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post Jul 24 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Jul 24 2017, 02:32 AM)
Hi everyone, I have just graduated last year, went back home and now back to London, just wondering if there is anyone in this forum who can drop by say hi here and may be we have a meet up some day?
This is one of the old thread but seems doesnt really related now due to changes in immigration rules:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/376571

Given the strengthen of immigration rules (thanks to Theresa May and Tories), it is very very very hard to get employer visa sponsorship now, perhaps anyone can share with their experiences on it as well?
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Hi,

I'm currently working in London. Not too sure about meetups though. Getting sponsorship visa is quite difficult, I would expect more so for fresh graduate since the post-study work visa route has ended.

Btw, the immigration rules tightened for non-EU citizens because UK have no power to control EU migration to the UK, leading to the whole Brexit scenario. I'd rather blame TonyBlair for this smile.gif http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19...-would-come-uk/

Anyway, that's just my personal opinion. Feel free to ask questions here and I will try to answer it based on my experience
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post Jul 25 2017, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Jul 25 2017, 02:48 AM)
True its very hard now - but I do miss the Tony Blair days where graduates can get the Post Graduate Visa or Working in Scotland visa where people can actually stay....now basically the government just treating students as cash cow, kick them back upon their graduation...

May I know which industry are you in?
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I'm doing software development. It might be more difficult, but not impossible to get a visa to stay. When I applied for my visa, a labour market test is required and only if no UK citizen/EU citizen/UK resident is unable to fulfil the job, then only the company can hire me.

Even when the company choose to hire me, there is a monthly limit to Tier 2 General visa. The higher the salary is, the better the chances are.

But if you know a contact in a company that is able and willing to sponsor you, then you are in luck! Not easy, but can be done.
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post Jul 26 2017, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Jul 25 2017, 03:22 PM)
True. Even the rule still applies now. I'm in banking environment. The RLMT seems very hard to pass through tho consider the amount of ppl in banking and finance... cry.gif
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I think the key point here is experience. For a company to justify a fresh graduate has the skills and knowledge in banking that other more experienced residents/EU citizens do not have will be somewhat difficult.
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post Oct 17 2017, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Oct 16 2017, 01:52 PM)
Thanks.
IT sector
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Congrats on your new job. If it's in London, a decent accomodation can easily take up 1.5k-2k alone though but you will still get to live very comfortably with that salary. Only downside of getting a high salary is the 40% tax but that is a good problem

I'm in the IT sector too. Got your visa all sorted out already?

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post Oct 18 2017, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(liew_jls @ Oct 18 2017, 03:45 AM)
With the salary, he can live like a king and easily get a flat.

Iol, ppl work in IT and I work in IT as well, the salary is so difference. Lol. Look like, i need to get a new job. Lol.
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You're also working in UK? Salary is very good and can live very comfortably but I won't say can live like a king unless can afford to rent a 3-bed flat like this wink.gif

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/45...2c77ffb23a0b99e


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post Oct 19 2017, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Oct 18 2017, 06:58 PM)
Sorry guys but more of a rage reply here, currently I'm just too tired on persuading employer to sponsor my Tier 2 visa, I have applied like 500+ job applications in banking and financial industry and they JUST DON'T WANT to sponsor me a Tier 2 even though I can bear the whatever cost fully and complete the required paperwork myself, can anyone tell me why? I'm getting tired everyday since I'm getting called by recruiter everyday, and when I told them that I need visa sponsorship their reaction just changed completely, like very exciting at the beginning but don't bother to entertain you anymore after knowing that you need visa sponsorship.  And I doubt they will keep my CV after this, probably at the shredder or the bin may be.  Can anyone tell me WHY? =(
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liew_jls mentioned most of the points already, but i'll list it down again in a different way as well. here are the reasons why it's difficult

1. Not every company can sponsor applicants. If the company is not in this list, they cannot sponsor you even if they wanted to: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/syste...of_Sponsors.pdf

2. Even if they can sponsor applicants, they have limited restricted sponsorship cerificates. They might have used up their quota or they want to save their quota for a more experienced candidate. They might not be willing to use a restricted sponsorship certificate for a fresh graduate

3. If you managed to get past the first 2 hurdles, you might get called for an interview. You then have to compete with so many other people in London looking for jobs. Without any impressive experience, skills and qualifications (or connections) it might be difficult to impress the interviewer

4. Assuming the interview was a success and the company wants to hire you, they can't do it immediately as they will have to conduct a resident labour market test and advertise in 2 different websites for at least a month. The company's decision to hire you might also be questioned and it would be difficult to explain why they can't hire a fresh graduate that is a UK/EU citizen or permanent resident unless you have a unique skillset/experience/qualifications

5. The company might not be able to get a valid certificate of sponsorship as there is a limit of 2000 certificates issued every month for the whole of UK. Some months the quota might be fully used. The higher the salary, the better the chances are so if the salary is low it is unlikely to get a valid certificate of sponsorship. you can see the details here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/...-of-sponsorship

6. Once you reached this stage, you can finally apply for your visa, and it can cost up to over £1000 for a long term visa

As you can see, it is very challenging and you probably need to have something special to stand a better chance. Normally that would be qualification, skills, experience or connections. If you are a fresh graduate, best is try to network with your friends from university who just entered the work force and maybe they can help to open some doors for you. Best of luck and remember that although it might be difficult, it is not impossible.
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post Oct 21 2017, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Oct 19 2017, 06:09 PM)
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Thanks both for your reply, I actually did Law and now working in the banking industry.  I am aware of the Restricted COS and Resident Labour Market Test - did went through all the necessity and research that's why I will look whether or not the company is on sponsors list before I apply for the job and I told the recruiter I am willing to do everything I can on my side to ease their hiring.

I am planning to go back to uni for Masters as a Tier 4 graduate next year, which does not subject to market test and it is on Unrestricted COS.  However, what I am worrying is that at the end of the day even if I go for Masters it does not ultimately guarantee my employment as it is just easier for them to hire me and ultimately it still down to them whether or not want to sponsor me a Tier 2 visa.  Mind share your thoughts?

Some one told me before it's not easy as well during the Labour time where Work Permit and PSW still available before get abolished by the Tory government, but still, effort has to be made but it is easier than now.

Yes I am based in London currently, but still despite being at the capital the HR arent that helpful and job market here is very very very competitive...what about you two?
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I'm a little bit confused. You mentioned that you are now working in the banking industry. Did you mean in Malaysia or London? London is extremely competitive. For every job opening, there are many qualified applicants.

Personally, I don't think masters will help. Labour time was easier as there is Tier 1 General and Tier 1 Post Study Work visa which is now unavailable. Also over the years UK attracted so many migrants from both EU and outside of EU that talent is now so readily available locally that most employers will hesitate to sponsor someone, unless that person has something special.

I was a bit lucky because one of my ex-manager was a British and invited me to work for him. I am not a fresh graduate but have been working in the industry for almost 10 years before moving to the UK, so it was not too difficult to justify that they need an expertise that cannot be sourced locally to pass the labour market test. You can see in both my case and liew_jls there is an element of "connection" and an element of "luck".

Btw @liew_jls congrats on your ILR! I still need to suffer for 2 more years sad.gif. I also can't easily move jobs because I need sponsorship if I switch jobs. So I'm stuck, but at least I am grateful I still have a job.
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post Oct 25 2017, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 25 2017, 04:15 AM)
Just found this thread...I'm in the UK for about 8 years now. From T4 to T2...
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Welcome! where are you based at? London?
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post Oct 25 2017, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 25 2017, 01:56 PM)
High Wycombe, yourself?
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I'm based in North West London. Been around for just 3 years in the UK
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post Oct 26 2017, 05:00 AM

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QUOTE(nivota @ Oct 25 2017, 04:24 PM)
Colindale? They just opened a new foodhall and a Loon Fung supermarket there...should check it out!
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I'm based at Northwood, but might pay a visit there wink.gif


QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 25 2017, 11:48 PM)
Haha I guess we are both waiting for 2019 ilr... mine is on September
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Mine is in October 2019, but I'm starting to study for the Life in the UK Test. A lot of ground to cover
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post Oct 26 2017, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 26 2017, 02:55 PM)
Cool, so what are you doing here then? Software developer?
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yes. got transferred by my company over here. how about you? managed to get a job after graduating here? maybe you can share some tips with the TS
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post Oct 27 2017, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 26 2017, 06:53 PM)
The transfer is much harder than T4 to T2 because you need to go through the RMLT.

Wow, you must be godlike in coding skills then. What sector are you in? I'm major in cloud BI analytics, focusing in AWS and Qlik
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I'm in the telcommunications field. Haha, very very far away from godlike coding skills. I was just extremely lucky I slipped through wink.gif

QUOTE(nivota @ Oct 26 2017, 09:10 PM)
T4 to T2 dont need to go through RMLT, but all other category does, T4 Student Visa is the only exempted category from doing RMLT.

Not sure if I'm right but it seems like there are a lot of employers does not understand how the immigration law operates in UK, a lot of them just based on a general perception and hearsay from lawyers and consultants telling them that hiring a foreigner is hard, causing their reluctance...

Where there is a will there will be a way, perhaps all I need is meeting the right person and able to explain and convince them to bring me in...
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Hi Nivota, I think the rules are a bit more complicated than that. If I am not mistaken the T4 to T2 RLMT exemption can be applied only if the candidate completes the course entirely in the UK or at least 1 year in the UK for PhD graduates. Which means people doing 2+1 or 1+2 or any of those sort of course are not exempted from RLMT.

So if you don't need to have the RLMT done, that's 1 less hurdle for you, but you need to be clear to the people that you talk to that although you need sponsorship, an RLMT is NOT required which is going to sound different from "I need a sponsorship".


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post Nov 13 2017, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(liew_jls @ Oct 28 2017, 04:08 AM)
The live in uk test is just like sejearah and pengajian am (if you took form 6 before). Practice all the demo test online, i think the questions are more the less the same. Mostly cover the common sense. Malaysian usually will pass. Hahaha..

I luckily booked and took the test 1 year-ish before i applied for the ILR. Because book the test took me ages (nightmare!) then i heard many years ago, the living in UK test book were only 50-60 pages and my times were about  140 pages. How many pages they are in now by the way?

Oh, I think now the the test will be tricky to book nowadays because the Brexit and EU ppl will need to take this test as well.

I found keep on doing the test online, it did help me a lot during the test. You guys can try it. smile.gif

Good luck.
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Just passed my life in the uk test. The demo test online helped a lot. The book is around 160 pages now.

How did you fulfill the English language requirement? Did you graduate from a UK university or did you take an english language test?
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post Jul 22 2020, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(ChasingLondon @ Jun 22 2020, 02:50 AM)
Hi Phillip! Just wondering what kind of industry/role that landed you a job in London?

I’m still actively looking for a job in the U.K. but luck is not on my side :-(
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how did your job hunt go? any luck?
do you have any working rights in the UK?
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post Jul 22 2020, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Philip Morris @ Jun 22 2020, 01:51 PM)
I'm currently in tech/cloud computing. Not sure if it helped but I did my degree in the UK as well, so maybe it is easier for me.
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how's your plans going? are you already in London and is it permanent or temporary?
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post Jun 11 2022, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(pisangkakimasak @ Apr 10 2022, 07:48 AM)
Hi guys - wondering if anyone that had migrated to UK recently can help me with this.

I landed a job in the UK recently. I plan to bring my family (3 dependents) along. My Visa will be paid by the employer, but for dependents, I have to pay for myself. May I know which is cheaper for Visa application purposes?

1. I went to settle there first and my dependents join me after?
2. We all went for visa processing together?

Tried reading through the gov.uk website and it seems that option #1 is cheaper. Just wondering if anyone can give insight.
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I think option 2 is cheaper, if you are aiming for ILR after 5 years.
The problem with option 1 is that after 5 years, you qualify for ILR but your dependents don't.
So if your dependents applied say 6 months later after you, you need to extend their visa first until they reach the 5 year mark

Unless the rules have changed, your dependants visa expires when your visa expires, and they don't automatically get ILR when you do.
So you need to consider that.

You may want to check https://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-skilled-worker-visas/
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post Jul 2 2022, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(vnlgnci1 @ Jun 30 2022, 09:50 AM)
I'm a freelancer, I plan to stay in UK for long term, 6 months is long enough but I plan to stay for a few years, which visa should I apply? do I pay tax the high rate tax to UK gov too? I have a company in hong kong.
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If not longer than 6 months, just a tourist visa is sufficient. If longer than that, the question is which visa are you eligible to apply for? You can check yourself at:
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa

There's no visa for people who owns company overseas, even the Tier 1 Investor visa route has closed this year. Skilled worker visa is probably the easiest, but is dependent on having an eligible employer to sponsor you.
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QUOTE(Shinka @ Aug 31 2022, 10:26 PM)
Hey all, a question. My brother is currently living and working in the UK and is married to a Malaysian woman, both of them have obtained ILR/PR in the UK (more than 5 years), and may obtain citizenship. My brother does not own a company and is working for a British employer.

Is there any way I can leverage on his citizenship/ILR to migrate to the UK? I am a professional myself, but I find that it is extremely difficult to find a job in the legal sector in the UK, as firms have a huge local pool of talent to choose from. I am still very determined to move to the UK, any ideas or suggestions? Thanks all!
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Hi, there is no route for siblings to migrate even if your brother has ILR/citizenship. The most practical route is to get a job in UK with a company that can sponsor a visa. Either that or the education route. Those are the 2 most common route.

Ultimately if you want to move to UK, you would still need a job to support yourself.

You can use this link to check for available types of visa:
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa
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post Mar 10 2023, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Mar 7 2023, 05:18 PM)
Currently working in malaysia as tech role (Cloud) for 6+ years
I keep on applying job in UK, right now i am using LinkedIn

Do you have any other recommendation?
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I'm in cloud too. LinkedIn , Indeed.

What's your visa status in UK? Do you have need sponsorship?
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post Mar 15 2023, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(myroy @ Mar 15 2023, 01:52 PM)
Yes I need sponsorship

Most of the job position that i applied straight away rejecting me after knew i need a visa
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Your best shot is applying for the large companies like Amazon on their website.

They do their interviews online, and they will sponsor your visa if you are successful

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