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tallrice
post Aug 1 2017, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(alien13579 @ Jul 31 2017, 10:45 AM)
hands down hydraulic wins
dat feel when u steer it, EPS is just no feeling at all
toyota one, so soft can even steer using pinky

not to mention hydraulics are reliable
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i hv first batch persona going to be 10 yrs old next 2 months and also just bought an axia last months...
personally i like EPS more than hydraulic simply coz:

1. hydraulic use the same turning inertia all the way while eps is light at low speed and heavy at high speed...
2. steering feedback i feel is almost the same just axia is very minimal force feedback...
3. i prefer no force feedback at all so i can hv total control of the steering wheel...

but axia EPS ratio is higher at 1.75 than persona hydraulic jist at 1.25 full turn
tallrice
post Aug 1 2017, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(alien13579 @ Aug 1 2017, 08:08 AM)
all have their own pros and cons
depends on what the driver is searching for
BTW, your axia no such problem as mentioned in this thread?
sudden loss of power or the steering won't turn back to middle under certain circumstances?

my current car uses EPS as well, during low speed...it won't turn back to the middle, i need to turn it myself
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it turn back at low speed but not fully...
i still need to do some adjustments...
but for me no problem coz the steering is light and easy to turn...
tallrice
post Aug 1 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Aug 1 2017, 08:34 AM)
Axia eps is over assist leh, u should try one in mew persona and iriz, thats almost similiar to hydraulic, but i cant agree more on force feedback, i need that feedback to know the road condition when we tackle the corner so can predict and react fast which eps is numb on this.
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if u prefer the feedback all the way u drive then i believe your palm will work very hard to grab the steering to be in control...
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post Aug 1 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Aug 1 2017, 10:23 AM)
Steering return to centre is affected by suspension geometry specially caster , nothing to do with power assistance or not and affected by speed

Same effect is seen on bicycle , you ride slowly the handle bars need constant correction, ride fast enough the handlebars maintain straight ahead and you can release your hands if your balance good enough

Same concept on a car , slow speed the caster effect is reduced , hence return to centre is not automatic
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i very much agree... there is no way the steering will fully correct itself to the centre even my persona with hydraulic will also need to do adjustments at low speed...
if someone insist the car can do full centre adjustments then i believe autonomous driving car suits them very well... hahaha
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