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TStweetysamm
post Apr 5 2007, 10:47 AM, updated 19y ago

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Dear All,

Im newbie to Mac, I dont own any Mac device since I know how to use computer but lately, im planing to shift to the dark side smile.gif Before that, i really need all the help from Mac users to answer all the noob or stupid questions. I did try to google before asking here, but it seems there is no specific place i can find all the answer, maybe its too stupid to ask tongue.gif here is my questions :

1. Currently Macbook only in 13.3inch? (i know soon will have 15.4inch)?
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2. Macbook only have 2colors? White and black? Does it have the silver/platinum color?
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3. Macbook Pro only have the silver/platinum color?
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4. Airport is the device or the wifi methodology? hmm i only know airport card is
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5. Does airport compatible with those normal aztech adsl modem free by streamyx? or compatible with any adsl modem?
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6. I found out, Mac user tend to use Firewire more than PC user, why?

7. Is the Applecare international warranty? Which mean, if i bought from US, i still can claim my warranty in Malaysia?


8. Is the ram used in Macbook same with those normal notebook ram?
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9. Is Macbook can reformat as when you like, i mean we can format the pc as when we want if we have the OS?

10. Does OSX support *ahem* software?
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This is all my questions all this while. Hope is not too stupid to answer it tongue.gif

Thanks alot notworthy.gif

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post Apr 5 2007, 11:21 AM

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i'm using a macbook right now, so guess i can answer some of your questions

1. yes, only 13.3inch is available, not too sure bout the 15.4inch you're talking about in the future tho
2. yes, the current model lineup for macbook only has 2 colours, white and black..
3. not sure bout mbp, but i think its a yes since i havent seen any mbp with another colour.
4. hmm i only know airport card is well the wireless card you use for wifi, but it doesnt really matter whether its called wifi or airport because in the end its still the same thing they are referring to.
5. well fyi the normal data port(broadband port) still exists in macbook, and thats not what airport is referring to, remember airport/airport card is always referred to wifi.. well to answer this ques, i have tried and successfully connect my macbook to my home wireless network through my DLINK wireless router, but so far i havent try connecting the streamyx aztech adsl modem or any adsl modem directly to the macbook yet...
6. well i have no idea about this though, honestly i havent never used the firewire port ever since i got my macbook several months ago..
7. It is an international warranty, but i'm not really sure bout the example you are referring to as some manufacturers might limit their international warranty to some regions, ie asia pacific only, so i guess you'd need to ask other forumers here bout it...
8. yes, the ram is the same, however having that said, some might not be compatible, so again you'd have to double check if you wanna change the ram in the future..
9. no idea bout this, but i reckon you dont really need to reformat your OSX so frequently, do you?
10. well as long as you can find ppl selling them then yeah, ppl wont possibly sell something if they know it wouldnt work right?

hope this answer some of your questions, i know some answers are abit unclear, but i have been using this for a few months only, so still considered a new user =P

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Apologize if i seem rude to join this question thread. me oso a big noob in Mac thing. What i know is Ipod & Steve jobs so far. hee...

How much the RAM for 1GB?
Anyone will accept 2nd hand RAM? Cuz i dun see ppl selling Apple RAM out around in this forum?!


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post Apr 5 2007, 04:14 PM

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6. not really but they comes with firewire in case you need them, esp for high-speed external hard disk.

7. apple warranty is covered internationally

9. yes you can reformat as much as you like. but is really unnecessary though. disk utility under utilities folder or comes when you boot with the OS cd gives you functions such as reformat, partition etc.
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post Apr 5 2007, 04:23 PM

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5. Airport is equivalent wifi / wireless, it has nothing to do with connecting to Streamyx via the free ADSL modem from TM which is not a wireless router cum modem, its just a modem that you have to connect with a network cable.

And you can connect to Streamyx using the TM provided ADSL Modem with a network cable, via Built In Ethernet - PPPOE.
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post Apr 5 2007, 04:34 PM

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1. Currently Macbook only in 13.3inch? (i know soon will have 15.4inch)?

1. Its 13.3"...I am not sure why....


2. Macbook only have 2colors? White and black? Does it have the silver/platinum color?

I've to say at this moment , it has only two colours. Black and white. I dont think it will be a colourful cherry.



4. Apple Airport is basically WiFi. Apple just rebrand WiFi as Airport.


5. Yes , yes....It works with any Ethernet device/WiFi. Its universal


6.HDD Access , in the early days FireWire > USB1 , and FireWire > USB2. FireWire is dedicated , it does not draw CPU's power nor its not shared. Its dedicated , meaning that you'll have 400Mbps/800Mbps dedicated to a device. It just kicks ass

7. Yes , yes , yes

8. Yes , but you might get kernel panics , etc. Its supported anyway


9. There is a restore disc , pop it in and it will restore back OSX , iLife applications and other junk

10. I have been using ahem ahem software on OSX for a long time. Its normal , there are many places on the Internet that you can get OSX software from. Nope , I am not going to tell you where or how , etc. But it will work. Just watch out for those application that tend to call Home back...Ah ha , then you'll have your IP blacklisted , etc
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post Apr 6 2007, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Apr 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
6.HDD Access , in the early days FireWire > USB1 , and FireWire > USB2. FireWire is dedicated , it does not draw CPU's power nor its not shared. Its dedicated , meaning that you'll have 400Mbps/800Mbps dedicated to a device. It just kicks ass
which mean using firewire have better read/write rate than usb2.0? every external case also with firewire port? does mac need different way to format the harddisk?

QUOTE(prasys @ Apr 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
8. Yes , but you might get kernel panics , etc. Its supported anyway
mind to elaborate more on this? im still quite blur after reading this on the net, actually how it works? i mean when we start the machine, it will let us choose which OS to boot? (like using pc, we can choose in the black screen if there is more than one OS in the machine) or we can have both running at the same time, like switiching from explorer to another explorer?

QUOTE(prasys @ Apr 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
9. There is a restore disc , pop it in and it will restore back OSX , iLife applications and other junk
which mean it will restore back to the original state when we first get our macbook?

QUOTE(prasys @ Apr 5 2007, 04:34 PM)
10. I have been using ahem ahem software on OSX for a long time. Its normal , there are many places on the Internet that you can get OSX software from. Nope , I am not going to tell you where or how , etc. But it will work. Just watch out for those application that tend to call Home back...Ah ha , then you'll have your IP blacklisted , etc
if dont mind, can i know its like normal pc ahem software? they provide those ahem details, we install and just cr@ck it?

thanks alot notworthy.gif


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post Apr 6 2007, 12:27 PM

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Intel Macs + Bootcamp allows you to boot either Windows or Mac OSX, either one, not both, so switching requires reboot. Pressing "Option" button while booting will let you choose which OS to boot.

Mac + Parallels Desktop allows Windows to run within OSX.

Both Bootcamp and Parallels informations can be found with "Search" function, loads of discussions about them.

I have been looking for a external HDD with firewire, not many of them actually and yet to find one that I like, and like prasys mentioned, its speed KICKS ASS!
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post Apr 6 2007, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(civic98 @ Apr 6 2007, 12:27 PM)
Mac + Parallels Desktop allows Windows to run within OSX.

Both Bootcamp and Parallels informations can be found with "Search" function, loads of discussions about them.
Which mean, i can run on OSX then there is a button/function where i can use window also? im so sorry for the so nood questions, i have tried to read about the parallel and bootcamp but still having some confusion on how it operate and i read somewhere said, parallel is better, any comments?

QUOTE(civic98 @ Apr 6 2007, 12:27 PM)
I have been looking for a external HDD with firewire, not many of them actually and yet to find one that I like, and like prasys mentioned, its speed KICKS ASS!
u are looking for HDD with firewire? which mean the external case or the HDD? i get confuse again, as i know normal 3.5 HDD with external case will the our external HDD (normal with usb2.0, with power adapter), if the case with firewire then it will be external HDD with firewire (does it have the power adapter?)? am i wrong?

thanks for your info notworthy.gif
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post Apr 6 2007, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(tweetysamm @ Apr 6 2007, 01:35 PM)
Which mean, i can run on OSX then there is a button/function where i can use window also? im so sorry for the so nood questions, i have tried to read about the parallel and bootcamp but still having some confusion on how it operate and i read somewhere said, parallel is better, any comments?

thanks for your info  notworthy.gif
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Okay.. There's my simple explanation.

If you hate booting (which mean you need to restart in order to switch either mac os or windows), parallels is the key for you. But parallels got disadvantages, parallels is running inside mac osx "box", which mean that it is emulating the whole system (windows xp). So in term of the performances, it will be slower comparing via bootcamp. And current parallels still don't have 3D acceleration implemented (which means that it won't work for 3D games or anything related to 3D stuff). Btw, 2D games still work nod.gif

As for bootcamp, it is just a software that re-partition for "other OS" to be install and it also includes some drivers to be install for winxp/vista in order for your mac machines to be able to work. Windows via bootcamp works natively, which means it does not use emulated or whatsoever. It just work like windows xp in our normal computer machines smile.gif
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waohh.. Allvin..thx for telling the different btwn bootcamp & virtual XP.

Dat's a helpful information than what the Apple promoter SHOULD tell me last time.

Actually How Slow it could be? Comparing to XP by bootcamp. Roughly 50%?

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QUOTE(tweetysamm @ Apr 5 2007, 10:47 AM)
[color=blue]6. I found out, Mac user tend to use Firewire more than PC user, why?
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Firewire was developed by Apple + some other ppl. Apple charges royalty for every firewire product sold. Manufacturers didn't like this and started updating USB1 to USB2. That's why USB is more popular today. Plus Intel chose USB over Firewire
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post Apr 6 2007, 04:03 PM

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- Because you can boot from firewire not from USB.
- Because firewire have better sustain read & write. Eventhough USB do have a higher burse speed 450mbps vs 400mbps.
- Because on most firewire devices, you can daisy chain them.
- Because almost every Mac come with it.
- Because when we have Firewire 800 (800mbps) our PC friend still toying with USB2.
- Because when they have Mac with Firewire 400, USB still at slow USB 1. Many existing users will go for firewire naturally.
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QUOTE(jovial @ Apr 6 2007, 06:48 PM)
Firewire was developed by Apple + some other ppl. Apple charges royalty for every firewire product sold. Manufacturers didn't like this and started updating USB1 to USB2. That's why USB is more popular today. Plus Intel chose USB over Firewire
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that is correct, but not completely correct.
check this wikipedia on firewire:
quoted: "The end result was the creation of the "1394 Licensing Authority", a body which charges everyone US$0.25 per end-user system that uses any 1394 technology."

anyway, for those uniniated about the <**cough**>, the keyword here is "serialbox" and "KCNcrew pack"


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uh...from that same article..
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However, the small royalty that Apple Inc. and other patent holders have initially demanded from users of FireWire (US$0.25 per end-user system) and the more expensive hardware needed to implement it (US$1-$2) has prevented FireWire from displacing USB in low-end mass-market computer peripherals where cost of product is a major constraint.


uh..i'm pretty sure i can boot from USB

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QUOTE(jovial @ Apr 6 2007, 05:22 PM)
uh..i'm pretty sure i can boot from USB
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I'm talking about the Mac here. This is the Mac forum dude.
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QUOTE(allvin @ Apr 6 2007, 01:48 PM)
Okay.. There's my simple explanation.

If you hate booting (which mean you need to restart in order to switch either mac os or windows), parallels is the key for you. But parallels got disadvantages, parallels is running inside mac osx "box", which mean that it is emulating the whole system (windows xp). So in term of the performances, it will be slower comparing via bootcamp. And current parallels still don't have 3D acceleration implemented (which means that it won't work for 3D games or anything related to 3D stuff). Btw, 2D games still work  nod.gif

As for bootcamp, it is just a software that re-partition for "other OS" to be install and it also includes some drivers to be install for winxp/vista in order for your mac machines to be able to work. Windows via bootcamp works natively, which means it does not use emulated or whatsoever. It just work like windows xp in our normal computer machines  smile.gif
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Can i summarize as :
1. Parallel is something like virtual will slow down the overall performance especiallu on 512mb machine?
2. Bootcamp will have the troublesome in switching?

Both also consuming the harddisk space to store the windows file, how much space? If i plan to use parallel at first, then i wan to try to use bootcamp later, will it(bootcamp) auto partition the harddisk? or i need to partition it myself before install?

QUOTE(wei @ Apr 6 2007, 04:03 PM)
- Because on most firewire devices, you can daisy chain them.
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Sorry, but what do you mean by "daisy chain"?

thanks alot for the info notworthy.gif


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post Apr 6 2007, 06:13 PM

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haha, couldn't find a good illustration to show u. Basically is chain up a few device.
Most commonly found is external harddrive. There's normally 2 firewire port found on most firewire casing. So you can do:

Macbook ---> external harddisk 1 ---> external harddisk 2 ---> external harddisk 3 ---> and so on.
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Don't ever forget how much Parallels cost (RM300++), while Bootcamp is free.

I have a feeling that TS is getting so much reply is because she's a "SHE"! Hahaha..

Or else everyone would have said: "Use the search function!" Hahaha..
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Apr 6 2007, 06:56 PM)
I have a feeling that TS is getting so much reply is because she's a "SHE"! Hahaha..

Or else everyone would have said: "Use the search function!" Hahaha..
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hey.... i replied because i saw some interesting question ok? brows.gif

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