This thread is dedicated to the underated football player... Their contribution and talent are huge but yet the recognition they got are less... Please give a shout to those underrated football player in you opinion...


Here's mine:

1. Steve Finnan: His contribution is always overshadowed by his teammates like Gerrard and Alonso...

2. Francesco Totti: 1 of the best footballer of the year and most probably the most loyal footballer today...

3. Guti: I wonder why he never got the call up into the Spain National Team cause he's good! Quite a consistent player for me...

4. Kolo Toure: A player with capabilities like the likes of Rio and Terry...

5. Sebastian Frey: Great goalkeeper... But never make it into the French squad...

6. David Bentley: McClaren should pick him ahead of SWP!!!!

Kevin Nolan...

Andres Iniesta

Didn't we use to have an underrated and overrated spam thread before?

rafael van dar vaart?

Portugese Pauletta.. Top scorer for Portugal in 2006 WC..

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Added on April 4, 2007, 7:17 pmJamie Carragher also underated IMO

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Apr 4 2007, 07:17 PM

aaron lennon?

ayala
iniesta
xavi
scholes of yesteryears

Guti is extremely inconsistent though technically superb.

My pick would be Iker Cassilas definitely. Try asking Buffon or Cech to play behind the Madrid defense.

How's Jose Reina? He's been one of the Liverpool's key to success last season. His consistency and communication with the defenders in front of him is superb. Although Finnan was the first to reach my mind, but noone gave Pepe Reina much credit before, he's our unsung hero in recent years.

This post has been edited by lilredridinghood: Apr 4 2007, 07:52 PM

Eh..Like that dudek ler?

makelele............

ya, we know he's good........but we never notice him. and most people if watch a chelsea/ france match would never see him, and would give him a 6 just to give face. remember real kicked him out cause he aint flashy enough?

and we can never pin point his importance untill he doesnt play.

for a person who defined the DMF role, and IMO is one of the best MF's to come into existence. he is still relatively unknown compared to the greats.

Darren Fletcher

paul scholes...deserves more personal accolades than he has...doesnt get it because most probably he doesnt care about them though...

even if ppl want to give him awards...he will tolak 1 lah...and yeah he deserves alot more recognition now ...especially for the goal against blackburn

PURE PAUL SCHOLES MOMENT

The departure of this bugger cost Madrid dearly. Mekelele - Inventor of the DMF.

Yeah... One of the most underrated player in EPL... I think he's even better than Barton and Parker... Kevin Nolan... Maybe even better than Ballack this season...

darren flectcher !!!?
what bout o'shea?
i would pick john o shea anyday, over that weak fletcher

This post has been edited by w3er: Apr 4 2007, 11:41 PM

R.M. did not kick him out,he quit R.M. because he get lower wages compare to DB7 but he have to do more dirty job.IMO he leave because of money problem.

btw,underrated hero : finnan,reina,nolan,gilberto(well lately he got quite more news already )

Mine would be:
Fernando Hiero -charismatic captain of R.Madrid who got kicked out
Makelele- as discussed above
Fernando Morientes
Roy Makaay
Paolo Maldini -the only other player besides Totti who stays at one club

Hierro- he is regarded as one of the greatest, so underrated? :S
Makelele, ppl keep calling him underrated that he's no longer underrated
Morientes, i do agree
Makaay too
Maldini, staying at one club means u are underrated?

bentley,ayala,totti,vidic,dawson,berbatov

jamie carragher, steve finnan.... these 2 are fab...

gutti from real madrid

Diego Forlan? Marcus Hahneman? Van Bronkhost can count or not??

see he still is, no one really looks at makelele.

you look at the french team last time you see zizou. but not another great mf that invented the DMF and is the best DMF still in the world. for someone who made up his own position and made all the clubs in the world somehow want that kind of MF he deserves to be up there with the zizous, the ronaldos, the mullers...one of the best of all time.

but no, he aint......no one really gives makelele credit. without makelele real wont have taht much success, as seen how much it hurt real after losing him. without makelele chelsea would never get back to back. without makelele i doubt france can get the WC. its because makelele is soo good at being a defensive cover that people like zizou can go run wild, or lampard can stroll in to penalty boxes and shoot goals.

a lot of people, footballing and non footballing....never see makelele. untill he aint there, which was the mistake real made. makelele doesnt look liek he's doing much on the field so they sold him and what a rude shock they got. makelele also doesnt have much personal awards, he doesnt directly inspire the whole team.

we all know makelele is super, but still none of us is goina pop up one day and say "damn there goes another great" when he retires. also no one can really pin point makeleles performance, he just disappears in a team and we take him for granted.
but once you see makelele not there, people like zizou and lamps drop severly in performance.

jamie carragger.... he is doin well to me at the back...

carragher underrated?? he is quite highly rated now, where the hell got underrated?

carragher was really underated b4.. ledley king for england b4 him???

when beckham arrived at RM, the chairman said y need a person who can only pass 4 feet when we got 30 feet passer.. how he wish he have both )

haha other then EPL and outside ChampionL team... im bit short of knowledge

but i think PETER CECH was really underated, never heard of him in big team radar, sudenly muuurinho grab him

Agree.. I still think Finnan is the most underrated in Liverpool... I think he's even better than Neville

he was pretty young for a keeper before mourinho grab him, i think not considered as underrated

totti and maldini underrated??!!! They are both legend in thier respective club and also key players in Italian NT (when playing) ... and you call that underrated? You might as well call all non EPL players that are good underrated in that case

Finnan,Guti,Makelele(During Real Madrid),Andres Iniesta,Ricardo Quaresma maybe..

guti is a great player...
but didnt turn up into spain national team...
mayb there are some arguements between him and aragones lehh !!!

Guti is a very inconsistent player. Besides when u have the likes of Xavi, Xabi Alonso, Cesc and Iniesta there's no place for Guti really..

Aziz from klang rovers

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Added on April 5, 2007, 4:45 pmi still think brad friedel is world class...tho' underrated

This post has been edited by eltan: Apr 5 2007, 04:45 PM

Jamie Carragher for me.

Bolton's goalkeeper (which I can never remember nor spell his name out).

david healy!!!!

Just stick to Jussi, it's easier to remember.

i think joey barton..

if u dunno then u dun post lar...

is makelele choose to leave real madrid 1 after the arrival of beckham

makelele never underrated as he is 1 of jose unreplaceable players along lampard and terry....

this season he might play less due to the fact he already 34 ... and some injury...

last time fergie even praise makelele is important to the whole chelsea's play...

for international, there is another vieira...unless france start with 2 DM...

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Added on April 5, 2007, 5:19 pmbecause he only third choice CB for england after terry and rio, thus people said he underrated

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Added on April 5, 2007, 5:21 pmjust because he choose to stay in man city means underrated?

if u say england berth, for sure he can't beat the likes of lampard or gerrard

This post has been edited by Ken: Apr 5 2007, 05:21 PM

Look whos talking
Makelele didn't choose to leave. We sold him. Sure we didn't want to meet his contract demands but that doesn't change the fact that we sold him. He did play pre-season with Beckham after all.

in EPL midfielder, malbranque, jimmy bullard, mikel arteta, joey barton, bentley, morten gamst, stephen quinn, gareth barry, sidwell, scott parker

Boateng... Van Der Vaart, Lauth, and Mpenza...

bro,makelele is the one requested for a transfer ,he choose to leave, IIRC he refused to go for training unless RM meet his requested new contract,yes the fact is RM sold him,but was forced to sell him to chelsea, he was really underrated in RM tho

edit: ahhh found the news google is a powafu thing
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/ne.../makelele_real/


This post has been edited by akRia: Apr 5 2007, 07:20 PM

K.kaladze - AC milan
Toure - Arsenal
Camonaresi - Juventus
Mexes - roma (really good defender..but didnt make it to france squad)

It started when we didn't offer him an improved contract.

he wanted a deal which is on par with the Galaticos there, but he wasn't valued that high by Real...

READING=SHOREY , LITA

EVERTON= GRAVESEN, TIM CAHILL

LIVERPOOL=AURELIO,GONZALEZ,MASCHERANO(adapting well)

ASTON VILLA=GARY CAHILL

Gravesen a Toffees now???? I'll bet its me or U stuck in time.

Wahaha...very soree...
It should be CARSLEY lah...coz they really look alike ...

and one more underrated player...
ARTETA !!!

Mancini also le..I think he din kena pick by Brazil b4..

It's bcoz Brazil got a bunch of talented players..
Don worry..i think he will be selected for Euro2008.

if only Brazil can join the European Championship

Then there's also Argentina, lol.

ROFL wut year wud it be???

Ronaldinho.... shoot me...

Ah yes.. He's the one who saves lots of goals for Bolton..

Everton's Mikel Arteta
but too bad spain have too much talented AMF

How about Tim Cahill?

He should be playing for the Top 4 now.

This post has been edited by maniac_rage: Apr 5 2007, 11:10 PM

Read your source again. He did not request for a transfer. He wanted a god-damn pay rise. If we had given him his wish he would have chosen to stay at Madrid. Saying he chose to leave because of Beckham is false. That's what i'm getting at here.

what happen next when RM didnt offer him a better pay? IIRC he didnt go for training ,in such way,isnt that mean he asked for a transfer?he didnt leave because of beck and i nvr said so,i say he leave because he have to do more job than other stars such as DB7,zizou but get less pay,go read back what i wrote before quote me ,kthxbye

edit:in case u wanna say " RM sold him" to make yourself feel better,go ahead,but seriously,pls read before u quote,the source i just simply google it out ,and it says makelele wanted a better pay which fit in what i said

This post has been edited by akRia: Apr 6 2007, 12:53 AM

No...by not going to training he was trying to force RM to give him a rise. RM decided to cash on him as there was no way RM were going to give him that. The club could have easily forced him to see out his contract and let him go on a free but that wouldn't be very smart would it? And u started this nonsense by quoting my reply to a guy who DID suggest that it was because of Becks. Next time u learn to read instead of just trying to be rude. Kthxbye

Nope,u should read before u asked someone else to read,i did not quoting you for that guy ,the post is *makelele didnt get what he requested for* and led to the reason why he left.and about the rude part,don make urself look smart when u're not anyhow better.

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Added on April 6, 2007, 1:06 amok mayb i overreacted crap,let's go on with football..chill verx

This post has been edited by akRia: Apr 6 2007, 01:06 AM

I have nothing against u...but u seem to have some personal vendetta against me. I don't mind ppl disagreeing with me but try not to make it personal man...

haha yea,i realise my post after i read back my bad,didnt mean direct attack to ur post tho

David Silva.If ppl never heard of him before now they do.
Ivan de la Pena.This guy is brilliant. We conceded 2 goals last week because of him.
Raul Albiol.World class defender.Aragones is blind.

shola ameobi....very good finishing and good physical too....hope he'll be on england first squad

Serious? IMO he's somehow overrated

U notice though....

for scotland yes.... da rest is NO!!

the answer is too direct...

all newcastle players...

how bout steed malbranque? i think he is underrated.. he play well for Fulham and Spurs, but he never get the chances to represent France...

This post has been edited by johnjenin: Apr 6 2007, 09:18 AM

yes, he wants more money but real madrid refuse, he is the most underpaid in real madrid that time among all galaticos, so he choose to leave... and when beckham arrive, because of figo play on the right, beckham was choosen to play as the DM ... which same position as makelele...

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Added on April 6, 2007, 9:23 ami will see how far he can bring spurs go in the UEFA cup...



This post has been edited by Ken: Apr 6 2007, 09:23 AM

Couldn't have said it better

Trying to modify your story now eh? What does wanting more money got to do with Becks?? Absolutely nothing. If Makelele stayed he would have played alongside Becks in centre midfield.

fren, makelele choose to leave, thus real madrid sell him, faham ?

even though he is under contract but if a player say he wants to leave, the club wont force him to stay and thus no choice but to sell him ... faham?

u see next season bayern able to keep hargreaves or not...

i din modify my story, i just say simple he choose to leave...

that's y nowdays, big clubs will furuious if a club try to unsettle their players...example c.ronaldo...even though ronaldo still got contract with man united but if ronaldo tell fergie this summer he wanna leave, fergie will no choice but to sell him....

u still tak faham beckham arrival affect his position, real madrid only play with 1 DM only...thus beckham fill in the slot and makelele no place except bench...the right wing was played by figo

This is what u said:


And i just corrected u. Beckham's arrival had nothing to do with RM selling Makelele. And u trying to teach me about RM's tactics is laughable. What u think we only have 1 slot in centre midfield??

Zidane - Makelele - Beckham - Figo

That's what we tried in pre-season.
Faham tak?

bcoz Domenech is a dumb@$$.

while we at the France team, no doubt Sebastian Frey is one of the most underrated guy there. i would take him as the no.1 instead of Coupet.

lol, Wang Dalei!!! HUZZAH FOOTBALL MANAGER 2007!

Darren Fletcher would b my pick for the underrated player. He has done his job at midfield. Yet all ppl still dun like him.

that's true, everytime i think of fletcher, i think - rotation based player.

David Silva is still very young, not many people notice him till his super goal against Chelsea in the Champions League which is just a few days ago. Hence, it's quite normal for people not to notice him as he's with Valencia. If he's with any EPL team, it would've been different.

Maybe it's because he plays for Spurs, not any top 4 English team. However, he has not done too well for Spurs yet, I suppose he's still settling down.

Actually Verx was rite with his statement, Real Madrid decided not to keep him because they reckon that he demanded too much. Makelele wanted to stay, but with a more competitive salary. But he was offered any. Thus, to prevent him from leaving for free, they cash on him instead.

Makes me wonder why too. Coupet isn't exactly the best keeper around the French team. Frey did well with Inter, Parma b4 but was never recognize....Not even the bench.

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Added on April 6, 2007, 5:19 pmOh yea, Peter Crouch gets my vote too. A player who can hold the ball as well as a great target man. Scores more than any other Liverpool players despite having lesser time on the pitch. Creates chances for his own teammates too. Top scorer for Liverpool this season with 18 goals? If I'm not mistaken.

If Fletcher can get his credit, why can't a player who scored a hattrick against the Gunners get any?

This post has been edited by lilredridinghood: Apr 6 2007, 05:19 PM

Two opinions :

about makalele - he just wanted a pay that is near the other 'superstars', but they wouldn't give it to him. now they see what an incredible player maka is.

france goalkeeper - the worse that i cannot tahan is barthez still playing.

so, no one choose gary oneil yet?

i'm not surprised because he is one of the most underated player in EPL i suppose.

if u dun know, gary oneil played for pompey.

gamst pedersen

and patrice evra

fabio quagliarella
richard dunne

scott parker... he was doin great at chelsea durin Ranieri time.... but too many star kill his hope to be in regular team.....

Maybe he's not underrated but great player ppl never heard of.
About Silva, this guy already proved himself when he's on loan to Celta last season.He played great last season. Most ppl who saw him the first time thought he was a Brazillian. Touted the new Aimar by Valencia fans. When i heard he will be called back to Valencia i was very excited because he's already a proven talent.

I dont think Crouch is underrated... In what way is he underrated? He's now the 2nd choice behind Rooney for England... And also starting 11 for Liverpool... So why is he underrated?

Jose Antonio Reyes...

I think Matt Taylor more underrated than him just recently people noticed him.

I never knew he was great at Chelsea but i praised him more during his Charlton year.

This post has been edited by Abangpedro: Apr 6 2007, 08:16 PM

Rivaldo, at Milan

paul scholes...england missed him..his vision, creativity and eye for goal is undeniable...doesn't care for the money...family man..a perfect midfielder...hmm..well, almost perfect, since he can't tackle but loves to do so..LOL...

thats overrated, my fren.

he was juz slightly better than crap there.