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TSnivota
post Jul 24 2017, 02:32 AM, updated 6y ago

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Hi everyone, I have just graduated last year, went back home and now back to London, just wondering if there is anyone in this forum who can drop by say hi here and may be we have a meet up some day?


This is one of the old thread but seems doesnt really related now due to changes in immigration rules:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/376571

Given the strengthen of immigration rules (thanks to Theresa May and Tories), it is very very very hard to get employer visa sponsorship now, perhaps anyone can share with their experiences on it as well?
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post Jul 25 2017, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Jul 24 2017, 01:45 PM)
Hi,

I'm currently working in London. Not too sure about meetups though. Getting sponsorship visa is quite difficult, I would expect more so for fresh graduate since the post-study work visa route has ended.

Btw, the immigration rules tightened for non-EU citizens because UK have no power to control EU migration to the UK, leading to the whole Brexit scenario. I'd rather blame TonyBlair for this smile.gif http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19...-would-come-uk/

Anyway, that's just my personal opinion. Feel free to ask questions here and I will try to answer it based on my experience
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True its very hard now - but I do miss the Tony Blair days where graduates can get the Post Graduate Visa or Working in Scotland visa where people can actually stay....now basically the government just treating students as cash cow, kick them back upon their graduation...

May I know which industry are you in?
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post Jul 25 2017, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Jul 25 2017, 04:18 AM)
I'm doing software development. It might be more difficult, but not impossible to get a visa to stay. When I applied for my visa, a labour market test is required and only if no UK citizen/EU citizen/UK resident is unable to fulfil the job, then only the company can hire me.

Even when the company choose to hire me, there is a monthly limit to Tier 2 General visa. The higher the salary is, the better the chances are.

But if you know a contact in a company that is able and willing to sponsor you, then you are in luck! Not easy, but can be done.
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True. Even the rule still applies now. I'm in banking environment. The RLMT seems very hard to pass through tho consider the amount of ppl in banking and finance... cry.gif
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post Oct 18 2017, 06:58 PM

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Sorry guys but more of a rage reply here, currently I'm just too tired on persuading employer to sponsor my Tier 2 visa, I have applied like 500+ job applications in banking and financial industry and they JUST DON'T WANT to sponsor me a Tier 2 even though I can bear the whatever cost fully and complete the required paperwork myself, can anyone tell me why? I'm getting tired everyday since I'm getting called by recruiter everyday, and when I told them that I need visa sponsorship their reaction just changed completely, like very exciting at the beginning but don't bother to entertain you anymore after knowing that you need visa sponsorship. And I doubt they will keep my CV after this, probably at the shredder or the bin may be. Can anyone tell me WHY? =(
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post Oct 19 2017, 06:09 PM

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Thanks both for your reply, I actually did Law and now working in the banking industry. I am aware of the Restricted COS and Resident Labour Market Test - did went through all the necessity and research that's why I will look whether or not the company is on sponsors list before I apply for the job and I told the recruiter I am willing to do everything I can on my side to ease their hiring.

I am planning to go back to uni for Masters as a Tier 4 graduate next year, which does not subject to market test and it is on Unrestricted COS. However, what I am worrying is that at the end of the day even if I go for Masters it does not ultimately guarantee my employment as it is just easier for them to hire me and ultimately it still down to them whether or not want to sponsor me a Tier 2 visa. Mind share your thoughts?

Some one told me before it's not easy as well during the Labour time where Work Permit and PSW still available before get abolished by the Tory government, but still, effort has to be made but it is easier than now.

Yes I am based in London currently, but still despite being at the capital the HR arent that helpful and job market here is very very very competitive...what about you two?

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post Oct 23 2017, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Oct 21 2017, 05:01 AM)
I'm a little bit confused. You mentioned that you are now working in the banking industry. Did you mean in Malaysia or London? London is extremely competitive. For every job opening, there are many qualified applicants.

Personally, I don't think masters will help. Labour time was easier as there is Tier 1 General and Tier 1 Post Study Work visa which is now unavailable. Also over the years UK attracted so many migrants from both EU and outside of EU that talent is now so readily available locally that most employers will hesitate to sponsor someone, unless that person has something special.

I was a bit lucky because one of my ex-manager was a British and invited me to work for him. I am not a fresh graduate but have been working in the industry for almost 10 years before moving to the UK, so it was not too difficult to justify that they need an expertise that cannot be sourced locally to pass the labour market test. You can see in both my case and liew_jls there is an element of "connection" and an element of "luck".

Btw @liew_jls congrats on your ILR! I still need to suffer for 2 more years sad.gif. I also can't easily move jobs because I need sponsorship if I switch jobs. So I'm stuck, but at least I am grateful I still have a job.
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What I meant as in my CV background both in Malaysia and in London is banking industry, yeah no doubt the element of luck and connection there for most of the people here

But let's just say I am not willing to give up until I get a Tier 2? You can say I am a very determined or stubborn person perhaps, its just two different perspective..
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post Oct 25 2017, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Oct 25 2017, 02:33 PM)
I'm based in North West London. Been around for just 3 years in the UK
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Colindale? They just opened a new foodhall and a Loon Fung supermarket there...should check it out!
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post Oct 26 2017, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 26 2017, 06:53 PM)
The transfer is much harder than T4 to T2 because you need to go through the RMLT.

Wow, you must be godlike in coding skills then. What sector are you in? I'm major in cloud BI analytics, focusing in AWS and Qlik
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T4 to T2 dont need to go through RMLT, but all other category does, T4 Student Visa is the only exempted category from doing RMLT.

Not sure if I'm right but it seems like there are a lot of employers does not understand how the immigration law operates in UK, a lot of them just based on a general perception and hearsay from lawyers and consultants telling them that hiring a foreigner is hard, causing their reluctance...

Where there is a will there will be a way, perhaps all I need is meeting the right person and able to explain and convince them to bring me in...
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post Oct 27 2017, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(mystalyzer @ Oct 27 2017, 03:16 PM)
I'm in the telcommunications field. Haha, very very far away from godlike coding skills. I was just extremely lucky I slipped through wink.gif
Hi Nivota, I think the rules are a bit more complicated than that. If I am not mistaken the T4 to T2 RLMT exemption can be applied only if the candidate completes the course entirely in the UK or at least 1 year in the UK for PhD graduates. Which means people doing 2+1 or 1+2 or any of those sort of course are not exempted from RLMT.

So if you don't need to have the RLMT done, that's 1 less hurdle for you, but you need to be clear to the people that you talk to that although you need sponsorship, an RLMT is NOT required which is going to sound different from "I need a sponsorship".
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I think regardless RMLT required or not does not really bothered with employers who willing to sponsor you in as they are most likely going to outsourced it to law firms to do anyway

If the employer has the will and determination to bring you in, they will bring you in regardless of whatever hurdle, if they are not willing to regardless how much obstacle you clear for them they would still not going to do that.

I have a friend who studied here and managed to get a Tier 2, the law firms nonetheless did a RMLT for employer as it would be a good reason for them to charge the employer more on the grounds of 'precautionary measure'

Feel like lawyers here are just consultants anyway, doing a lot of things that can be done by a layman, but most of the layman afraid of get in trouble they just willing to pay the lawyers in any way the lawyer told haha

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post Jun 27 2019, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(mshafiqsafian @ Jun 27 2019, 07:52 PM)
Hi all,

I received an offer from broadhaven construction ltd in London. They are offering to sponsor my visa flight tix etc. Anyone have any experience like this before, mind to share ?
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better check the company properly first I would say, better just give them a call yourself to confirm its not a spam if you got the job online. Due to Brexit uncertainty a lot of company are either gone into retrenchment or not hiring at the moment. Best of luck!
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post Nov 7 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(DucEvo @ Nov 6 2019, 10:11 AM)
Hello people. Im from Singapore and I applied for and have received a job offer from a Broadhaven Construction Ltd company based in the UK. Apparently I have been selected and I will start work in January 2020. I have also been given my contract via email this morning.

Can anyone advise me if this company and the job is legitimate?
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I'm afraid it is not legit based on previous posts, would advise to give a call to the company and check with them nevertheless.
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post Feb 16 2020, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(sawyeratjx @ Feb 16 2020, 08:23 PM)
Hey guys, my gf is a brit and we're planning to get married soon. Currently 24 years old working in Singapore as an engineer. Graduated from a local private uni in Malaysia.

I'm thinking of looking for a job in the UK/England since after we get married I'm eligible for the spouse visa. With a self sponsored visa, would it be easier for me to look for an engineering job with estimated 2-3 years of experience?
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yes and no

yes because employer do not need to worry about your right to work in the UK, hence if you have the right experience and match with what they are looking for, it shouldn't be a problem

no because UK economy is really bad in the past few years, and there are several construction and engineering companies that I know has collapsed, so good luck with that
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post Feb 17 2020, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(sawyeratjx @ Feb 17 2020, 07:18 PM)
Thanks for the reply! I've been looking on LinkedIn and I notice my field is quite booming in the UK ~ thousands of job postings. Though most of them have requirement of applicants eligibility to work in the UK.

Do we Chinese Malaysian get discriminated career wise in the UK?
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it really depends on your luck (i.e. your boss)

most Londoners are fine, even if they really discriminate you they won't do it obviously and kept it in very subtle way, can't say the same thing for other parts of UK

 

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