news today

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2017/07/...hicle-tint-film

Question:

The QR code which doing certification job - is it certify the nature of the film VLT or ceritfy the VLT after the film tinted on windscreen? it is 2 difference thing even a VLT 70% film stick to an UV windscreen make it less than 70% already

by that news contents, it looks like it certify the film specification, not the aftermath result (whereby all tinted car would fail puspakom test VLT70)

so with this QR code (the tint film is VLT 70 compliance, but after tinted the windscreen actually below VLT70) can pass on any puspakom and jpj blocking test already?

i say its bs. just another way to get money. how can a simple 2d code cost rm30.
and only tinting members can apply for this 2d code.
as if puspakom sticker is not enough.

having the 2d code does not guarantee pass. as its just to identify who is the installer and what tint they use. example, if your car glass is already dark, and you install a passable tint, at the end at roadblock/puspakom will still fail. the installers will not test for you.

JPJ law is on the vehicle , not the product

So yes, a compliant film will still fail if after installation is darker than JPJ law for vehicle

in the end no different at all. U still see car with glasses / tint you cant see through. They just want more pocket money.

theoretically a vehicle with standard glass using the so-called jpj-compliance film may pass.. but vehicles with solar/uv-cut glass using jpj-compliance film may not pass because the factory glass cuts some vlt.

whatever it is just tint your windows as you like. hehe.

How are they gonna control the counter fit QR codes? It's just an QR code anyway based on tint specs.

I had the same thought the moment I read the article. Also, is the QR code printed randomly on the tint film, or is it just a sticker? If sticker, you and I know what follows next.

There's never any JPJ-compliance film.

Many people don't realize the VLT of the ori windscreen of a new car now is already at 80%. If u put on anything less than 90% VLT, confirm fail. BUT tint film of 90% VLT with sufficient IR UV rejection is rather expensive, making it unmarketable. Of course accessories shop won't tell you this.

Ended up now, every vehicle going for a B5 B7 check at Puspakom must remove the film in order to pass.

So the whole thing is a pointless exercise?
I was hoping with the qr code, jpj will skip the test.

In the article:

"Only AAA-registered outlets can issue the QR code label and the issuance of the security labels for new cars is expected to begin next year, upon the request of vehicle owners, for free, when they have their windshields and windows tinted."

Upon request, then not mandatory right? What kind of ruling is this? Want to enforce or not?

Another Bs from Mr Liow

Most probably is government wanna gores money from tint seller. Only certified those pay them.

Expect the tint will raise price later, sad for consumer

Not true. It's a matter of whether the suppliers want to bring them in or not.

In Singapore, the minimum permissible VLT levels are: 70% for front windscreen and both front windows, and 25% for rear windows and rear windscreen.
(Sos )
The minimum VLT allowed for rear windows/windscreen was even higher before it was brought down to 25%. Even then, cars with tinted windows/windscreen had no problem passing their mandatory vehicle inspection.
FYI, in Singapore, news cars need to be inspected after 3 years, 5 years, 7 years, 9 years, followed by yearly if they are used beyond ten years.

Reason for posting this? There are films manufactured to meet the regulations by big names like 3M, VKool, and whatever.

Please look at my explanation below:


The above is the B5 inspection report for one of my cars. The VLT reading of 74% 70% 72% 72% are all on ori glass, WITHOUT any TINTED FILM. If I put on a 80% VLT film from 3M (based on ur terminology, this is JPJ-compliant), mathematically the front windscreen VLT would be lowered to 74%x0.8=59%, ie. it will fail the VLT test.


This is the B5 report of my other car, done January 2017. The VLT reading: front 75%, back 65%, front right & left 64%, again these are all WITHOUT any TINTED FILM. Because I removed them after they failed the 1st time. While the rear left & right's 42% had film on (70% VLT type).

This post has been edited by scorgio: Aug 2 2017, 09:56 PM

This, I can agree. Conti cars, especially, tend to have tinted glass. However, it does not apply to all cars, and this means there are films that can be used legally on other cars.

Of course, films are legal, that's why they can be manufactured.

Just that when the wrong combination combines -> they turn illegal. Btw, the 1st report is a Korean, not conti.

Which brought me back to my 1st post. SHOPs won't tell you what's the VLT reading of your car's glass. 95% car owners probably don't know what shit is that. I asked around the 3M, Ecotint etc's booths at carshows, the staff also don't know what the heck I'm talking.

"Bos, tengok ni, VKOOL XXX 70% VLT, memenuhi syarat2 JPJ. Lepas pasang confirm kereta dingin & cantik", with the JPJ standards chart hanging on the wall.

the tinting shop at cheras got show me - of course i ask first and knowing that they got the puspakom inspection gadgets bought from puspakom. the vlt 70% nano film putting windscreen turn to 64% and IRR99, another nano film vlt 60% turn into 55% sth but IRR97 only...

maybe one day got time pay them a visit - clean screen no dirt and test again c how much

puspakom allow 5% tolerance should one argue for it - c their supervisor not field staff. ie vlt 67 should able to pass also.

Chup.

Side track sikit.

Remember this?

https://www.autofreaks.com/news/jpj-wants-t...tes-by-q3-2017/

JPJ wanted to standardize number plates by Q3 2017. We are already in Q3. Mana standardized plates?

I'll believe it when I see it.

i looking for good tinting, and this question come into mind.

so, as at today, there is still no proper product that can meet the jpj rule?

Everything stick to original are smarter choice jpj or pdrm block malas nak layan let you through , except you kena for dengar telephone while driving , and exception for those 100% skin issue with official certificate you can tinted very black