Hey there, I'm from SINEGY. We're launching our OTC and exchange for MYR support soon.
Luno Malaysia, Your experience, reviews, thoughts
Luno Malaysia, Your experience, reviews, thoughts
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Jan 4 2018, 01:31 PM
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Hey there, I'm from SINEGY. We're launching our OTC and exchange for MYR support soon.
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Jan 4 2018, 01:33 PM
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Yes. Don't think its a BNM issue as all exchange operators have consulted and receive supervision from BNM. More likely a commercial issue with Maybank itself.
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Jan 4 2018, 02:21 PM
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Jan 15 2018, 03:28 PM
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We're planning to launch our exchange next week in light of Luno's tax issues. However, our min deposit would be MYR5k and above. Since there are quite a number of people here looking for MYR pairings, we should gather's everyone info for early KYC.
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Jan 15 2018, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(palai85 @ Jan 15 2018, 04:29 PM) We're a company called SINEGY, website is still underway but you can check us out at www.sinegy.com or https://www.facebook.com/sinegydotcom/ for our pre-launch activities. We're in contact with BNM and SC towards a regulated environment, meaning stringent KYC protocols etc. |
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Jan 15 2018, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(palai85 @ Jan 15 2018, 06:30 PM) Tentatively the exposure draft by BNM (by the way its not a confirmed regulatory framework yet) covers more on developing a Know Your Customer process flow. So as an exchange (whether OTC or trading platform) we'll have to collect full particulars of our customers much like every other exchange. As a reporting entity we also have to submit reports on the digital currencies we offer, the fiat pairings, estimated volume and transactions from time to time. |
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Jan 15 2018, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 15 2018, 05:22 PM) min RM5k, sounds weird to me. kyc when all existing players stop accepting new member.... have you guys even speak to BNM yet ? Yes BNM has been consulted and is aware of our company. We're launching 2 services related to the exchange: a marketplace (like Coinbase, CoinHako) and a trading platform (Luno, Gdax etc..)One of the reasons for the proposed 5k min. deposit is to create a barrier of entry which helps us to streamline our operations, to simply put, it's more worthwhile to manage high value transactions that low value transactions which require the same amount of work. For small value transactions, there will always be the p2p platforms like LocalBitcoins and Remitano. Also, the key issue isn't with BNM, commercial banks are more reluctant about adopting crypto than BNM. They do not appreciate their services are being used as a gateway, banks like money staying in with them. |
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Jan 22 2018, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(dirkgently75 @ Jan 21 2018, 11:45 PM) Looking at the volumes on Luno, my guess is they want to keep Luno traders locked in so there is no flight of coins. The exchange probably controls about 80-90% of the volume which explains the price being kept higher than the BTC actual value. if you keep an eye on the buy and sell walls, you can see they're banding it in the 70k range and it seems deliberate. Otherwise we'd have seen the drop like the rest of the world. Now, it may be a matter of 'protecting' Luno traders from panicking and losing out 30% or more, or it may be a matter of keeping them 'locked in'. What it does mean for investors is loss of confidence no matter what they're doing. There was a very simple workaround to all this but they seem like cowboys who jumped in with guns a-blazin and now the traders are left in the lurch. I'd say crypto trading is officially dead in Malaysia for now, except for the P2P platforms which I have very little trust to deal with. Can some vets suggest how one may trade through singapore? Singapore's recent regulations seem to be retroactive on crypto trading. Previously there were several major exchanges supporting SGD pairing and even deposits. (eg., itBit Quoinex)Most basic traders are just trading on Coinhako, but it's not the best platform as there's no visible orderbook on the liquidity available. For fiat deposit/withdrawals I think most Singaporeans are going for Quoinex which was previously a SG company but has shifted over to Japan to be one of the fully regulated exchanges over there. Solid trading features, even supports Margin but slightly questionable volume and horrible customer support due to the influx of trades. This post has been edited by weichi: Jan 22 2018, 06:25 PM |
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Jan 22 2018, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jan 22 2018, 10:39 PM) You made a good point. People still die die stay in Luno because Luno price is 20-30% higher than market price. If you transfer out and sell, you loss that 20-30%. So it is a gamble. By the way, if the issue been solved, i believe immediately the price will back to market price. So no point keep money in Luno in my opinion. You risk your own money there! It is already higher, so you can always sell now and keep the fiat in Luno's system. Either withdraw when systems are back online or buy again at a discount. |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:52 PM
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Jan 24 2018, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(castiel_chris @ Jan 24 2018, 11:23 AM) So are you guys planning to wait Luno settle the withdrawal issue or just cancel transaction, buy back the coin and transfer it to another platform for sale? It's not a scam IMHO, Luno is backed by a strong team of investors like Naspers. Its just that LHDN investigations are very extensive, especially for a company holding that much amount of MYR deposits.Cause ppl are started to say all sort of scam pattern and its seems to fit the situation now lol. I had waited the withdrawal since 22 December 17, so its been a month but still not yet give back my money T.T |
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Jan 24 2018, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jan 24 2018, 11:51 AM) Don't blame Luno. Blame our dear IRB/LHDN trying to stick their nosy eyeballs into customer details. It is quite safe to assume Luno has not been complying with tax requirements in Malaysia for quite some time. Hence this matter has escalated to this level. IRB has a responsibility to conduct due diligence. If you run a company, don't tell me your auditors don't have the right to probe into your customer invoices?Luno still works fine in other countries. I suggest instead of trying to withdraw in RM, cancel it, convert back to BTC/ETH and transfer it out. |
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Jan 24 2018, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jan 24 2018, 01:28 PM) Even if you think Luno is lying, there is definitely something outside Luno's control because Coinhako also stopped Malaysian deposits.. I don't think Luno is lying. They probably made a poor tax decision. Coinhako is from Singapore, potentially to avoid similar situation. My company will be operating our exchange in the coming weeks and we have sought proper consultation regarding this matter. Problem lies when many exchanges are exploiting tax loopholes and betting that authorities close an eye on this matter. |
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Jan 24 2018, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jan 24 2018, 03:13 PM) I don't think it's just a company-level tax decision because even Remitano has just made KYC mandatory for all Malaysian p2p trades. They don't have a bank account for customers to deposit, so why the new KYC policy? Because the IRB wants to know who's buying crypto even for p2p trades. KYC has become a mandatory requirement for exchange-operators in Malaysia which is not a new precedent btw. For further information, you can Google BNM Cryptocurrency exchange Exposure Draft. While the guidelines haven't set in stone yet, most exchanges have started to enhance KYC requirements. |
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Jan 24 2018, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Jan 24 2018, 02:03 PM) It's a worldwide government and bank crackdown on cryptoexchanges. We're from SINEGY. In a couple of days I will post a link to our updated site. We are from Malaysia, we build trading solutions related to crypto. Our exchange will be rough around the edges in terms of interface. It will be preliminary to serve the local market for now. Pairing will be MYR to BTC, ETH and possibly Ripple. We're aiming to go live by end of Jan/early Feb. AMLA + taxation opportunities. South Korea seems to be taking KYC a step further by making it mandatory for exchange account details to match bank account details. At least our Gov is not banning exchanges outright. Min. deposit will be MYR5,000 as a barrier of entry to prevent influx of small scaled traders which will congest our clearance team for now. |
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Jan 24 2018, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(dirkgently75 @ Jan 24 2018, 08:20 PM) thats from the Coinhacko site. can someone confirm if they have withdrawn MYR? Because if that is the case, and coinhacko and Luno have the same issue, then Luno is up to no good by blocking MYR withdrawals. Come on Kimberly, give us some transparency and TRUTH. Please verify your news to ensure its the latest. This was pulled from CoinHako's latest blog update dated Jan 11 2018. Also, CoinHako suspends its operations and MYR withdrawal, different scenario from Luno whereby their account was frozen."Temporary Suspension of New User Registration As we are upgrading our platform and services, we will be stopping all New User Registrations. New users – for both Singaporeans and Malaysians – will not be able to sign-up with Coinhako after 11th January 2018 until further notice. If you had opened an account before 11th January 2018 or before the stoppage on this day, do not worry. We will be looking to clear our backlog of verification requests during this stoppage and will process your verification details as soon as possible." |
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Jan 24 2018, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(stevenhng @ Jan 24 2018, 09:57 PM) Did anyone call to IRB to confirm that IRB has freeze Luno bank account? When IRB will unfreeze Luno bank account? Thank you. The Inland Revenue Board’s (IRB) investigation into London based cryptocurrency exchanger Luno is not a phishing exercise for information on cryptocurrency traders, says its chief executive officer Datuk Seri Sabin Samitah.Responding to a query on why the Luno bank account in Malaysia was frozen by IRB, he said the audit was to determine whether the cryptocurrency company has complied with the statutory requirement under the Income Tax Act 1967 and to ascertain if the business is involved in money laundering activities. He said though the cryptocurrency business was an unregulated industry in Malaysia, it was subject to Malaysian income tax by virtue of the Section 3 of the Act, whereby tax shall be charged upon the income of any person accruing in or derived from Malaysia. “The IRB is adopting the standard investigation procedure in dealing with cryptocurrency traders by inspecting their source documents and accounting records,” he said, in an e-mail reply to The Star on Friday. image: https://bcp.crwdcntrl.net/5/c=5593/b=49346210 Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...eaehgYp2CWZw.99 |
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Jan 24 2018, 10:16 PM
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Steven, you can look at Remitano or LocalBitcoins.
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Jan 24 2018, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(stevenhng @ Jan 24 2018, 11:12 PM) Hi Weichi, Remitano is built to be simpler and faster. Localbitcoins has plenty of customization and automated settings, which makes it more complex. Remitano therefore has more newbies and Localbitcoin has more serious traders.Which one is better ... Remitano or LocalBitcoins? At Remitano, I saw sell BTC at RM45,389.21. Is it mean I will get RM31772.447 if I sell 0.7 BTC? Thank you. Also, localbitcoins have more payment options such as COD. Whereas Remitano is fully online payment. Advantage of Remitano is that it supports MYR>ETH and MYR>USD Tether too You can technically set any price you want to sell your 0.7btc. If you are selling 0.7 based on RM45,389.21 then yes you'll get 31.7k This post has been edited by weichi: Jan 24 2018, 11:43 PM |
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Feb 1 2018, 12:11 PM
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