Received their email too...

This post has been edited by AdelynFong: May 16 2020, 10:33 PM

These mainland indian recruiters keep sending me job opportunities that is not related to my field. Are they too dumb to read on my current role?

Thanks for bumping this thread, will not entertain these spammers.

Seriously? Such a huge difference there.

1. Which company will pay 70% higher than the market rate to hire a person?
2. Who will work for a company if the salary only 30% of the market rate?

I used to get spammed by their job offers during my jobless period some years back. Used to open them and read them carefully. After that, they start getting really catty with their hiring approach. They will either call you up themselves to try to get you to join them or get a headhunter company to try to get you onboard.

Had to change my number after that because blocking them simply does not cut it. They will simply get a new number and call you instead. Fucking trash company with trashy staffs.

Actually this is normal for so called service companies

* worker negotiates with service company
* service company negotiates with multinational/hiring company

Since both transactions are independent, there is zero transparency between the worker and the eventual company he/she works for.
Imagine if the likes of Nityo or Virtual Calibre calls you and offers you a contract job as say a Windows specialist for RM10k per month but they charge between RM1-2k daily rates to the hiring companies.

How do I know this? I've had direct reports working for Nityo telling me their stories. I've also run/approved tenders at the hiring company level and compared the prices.

Why do these things happen? A service contract is much easier to approve at the budget level because it's seen as a service charge/opex for example 5 call center operators with finance background. The alternative is a direct contract hire where I specify a person by name, not just by role but this usually requires HR approval in the past few companies I've worked for. We argued based on how unfair the practice is and how wasteful it is at the company level, but in the end very little was done because HR wanted to control hiring but departments wanted the speed and agility.

What I don't like about the environment in Malaysia and Nityo specifically is how little transparency there is overall as mentioned above. When I lived in Australia, I could ask the recruiter what profit margin they were taking and I would get a straight answer.

This post has been edited by tishaban: May 19 2020, 04:57 PM

I can say the same for Indeed job portal tbh. I don't think these people really understand their job scopes as talent acquisition person or HR.

This company is quite persistent. They keep spamming me with different phone numbers each time i block them.

And it can get even more ridiculous than that. I've seen corporations arranged in such a way that it resembles a human centipede.

Where companies like Nityo will outsource you to another outsourcing company (e.g. Accenture), and then that outsourcing company will outsouce you again to their client. With each middleman taking a chunk of what the client paid.

I wouldn't be surprised if the client paid manager-level salary when the person who got hired only received a salary that's barely better than fresh grads.

This post has been edited by NowLat.yet: May 20 2020, 12:59 PM

Yes they are very persistent!

Super dodgy company

This is true. The rate is about 3x from what I heard from Indian national colleagues. I left UxT Glxbxl after 1 year and managed to secure a direct job with MNC company. Feel so lucky I did.

To those all jobseekers out there, please screen the company thoroughly before you tender and accept the offer. Stay away from these service/outsourcing companies no matter how desperate you are.

This post has been edited by Wolger: Oct 20 2020, 02:14 PM

their balls now sibeh big lo. got call and as usual i gave my polite standard reject reply but before i finish sentence already terminate connection. happened twice already lel.
number always start with 03-92129546 etc

Last time their tele-interview me after they see my CV in Monster.com, I didn't go coz sounds dodgy after some online checks.

I have also received a call from them before for a Japanese speaking help desk position in cyberjaya (one of their agents even wanted to add me on LinkedIn, which I ignored)

Turned down the offer because of location (too far) and salary was kind of low.

Never mind

This post has been edited by Amideva: Nov 3 2020, 12:25 AM

Received a very good offer by a well-established company that I will be working for but did not disclose the agency name until almost confirm. So I found out that the payroll will be handled by Nityo. This is after second interview.

Really difficult decision. Contract role and dodgy contractor but really good salary raise.

This post has been edited by Voxe: Jan 14 2021, 07:30 PM

I was invited for an intetview with their client, but never knew that my payroll will be under them??? Then when o tender resignation who should i tender to?? Directly to the client or to them?????? Shounds fishy.

So did you go for it?

sounds fishy