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post Aug 22 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 22 2013, 10:09 AM)
but oh so worth the asking price. nod.gif
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That's true... i dont feel the need to go to the cinemas anymore...

jimat tol
jimat minyak
jimat parking
jimat tenaga
can avoid annoyances from others
can pause the movie if want to go to the toilet laugh.gif

I dont mind watching the movies 2-3 months late after the cinema released tongue.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 22 2013, 11:25 AM)
one of those things where if you haven't tried it, you don't know what you're missing.
But once you've tried it, it's very hard to go back.
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That was 6 years ago when I leaped into the HD wonders (PS3 + Full HD TV + HD audio receiver)... every year up until now, there is always something i need to upgrade tongue.gif

QUOTE(jieson77 @ Aug 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
altec lansing speaker stand  rclxms.gif
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what model? any picture? whats your verdict? thumbup.gif
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post Aug 23 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 22 2013, 02:21 PM)
Pretty good choice. What speakers are you using now?
I'm still waiting to get a Pioneer PK52-FS, but with a different sub maybe.

As for 4k, I think in 3 years 4k will be mainstream judging at how quickly 4k prices are dropping. 1080p TVs didn't even drop like this when it started to go mainstream. laugh.gif
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Im using PSB Speakers for front (tower), centre and surround (bookshelf).
Wharfedale for surround back (bookshelf) and subwoofer.

Any suggestion for subwoofer?... i've been eying for the SVS PB-1000 from HTkaki... but maybe only can afford it next year...maybe sweat.gif
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QUOTE(uncle08 @ Aug 22 2013, 04:40 PM)
Yes. I am using it for my PS3 game play together with Samsung 32" LED TV. Previously was just using cheap Altec Lansing speaker...Now can use optical cable to have clearer sound. So excited...
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That's cool thumbup.gif

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post Aug 23 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(rayz85 @ Aug 23 2013, 10:44 AM)
Current setup using Bowers & Wilkins Panorama 2 with ASW608 subwoofer. Does the job
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Whoa... thats really high-end stuff thumbup.gif
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post Aug 24 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 23 2013, 08:04 PM)
The SVS PB-1000 is really not half bad for a mid-end sub really. Good choice if you pick it up.

Extends so deep on the bass that many subs at this price range cannot reach, powerful enough and distortion is minimal. If I need to find fault, it is that the PB-1000 rolls off a little too quickly by the time it hits the mid bass frequencies. Not a huge issue as I'm being picky here and since the price of the sub is about RM2.5k (maybe less?), then yeah... it's a solid little sub.

A cheaper alternative is a Swans Hivi H10 sub, about RM1.8k I think. It isn't as tight sounding as the PB-1000 but on all other points, it matches up very well.

Both are great though at this price, certainly worth paying for the PB-1000 but do try and go listen to the H10 as well if possible.
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Where do you auditioned these subs? I hope can compare both side-by-side.
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Aug 24 2013, 06:12 PM)
audio and video addicts is really not cheap hobby as i spend 30k (From last 2 year till now) just for both this hobby lol but worth it...
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30K?! shocking.gif what equipment have you bought? care to share? nod.gif

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 24 2013, 09:15 PM)
Not sure where to take a listen on the PVS in Malaysia as I auditioned them in Singapore.
But for the Swans H10, you can go to CyntrixTech at Puchong. They have a showroom there, audio room I mean. laugh.gif
Couldn't agree more... sweat.gif
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Ok, thanks.

QUOTE(jellybean-fish @ Aug 25 2013, 03:28 PM)
does here include headphones as well?

i don't have much money/space to buy amplifier or standing speaker as im playing in my bedroom.
my bedroom is small and only enuf space for a table fan, 1 closet and short cabinet.

So headphone is my only option.
Beside sony bluetooth headphone(1st gen) which im using, any recommend headphone ?

like razor kraken, steel series, or audio technica MTH series
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Anything related to audio equipment are welcome to this thread.

Btw, headphone is better if you're playing games or watching movies by your own.

QUOTE(whuffy_aniki @ Aug 25 2013, 05:09 PM)
im using phillips HTS5593/98 for my xbox360 n ps3,so far im satisfied,its not like its high end audio device,but for the price 1.4k its good enough for me

specs:
http://www.philips.com.my/c/home-theater-s...=specifications
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Thats great thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 26 2013, 12:44 PM)
I'm really tempted by turtle beach headsets.
wireless with mic and bluetooth sounds really good.

but been hearing alot of issues with their build quality doh.gif  doh.gif
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Zal, what do you expect when your acidic ear wax rubbing the plastic parts? sure reput tongue.gif

QUOTE(squall_12 @ Aug 26 2013, 01:15 PM)
over the year keep upgrading my speaker and finally this year spend 10k just for projector setup so that cause me quite a lot but really like it as watch movie on projector is feel damn awesome like in cinema also upgrade from my psb speaker to paradigm signature speaker and mine old svs pc12-nsd subwoofer to the current rythmik fv15hp subwoofer which cost mostly 20k from this upgrade....all in all is worth as i very much enjoy gaming and movie on my currently setup. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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What brand of the projector? ...and what AV receiver u're using?


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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 26 2013, 02:32 PM)
some within 6 months, one of the ear cups stop working doh.gif
some wireless transmission problem(though the 5ghz works fine for most)

scary purchase if cant even last 6 damn months sweat.gif  doh.gif
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How long is the warranty covers?

QUOTE(squall_12 @ Aug 26 2013, 02:39 PM)
acer h9500bd (Full hd and 3d projector) using denon 3011 av receiver  thumbup.gif
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I also interested in projector, but my theatre room is too bright because of the large windows sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Aug 26 2013, 02:48 PM)
dunno.
but got warranty also such a hassle to send back sleep.gif

my Nexus 7 kaput, warranty still valid but yet need to go to KL to repair also i got no time to go
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like that got warranty also no use laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uncle08 @ Aug 26 2013, 02:53 PM)
You are right. It is cool. However, the left and right speakers only 15W + 15W and the subwoofer is 30W. Total is 60W...considered cool? I don' think so...  hmm.gif
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The really cool part is, you got it for free... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 26 2013, 06:24 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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I'm avoiding gaming headsets because of i'm not always playing games or watching movies alone... and i'm always felt irritated at my ears even using it for 15 minutes (maybe i got huge pair of ears tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 29 2013, 02:57 PM)
So on a slightly different topic, I've been dabbling with soundbars lately to see if they've finally reached a level where it is actually decent.

To my surprise, yes... but still sort of skewed from the pricing standpoint.

My top picks so far this year:

- LG NB4530a
- Samsung HW-751
- Philips Fidelio HTL9100
- Sony HT-CT260

Honestly, price-performance king among the 4 here is the LG NB4530. Harvey Norman currently sells it for RM1.2k (while some private electrical stores probably sells it for less than RM1k).

I'm still testing out the NB4530 though, so no concrete conclusions yet but wow... for the price (at least in Malaysia), I've been really impressed thus far. Despite it looking so slim, the NB4530 doesn't sound tiny and boxy at all up until the 80% near its maximum volume.
I was totally expecting the NB4530 to be another soundbar that only sells itself on the looks, focuses too much on the high frequencies and packing gimmicky features.

The sub isn't too bad either, although it only goes down to 50hz at its lowest range (expected of this price range), it's been mostly good enough as this is where plenty of lows hit now a days. There's very little clouding over into the mid-range which is always a plus.

Still playing around with the NB4530 though, including the fact that I need to mount it higher up the way (above TV) to increase its soundstage.

But yeah my point is, I think soundbars has came to a point where it can actually be a decent substitute for 2.1 tower setups. Now I just hope that these manufacturers don't start to cheap out on next year's models.
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How do you test it? your friend is a shop owner? ...or you're yourself a shop owner?
thats pretty cool that you have a privilege to auditioned all the above equipments thumbup.gif

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That's some cool minimalist design... blush.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 29 2013, 03:38 PM)
LG sent me a test unit. smile.gif

One issue, bluetooth seems to be a bit finnicky though. Songs keep cutting out from my phone even if I'm only just barely 7 feet away.
Seems to be wi-fi interference though I'm not exactly sure yet if it's a problem with the soundbar it self or what.

Yeah I love the minimalist design! That brushed aluminium is soooo sexy.

The Samsung HW-751 and Philips HTL9100 I didn't get to test it out extensively yet. I heard them briefly only and the conditions weren't that optimal, so I hope some day soon I get to put them in a proper test scenario.
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What is your occupation? Why/How you got a test unit? I also want! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Aug 29 2013, 07:16 PM)
Freelance journalist mah. tongue.gif

But in all seriousness, the more I listen to the NB4530, the more it impresses. Will probably watch Pain & Gain tonight to see how it fares.
Now I just need to figure out why its bluetooth isn't working the way it should be.
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Journalist for tech stuff? Thats my dream job man drool.gif

QUOTE(jellybean-fish @ Aug 29 2013, 07:30 PM)
well im fine without mic, i hardly talk in the game, only when needed, bluetooth mic is ok.

Now time to save some money get the best/affordable and wait for PS4  thumbup.gif

Care to show us yur TV setup?
currently my new condo still building, going to avoid putting a TV in a living, i going to setup a game/hobby room (sharing with my wife hobby stuff also sweat.gif )
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What do you had in mind? A 7.1 setup or a soundbar or still wanted to use headset?
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Now there is another HDMI slot to use, VITA TV tongue.gif


QUOTE(jellybean-fish @ Sep 3 2013, 08:37 AM)
i have mind for 5.1 setup for my future home, now still on researching , currently looking for the DSS earforce for my headset
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Make sure you get a system that has more than 5 HDMI inputs.

QUOTE(shakku @ Sep 3 2013, 03:02 PM)
For me, the cheapest setup for surround 5.1 (for budget constraint) is to get cheap DVD player with HDMI ARC feature.

PS3 --> TV (HDMI ARC) <--> DVD player (HDMI ARC) .

But have to live with cables. Wireless rear speaker available for high end bluray players .

*ARC = Audio Return Channel.
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About the rear speakers cable, I just place it under the carpet and the corners between the floor and the wall. If you done it right, the cables is invisible biggrin.gif
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Mark Cerny confirmed in an interview that PlayStation 4 uses hardware expressly dedicated to audio tasks. What are the capabilities of this hardware? What is Sony telling to developers about it?

Here we have some material from Sony’s presentations where you can learn more about audio custom hardware in PS4. This dedicated hardware will manage basic tasks, for game or system, relying on the CPU or GPU for advanced tasks.

Another important point is that this audio block is not programmable by developers directly, they could only access it via OS.

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I dunno what all the technical mumbo-jumbo they were saying, but i hope at least it is slightly better than PS3's audio processor laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2013, 11:42 AM)
Oh no, it isn't about the audio quality entirely. Rather how audio is being processed.
The PS3 reserved an entire SPU solely for audio processing and that was actually rather expensive late in most game developments. Also because audio was handled through a very basic visor on the PS3, it was hard to optimize performance as well without handling the entire process through a game engine, further complicating matters.

So now, on the PS4 there is a straight up custom audio block that allows all audio to be done on the CPU or GPGPU without compromising performance. The support for up to 200+ audio streams simultaneously is nothing new as the Xbox One's "up to" 512 streams trounces this. Whether or not we can hear such detail, well that depends from one person to the next individually but the support is there.

I see it as a good thing because consoles has been almost on a dead stop on audio since the PS2 days, which is ridiculous. A reason why so many games these days take the easy route out by pre-baking multi channel audio. doh.gif
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From the slide that I shared above, what does it mean by "Not programmable by game teams"?... is this good?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2013, 01:30 PM)
Good and bad I presume.
What I do know is that since the ACP isn't programmable directly, this means that devs will have to use the OS to access it. This does streamline a lot of stuff, gone are the days where you have to set a side 3 or 4 audio engineers just to tackle the audio issues on one part of the console.

Bad because it might lead to some limitations on the devs part if they want to do something unique, like say... implementing HRTF on a console perhaps? Something that hasn't really been done before on a console. Since the ACP is locked to the OS and I don't think devs has much access to change anything within the OS, might be a limitation.

I'm not exactly sure however, need more fine print on this.
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Funny how AMD just announced their new line of graphics cards which has their new "TrueAudio" technology that is programmable. Though the slides that was presented basically means it is just a fancy word for AMD's version of a DSP, just done on a GPU instead of on a soundcard.

Sounds like a reverse on the PS4.
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Well I went over a bit more and I think the PS4 has a disadvantage in audio now in comparison to the Xbone. The reason being that the PS4's ACP doesn't have the ability to enable any sort of DSP on its own on a hardware level.
It has to be done through game code, as in through a game engine. Multichannel audio will still be simulated on a software level and there won't be HRTF on the PS4.

The Xbone on the other hand has hardware audio support, quite similar to AMD's new TrueAudio technology.

For many people, this wouldn't be an issue but I think for those who likes to play in surround sound will feel somewhat miff'd about this.... because I am.
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Googling HRTF hmm.gif ... A head-related transfer function (HRTF) is a response that characterizes how an ear receives a sound from a point in space; a pair of HRTFs for two ears can be used to synthesize a binaural sound that seems to come from a particular point in space. tongue.gif

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2013, 01:30 PM)
For many people, this wouldn't be an issue but I think for those who likes to play in surround sound will feel somewhat miff'd about this.... because I am.
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...surround sound is a must for me sweat.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2013, 03:29 PM)
Well, the easiest way to explain is to listen to it:

Put on your headphones, disable any effects (virtual surround sound and EQs), then listen.
This is HRTF in 7.1, imagine the possibilities of over 24 channels all simulated on a 5.1 speaker setup. You'll be able to hear audio not only from front and back, but also simulated on the ceiling (like Dolby Atmos) and the floor.
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Thats quite amazing... even my old sennheiser earphone can simulate some kind of surround effects thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 27 2013, 02:46 AM)
That's SRP, of course it is much higher. The M50 can be had for RM550+ the last time I checked.
Though I don't think getting the M50 is a good idea if closed headphones are what you are looking for. The Creative Aurvana Live! is which goes for about RM400 (maybe even less, check garage sale) is a much better deal with similar extension on the bass, still holding mids in detail and doesn't have the rather harsh and bright highs that the M50 has.

Although the M50 has better imaging, but can be a little bit too analytical at times. Taking the fun out of actually enjoying games. It's not as if the CAL! isn't good in positional accuracy either, but just not at the level of the M50 for a closed headphone.

I always found the M50 to be very uncomfortable too, the clamping pressure on them is just... really bad. This is coming from someone who has quite a small head and if I can't take the clamping pressure, I don't think anyone with a medium size or bigger head will be happy.
There are some mods where you can pre-stretch the bands for 48 hours or more, but even then... the comfort is really only passable. The CAL! doesn't have much of a comfort issue and its pleather pads are one of the best I've ever put over my ears.

So if closed headphones under RM500 - Creative Aurvana Live!
As a bonus, the CAL! doesn't need much amping to get to its potential either. The DSS you got is good enough, plays well with Dolby Headphones too!
Though understand the mids on the CAL! isn't as intimate as your Koss Portapro, but you'll get more bass if that's what you're looking for.
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I dunno that Creative making a good headphone nowadays... last time (10-12 years ago tongue.gif ) i only know that creative only make a good soundcards but a cap ayam headphones... been long time stopped playing PC games laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 27 2013, 02:07 PM)
Creative didn't even make the Aurvana Live!, just marketed it.
The drivers were made by Fostex. Many regards the CAL! as a baby Denon D2000 because of how similar they sound, without costing as much.
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LOL... thats what I thought... tongue.gif

QUOTE(jellybean-fish @ Oct 1 2013, 03:14 PM)
Finance Ministry said have to wait till X-mas , dunno i can get the CAL or "other" stuff
i guess time to sell my PS3 headset.

any game u recommend to try it out to test the DSS?
i got KZ3, Nino kuni, Borderland2, Black ops 2 and other.
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U must try the Resistance series... they got one of the earliest and the best 7.1 surround sound experiences for the PS3 games thumbup.gif

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