own money, so bike ownership is new to me, never experience any brands in Malaysia except for my family's ex5..

My last Honda was the Future, before that Wave Ultimo and Wave S.
Future had lots of QC issues like burnt our tappet O-ring (several times), noisy fairings after 1 year of normal commuting, wooden feeling front brake, etc...
But it's OK la. bangwall.gif
Wave Ultimo and Wave S no such problems.

So for MSX, I'm out of touch with the after-sales issues.
Perhaps you can find some online Malay language bike forums or FB owner's page to find out more. hmm.gif

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post Aug 15 2017, 05:13 PM

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i know you like these bikes but practicality wise better get a scooter or kapcai.

1. ada basket (kapcai)/underseat (scooter) to carry things
2. same speed as those 2 fun bikes
3. can choose semi auto, auto or clutch bikes
4. cheap maintenance
5. spare parts easily available in all bike shops
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post Aug 17 2017, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 11 2017, 05:53 AM)
which should i get guys? i like the look of the MSX and the red color.

but should i just get the msx or is the z125 pro is better?

im about 172 cm and 65kg in weight. anyone got experience in this 2 motor before?

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I also have the same dilemma as u do..

which one to chose from.. kawa or honda..
which is worth money to buy
already tested Rhino 125 and benelli TNT 135 ( both are great Fun Bike ) and the price are reasonable.
(due to it brand )

and so i have already tested the K125 pro ,done some research from one website to another..( all the review are thumbsup.gif and they are no major porb with the K125 pro)


but have not tested yet honda MSX 125.. but has seen it on street..
and so will try to find nearby dealer and tested the MSX first..
also if u guys had any info ..please do share

Fyi.. The HONDA GROM is the same as MSX ..
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post Aug 18 2017, 11:03 AM

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Here's a video on a brief comparison. Have fun choosing. By the way, the Benelli is the only one with 5 speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdO5HDv3VXM
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post Aug 20 2017, 09:19 AM

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Well, my first hand exp with grom, great handling, fuel consumption is about rm 8 ron 97 for 240+km and I like bigger tire and its style and the seating is great. Its all about preferences. I like grom fast acceleration though. I am more burst speed kind of guy than top speed maniac.

here is another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1G5lgbj74Q
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QUOTE(Soulaz @ Aug 17 2017, 04:53 PM)
I also have the same dilemma as u do..

which one to chose from.. kawa or honda..
which is worth money to buy
already tested Rhino 125 and benelli TNT 135 ( both are great Fun Bike )  and the price are reasonable.
(due to it brand )

and so i have already tested the K125 pro ,done some research from one website to another..( all the review are  :thumbsup:  and they are no major porb with the K125 pro)
but have not tested yet honda MSX 125.. but has seen it on street.. 
and so will try to find nearby dealer and tested the MSX first..
also if u guys had any info ..please do share

Fyi.. The HONDA GROM is the same as MSX ..
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Saw one unit red Grom at Eang Chun Setapak today, u can go look see if interested

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post Aug 23 2017, 04:31 PM

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any reason for small fun bike? for around the same price, you can get fz150 or y15zr/rs150r. even can get modenas pulsar ns 200/rs 200
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post Aug 23 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(chikuera @ Aug 23 2017, 04:31 PM)
any reason for small fun bike? for around the same price, you can get fz150 or y15zr/rs150r. even can get modenas pulsar ns 200/rs 200
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Hobby and fun. fz150 or y15zr/rs150r is kapcai or anything under 600cc is kapcai (lvl for me), why not buy a stylish kapcai one instead. I can buy 600cc and above if I wanted to, but i am not a speed maniac guy and usually go offroad adventure when have time, those huge tire help alot. Plus side, if u like attention, those bike is the one. Like honda monkey 125. Its all about preference. Probably will save some money to buy honda rebel for lul/ monkey...ugh... decision..
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QUOTE(Soulaz @ Aug 17 2017, 04:53 PM)
I also have the same dilemma as u do..

which one to chose from.. kawa or honda..
which is worth money to buy
already tested Rhino 125 and benelli TNT 135 ( both are great Fun Bike )  and the price are reasonable.
(due to it brand )

and so i have already tested the K125 pro ,done some research from one website to another..( all the review are  thumbsup.gif  and they are no major porb with the K125 pro)
but have not tested yet honda MSX 125.. but has seen it on street.. 
and so will try to find nearby dealer and tested the MSX first..
also if u guys had any info ..please do share

Fyi.. The HONDA GROM is the same as MSX ..
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i have tested both, i feel MSX feel more stable than 124PRO. maybe because of tire size. MSX use wider front tire. I think i will go ahead and get a red MSX laugh.gif

QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Aug 20 2017, 09:19 AM)
Well, my first hand exp with grom, great handling, fuel consumption is about rm 8 ron 97 for 240+km and I like bigger tire and its style and the seating is great. Its all about preferences. I like grom fast acceleration though. I am more burst speed kind of guy than top speed maniac.

here is another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1G5lgbj74Q
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thanks bro, i also felt that MSX is more stable. will go ahead and purchase a MSX nod.gif

QUOTE(chikuera @ Aug 23 2017, 04:31 PM)
any reason for small fun bike? for around the same price, you can get fz150 or y15zr/rs150r. even can get modenas pulsar ns 200/rs 200
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i just like the looks bruce.gif power isn't everything bro. for me, 100kmh is more than enough since my area got like traffic light every 200m. Kapchai like y15 is good, but i just like the look of the MSX
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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Aug 23 2017, 10:48 PM)
Hobby and fun. fz150 or y15zr/rs150r is kapcai or anything under 600cc is kapcai (lvl for me), why not buy a stylish kapcai one instead. I can buy 600cc and above if I wanted to, but i am not a speed maniac guy and usually go offroad adventure when have time, those huge tire help alot. Plus side, if u like attention, those bike is the one. Like honda monkey 125. Its all about preference. Probably will save some money to buy honda rebel for lul/ monkey...ugh... decision..
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I'm getting Rebel too. Just for fun... thumbup.gif Not into speed anymore. Not that young anymore. whistling.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Aug 23 2017, 10:48 PM)
Hobby and fun. fz150 or y15zr/rs150r is kapcai or anything under 600cc is kapcai (lvl for me), why not buy a stylish kapcai one instead. I can buy 600cc and above if I wanted to, but i am not a speed maniac guy and usually go offroad adventure when have time, those huge tire help alot. Plus side, if u like attention, those bike is the one. Like honda monkey 125. Its all about preference. Probably will save some money to buy honda rebel for lul/ monkey...ugh... decision..
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yes, it is definitely a looker and head-turner. I like both style but the engine is too small for that price.

QUOTE(xemoboyx @ Aug 24 2017, 08:48 AM)
i have tested both, i feel MSX feel more stable than 124PRO. maybe because of tire size. MSX use wider front tire. I think i will go ahead and get a red MSX  laugh.gif
thanks bro, i also felt that MSX is more stable. will go ahead and purchase a MSX  nod.gif
i just like the looks  bruce.gif power isn't everything bro. for me, 100kmh is more than enough since my area got like traffic light every 200m. Kapchai like y15 is good, but i just like the look of the MSX
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msx is called Grom like out of Malaysia?

if yes, probably want to check out this


QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 24 2017, 09:25 AM)
I'm getting Rebel too. Just for fun...  thumbup.gif  Not into speed anymore. Not that young anymore.  whistling.gif  sweat.gif
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reveal ur age!!

i currently have fz150i..eyeing for dual purpose or adventure bike as my next stage..probably versys x250 or benelli tr502. cb500x also looks nice
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QUOTE(chikuera @ Aug 24 2017, 10:48 AM)
yes, it is definitely a looker and head-turner. I like both style but the engine is too small for that price.
msx is called Grom like out of Malaysia?

if yes, probably want to check out this

reveal ur age!!

i currently have fz150i..eyeing for dual purpose or adventure bike as my next stage..probably versys x250 or benelli tr502. cb500x also looks nice
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Lets go for a Rebel test ride. At Welly Team Cycle. Available for test ride starting coming September. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 24 2017, 11:27 AM)
Lets go for a Rebel test ride. At Welly Team Cycle. Available for test ride starting coming September.  thumbup.gif
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Was just at Welly Team Cycle Subang, sadly the Rebel not in yet, but they will be doing a demo ride either end September or October near their shop, which they said they'd announce via their FB 2 weeks in advance. The model is a 500cc, comes with ABS tagged at RM 31k+

Also sat on the MSX125 (new colours are blue and purplish). Between the Honda Grom, Kawa Z125 and Benelli's TNT135, I'd still vouch for the TNT135 mainly due to it's design ergonomics which feels closest to a full size naked.
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QUOTE(Mikahl @ Aug 26 2017, 02:48 PM)
Was just at Welly Team Cycle Subang, sadly the Rebel not in yet, but they will be doing a demo ride either end September or October near their shop, which they said they'd announce via their FB 2 weeks in advance. The model is a 500cc, comes with ABS tagged at RM 31k+

Also sat on the MSX125 (new colours are blue and purplish). Between the Honda Grom, Kawa Z125 and Benelli's TNT135, I'd still vouch for the TNT135 mainly due to it's design ergonomics which feels closest to a full size naked.
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Rebel will come. Sat on it during Art of Speed few weeks ago. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(haturaya @ Aug 27 2017, 02:18 PM)
Rebel will come. Sat on it during Art of Speed few weeks ago.  thumbup.gif
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Dang.... missed that event. I'm almost 6ft and I heard the Rebel's seat is pretty low. Anyhow, let's wait n see, I'm in no hurry.
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QUOTE(Mikahl @ Aug 28 2017, 01:42 AM)
Dang.... missed that event. I'm almost 6ft and I heard the Rebel's seat is pretty low. Anyhow, let's wait n see, I'm in no hurry.
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At 6ft, it might be a bit uncomfortable, anyway, I'm waiting for a test ride. thumbup.gif
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rhino 125 catched my eyes..where can view2 around pj ?
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rhino 125 catched my eyes..where can view2 around pj ?
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Never seen it in any motor shop I've recently been to. Maybe u can check with the dealers:

http://www.ktn.com.my/dealer.html

Max speed 90+ kmh
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just go mudah there got rhino! alot

http://www.mudah.my/Malaysia/Motorcycles-1...rhino&so=1&st=s
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QUOTE(Mikahl @ Aug 11 2017, 05:01 PM)
6 months ago, I went and checked out these, and one more, Benelli's TNT135. I bought the latter, and it's now got almost 6000km on the clock. Ride to work almost daily (near only, 3km). The high mileage is from taking it for spins after work as I used the bike for practice for bike license. It's my first ever motorcycle, and no problems so far, touchwood.

Why I chose the TNT135 over the MSX and Z125?

1. The handlebar clearance over the knee. I'm 178cm tall, need the clearance to avoid hitting the knee.
2. The number of gears, the TNT135 has 5, the others only 4.
3. Price - TNT 8k, Kawa 9k+, Grom 11k.
4. Looks - this one personal preference, but I especially liked the tail hugger and twin pipes on the TNT. Also, the white colour option highlights the red trellis frame prominently.
5. Displacement - 135cc vs 125cc on the rest.
6. Adjustable rear shocks.
7. Fuel tank 7.2l (250km)

As for max speed, 115kmh tops, then speed limiter kicks in. But vibration on handlebars starts around 100kmh. Drivability wise, I have no previous experience on bikes so I can't compare, but I can say it's hell of a fun bike on its own merits.

As for parts, can order from Segambut KL or Penang (HQ) - SYM M-Force. Original or aftermarket mods can order from Taobao thru local agent but not cheap. Just go to taobao site.

Happy hunting!
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Hi I am shortlisting this to my buylist...may I know what is your feedback after 1 year?
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If you are worrying about the clearance between knee and handle bar just change the handle bar and you are good to go. I changed mine and it felt so different, in a good way.

I am 178cm
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If you are worrying about the clearance between knee and handle bar just change the handle bar and you are good to go. I changed mine and it felt so different, in a good way.

I am 178cm
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Feb 25 2018, 05:33 PM)
Monkey bar tros bang. Layan
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QUOTE(dudester @ Feb 21 2018, 04:23 PM)
Hi I am shortlisting this to my buylist...may I know what is your feedback after 1 year?
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I've posted my review on my TNT135 here:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4533317
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we got selling honda msx125 acceceries part,or other about msx sparepart or modifield can visit our facebook page tq
https://www.facebook.com/JS-Mini-Bike-Accec...62528491081160/

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How about KTNS Rhino 125 (Razkull in other markets outside of Malaysia)?
I recently kena poisoned on fun bike and coincidentally I am thinking of getting a Motorcycle license. I am 178 cm, 75 kg. Would look odd to be on fun bike? Thinking of daily driving this to work.

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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Jun 21 2018, 12:51 PM)
How about KTNS Rhino 125 (Razkull in other markets outside of Malaysia)?
I recently kena poisoned on fun bike and coincidentally I am thinking of getting a Motorcycle license. I am 178 cm, 75 kg. Would look odd to be on fun bike? Thinking of daily driving this to work.

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tried on Z125 Pro, it feel small and my leg was still too long for it😂 not sure about rhino, but I think definitely it will
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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Jun 21 2018, 12:51 PM)
How about KTNS Rhino 125 (Razkull in other markets outside of Malaysia)?
I recently kena poisoned on fun bike and coincidentally I am thinking of getting a Motorcycle license. I am 178 cm, 75 kg. Would look odd to be on fun bike? Thinking of daily driving this to work.

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Might be 'oversized' for this bike. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TanJy1814 @ Jun 21 2018, 05:02 PM)
tried on Z125 Pro, it feel small and my leg was still too long for it😂 not sure about rhino, but I think definitely it will
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So did you get any fun bike? you are also 178 cm?

QUOTE(haturaya @ Jun 21 2018, 07:19 PM)
Might be 'oversized' for this bike.  sweat.gif
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hahaha...dang. then have to go with kapchai liao


KTNS looks bulkier than the other bikes though.
And at a lower price. Along the 7-8k range.
I think there is an even cheaper alternative, Demak Sprinter....but lol...Demak has shut down.

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So I went to see the KTNS rhino...my friend said the bike doesn't seem as small as expected for my size.

 

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